Minardi were utter shite but we loved them...I didn't. Sorry to burst the Minardi bubble, but what was so awesome about them? Sitting at the back forever, struggling to make the race, and then struggling to finish. Meanwhile teams like Jordan came in from nothing and made it to race winners before the economic situation in F1 killed off private teams. Sorry, didn't love Minardi for the same reason I didn't love Forti. Generic back of the grid team. Woo.
Honda F1 mattered to alot of people, maybe not you, but certainly to many people, and alot more than you proberly think. Just as much as Ferrari, Mercedes and BMW. Woah hold up. Honda mattered to some people, but they also didn't matter to some people. To suggest Honda matter as much as Ferrari is utterly *hilarious*.
Do not base ones popularity on performance over one season or just generally performance. I didn't talk about popularity. You did.
To you Honda did not mean anything, like others, but to me RedBull dont really provide much significance, again an opinion shared by not only me. Red Bull doesn't bring much to the sport either at the moment. Maybe to motorsport as a whole, given the effort put into the young driver program, there NASCAR efforts, and how involved they have been from the early days of the company. But to F1? meh, not really. If Red Bull was replaced by another team I probably wouldn't care much. Maybe a little less personality, but thats the biggest loss.
Dave for someone of such a respected opinion your argument in that post was very poor and for you very childish and not well thought out. Normally you post something worth reading and generally worthwhile and useful. However what you posted was simply an opinion not a fact nor observation and uttlery usless to the discussion. First of all - I am not the one that just said Honda matters as much as Ferrari. So if your going to call something childish and not well thought out, look in a mirror son, because that is AMAZING.
Secondly, hold onto that "your opinion is not a fact" thought for just one minute.
The fact is Honda WILL be missed and ARE being missed atm. Bernie himself has proved that. Oh wait a second. You are posting an OPINION, as a FACT? Well bugger me sideways, didn't you just cover that and tell me not to do that? What proof do you have that they will be missed? Or is this your OPINION?
Secondly, your skills of reading fail you. At no point did I actually posted my thoughts as fact. And just to hammer home the point, I shall quote it and bold it for you.
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I was thinking that, and realised...would it be?
> Is losing Honda going to actually make a
> difference to the race itself? Ignoring the
> economic impacts and the threats of Toyota and
> Renault going for now.
But I don't think the races
> would be any better or worse without Honda. All
> they did was potter around the back all year, and
> every so often provide a bit of a laugh by being
> complete morons in only a way Honda could ever do.
> If they didn't tell us they were leaving, and we
> went to Albert Park, would anyone notice they are
> gone? The paddock may even be a happier place
> since nobody would have to look at Nick Frys smug
> f**king puss.
Go on, quote me where I posted fact, rather than my opnion. Oh, you can't? Might want to post something a bit more" thought out" next time eh? Or is it just because I attacked Honda you had to come in running guns blazing, ignoring what I posted, hoping I wouldn't notice? I never posted nobody would miss Honda. I asked if anyone would, with my opinion being I wouldn't.
Secondly - Bernie doesn't give a f**k if Honda is gone. Bernie cares that 2 cars are gone, not Honda. It'd be the same if we list any other team, with the exception of Ferrari, which would probably hurt F1 more, since they have much more history than the others.
In this case personal opinion means jack and is about as useful as GuiYou can post your opinion as fact, but when someone else posts an opinion it is childish and not thought out?
No offense Chet, but I know your going to run to the report post button, but if you don't bother reading what I posted and then attack me for it, you should be damned sure you'll get it blown back in your face. I posted my opinion, if you can't handle that, that is your problem. That's all you'll hear from me on the topic.
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