2009 car launches thread

Another balanced, unbiased comment from Bruninho, the bastion of reasoned forum F1 analysis.

Good thing is if it's true, Senna will walk away with the GP2 title by the 7th round

Nope. Correction. "and he would shine." But Briatore would find a way to stop him from doing that, because Alonso is his baby.

You of all people have no right to talk about anyone getting preferential treatment. The driver you have spent your time bumming has only gotten to F1 through teams funded solely for the uses of Piquet by his father. Of all f1 drivers in history, Piquet has perhaps been the one with the silver spoon feeding him the most.

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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Nope. Correction. "and he would shine." But
> Briatore would find a way to stop him from doing
> that, because Alonso is his baby.
>
> You of all people have no right to talk about
> anyone getting preferential treatment. The driver
> you have spent your time bumming has only gotten
> to F1 through teams funded solely for the uses of
> Piquet by his father. Of all f1 drivers in
> history, Piquet has perhaps been the one with the
> silver spoon feeding him the most.

Oi! And Lewis Hamilton didn't?

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Lewis did not have his father BUY teams then race for them.

How many teams has Nelson Jnr drove for which were not invested into by his father?

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

Bruninho schreef:
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> DaveEllis Wrote:
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> > Nope. Correction. "and he would shine." But
> > Briatore would find a way to stop him from
> doing
> > that, because Alonso is his baby.
> >
> > You of all people have no right to talk about
> > anyone getting preferential treatment. The
> driver
> > you have spent your time bumming has only
> gotten
> > to F1 through teams funded solely for the uses
> of
> > Piquet by his father. Of all f1 drivers in
> > history, Piquet has perhaps been the one with
> the
> > silver spoon feeding him the most.
>
> Oi! And Lewis Hamilton didn't?

And nobody said that he wasn't. Funnily, you also support Hamilton. So that makes Daves point even more valid: you cannot complain about preferential treatments.

1. I dont support Hamilton. I accept that hes good and I just support everyone that is going against the "brazilian" that drives the Ferrari. Doesnt mean necessarily that I am a Hamilton fan.

I wasnt a Mika Hakkinen fan, yet i supported him against the ferrari cheater in the late 90's. Never classified Mika has one of my favorites anyway.

2. Yes chet Hammy's father didnt had to pay for his career. RON DENNIS DID though. Hamilton didnt had to race for money to fund his career too, it just changed the source of the money.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2009 05:37PM by Bruninho.

Another thing you are conveniently dismissing Bruninho... is that you often claimed that Piquet didn't do particularly well in his debut year because he lacked testing.

When in actual fact he had ample testing. As I'd have pointed out. He had between 2-3 tests with BMW Williams, he had a test with BAR Honda, and he was official test driver at Renault for a season before his debut, which saw him make his first test for the team at Silverstone September 2006, same as Hamilton, and he was quickest on his first two days! Bruno Senna was not quickest, not even slightly.

So compared with comprehensive winter test seasons for Piquet + his tryouts for Williams and BAR, Senna would have had about 1 and a half days, if he is lucky. Yet somehow you think the would pwn all.

That is so delusional it's almost funny.

J i m Wrote:
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> Another thing you are conveniently dismissing
> Bruninho... is that you often claimed that Piquet
> didn't do particularly well in his debut year
> because he lacked testing.
>
> When in actual fact he had ample testing.

He did not had ample testing, how many times I have to say that Hamilton tested more than him. I wasnt saying that just 1 test Bruno was ready to go. I was expecting more tests but Honda took the plug out of F1 before that.

> As I'd have pointed out. He had between 2-3 tests with
> BMW Williams, he had a test with BAR Honda, and he
> was official test driver at Renault for a season
> before his debut, which saw him make his first
> test for the team at Silverstone September 2006,
> same as Hamilton, and he was quickest on his first
> two days! Bruno Senna was not quickest, not even
> slightly.
>

So? It was his first day. Give him a proper winter testing season with a 2009 car and he'd kick their asses at Melbourne.

> So compared with comprehensive winter test seasons
> for Piquet + his tryouts for Williams and BAR,
> Senna would have had about 1 and a half days, if
> he is lucky. Yet somehow you think the would pwn
> all.
>
> That is so delusional it's almost funny.

delusional and almost funny is you thinking that I said that with just 1 day of testing he was ready to pwn them all. I said "if he was that good with just 1 day of testing, imagine how he will be after more testing."

Is it hard to understand? ffs...

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Bruninho schreef:
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> 1. I dont support Hamilton. I accept that hes good
> and I just support everyone that is going against
> the "brazilian" that drives the Ferrari. Doesnt
> mean necessarily that I am a Hamilton fan.

Hamilton drives against Massa. So you support him. But you also don't support Hamilton. You need to make a choice, man!

> I wasnt a Mika Hakkinen fan, yet i supported him
> against the ferrari cheater in the late 90's.
> Never classified Mika has one of my favorites
> anyway.

Nickv schreef:
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> And nobody said that he wasn't. Funnily, you also
> support Hamilton.


I never said you are a fan. I said you support Hamilton.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2009 05:54PM by Nickv.

lol

Kimi, so, Massa Fernando Sebastian is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?

Nickv Wrote:
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> Nickv schreef:
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> > And nobody said that he wasn't. Funnily, you
> also
> > support Hamilton.
>
> Bruninho schreef:
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> > 1. I dont support Hamilton. I accept that hes
> good
> > and I just support everyone that is going
> against
> > the "brazilian" that drives the Ferrari. Doesnt
> > mean necessarily that I am a Hamilton fan.
>
> Hamilton drives against Massa. So you support him.
> But you also don't support Hamilton. You need to
> make a choice, man!
>
> > I wasnt a Mika Hakkinen fan, yet i supported
> him
> > against the ferrari cheater in the late 90's.
> > Never classified Mika has one of my favorites
> > anyway.
>
> I never said you are a fan. I said you support
> Hamilton.


I dont support Hamilton. If it was Kimi Raikkonen, Heidfeld, Alonso, Kubica, Vettel, Fisichella, Sutil or Coulthard against the Ferrari clown, obviously i would support them against him until the title is decided, then after that it ceases. obviously doesnt mean i will be supporting them again or that i will become their fan.

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Bruninho Wrote:
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> Is it hard to understand? ffs...
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Cleary! Because obviously you do not.

Bruninho schreef:
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> Nickv Wrote:
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> > Nickv schreef:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And nobody said that he wasn't. Funnily, you
> > also
> > > support Hamilton.
> >
> > Bruninho schreef:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 1. I dont support Hamilton. I accept that hes
> > good
> > > and I just support everyone that is going
> > against
> > > the "brazilian" that drives the Ferrari.
> Doesnt
> > > mean necessarily that I am a Hamilton fan.
> >
> > Hamilton drives against Massa. So you support
> him.
> > But you also don't support Hamilton. You need
> to
> > make a choice, man!
> >
> > > I wasnt a Mika Hakkinen fan, yet i supported
> > him
> > > against the ferrari cheater in the late 90's.
> > > Never classified Mika has one of my favorites
> > > anyway.
> >
> > I never said you are a fan. I said you support
> > Hamilton.
>
>
> I dont support Hamilton. If it was Kimi Raikkonen,
> Heidfeld, Alonso, Kubica, Vettel, Fisichella,
> Sutil or Coulthard against the Ferrari clown,
> obviously i would support them against him until
> the title is decided, then after that it ceases.
> obviously doesnt mean i will be supporting them
> again or that i will become their fan.

Doesn't the title fight restart every year? Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Nickv Wrote:
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> Doesn't the title fight restart every year?
> Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Correct. But not with the same characters.

The ferrari arrogant prick wont be fighting for a F1 title ever again. It was a "1999 eddie irvine" like year.

This years title is between ALO, RAI and HAM while he will be stuck to his Driver #2 role again. quite simple.

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Bruninho schreef:
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> Nickv Wrote:
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> > Doesn't the title fight restart every year?
> > Correct me if I'm wrong though.
>
> Correct. But not with the same characters.
>
> The ferrari arrogant prick wont be fighting for a
> F1 title ever again. It was a "1999 eddie irvine"
> like year.
>
> This years title is between ALO, RAI and HAM while
> he will be stuck to his Driver #2 role again.
> quite simple.


It's as quite simple as it is quite a guess.

This years title is between ALO, RAI and HAM

I´m hungry and I didn´t have lunch yet, and you put HAM... Actually, I hate you

The ferrari arrogant prick wont be fighting for a F1 title ever again. It was a "1999 eddie irvine" like year.

yer i remember 99 well michael raced for every grand prix, and was totally outclassed by eddie, senna was a mess in the gp2 silverstone round in the dry.

Bruninho Wrote:
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> I dont support Hamilton. If it was Kimi Raikkonen,
> Heidfeld, Alonso, Kubica, Vettel, Fisichella,
> Sutil or Coulthard against the Ferrari clown,
> obviously i would support them against him until
> the title is decided, then after that it ceases.
> obviously doesnt mean i will be supporting them
> again or that i will become their fan.

The only clown here is you

Bruninho Wrote:
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> DaveEllis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nope. Correction. "and he would shine." But
> > Briatore would find a way to stop him from
> doing
> > that, because Alonso is his baby.
> >
> > You of all people have no right to talk about
> > anyone getting preferential treatment. The
> driver
> > you have spent your time bumming has only
> gotten
> > to F1 through teams funded solely for the uses
> of
> > Piquet by his father. Of all f1 drivers in
> > history, Piquet has perhaps been the one with
> the
> > silver spoon feeding him the most.
>
> Oi! And Lewis Hamilton didn't?

Yeah, Lewis did. But I am not the one complaining about drivers getting easy rides, you are. So next time you go off on one of your cute, uninformed pathetic rants about how Massa had it easy or Rubens Barrichello isn't a driving God, how about you look at the drivers that you waste your timing bumming before posting? Piquet has had the easiest route to F1 out of any driver in history. His dad bought and built entire teams around him for f**k sake. So don't you sit there and try and tell us Alonso gets preferential treatment whilst Piquet just needs to go crying to his daddy to get anything he wants. Quite frankly I'm surprised his dad hasn't bought Renault yet. But after they pull out of F1 from spiraling costs due to the horrific amount of repair bills due to Piquet throwing it into walls in inventive and never-before-seen ways, I am sure his Daddy will have to come to the rescue and save the day for him, just like he has done in every other series he has entered so far.

The ferrari arrogant prick wont be fighting for a F1 title ever again.

So far he has fought for more titles than Piquet Jr. Think about that next time your wanking over a JPG of him.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2009 07:52PM by DaveEllis.