Malaysian F1 Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***

but how can any expirenced f1 watcher say it was a mistake

Ferrari apparently know less about F1 than HakkF1 then!

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chet Wrote:
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> So you'd want Massa driving for your team?


No

[hypothetically speaking]

People would say that hes just there to be the No.2

He wouldnt be a threat to me nor could help my team :P

Id love to team up with Kimi, Alonso and Jenson anyway :P

[/hypothetically speaking]

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2008 10:03PM by Bruninho.

As far as Massa is concerned: the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead.

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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> but how can any expirenced f1 watcher say it was a
> mistake
>
> Ferrari apparently know less about F1 than HakkF1
> then!

lol,you still hate me man...?
what i know that is they will try to look as strong as they can,maybe they will wait tell Bahrain and make sure they are very reliable,and if so,they can announce that they figuerd out the Problem of Malaysia,the one think they don't wanna do right now is send (we are not reliable) messege to their rivels

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marcl Wrote:
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> Yes i agree with u there. I did not put them as
> top drivers though I just meant the ones that
> stand out that could win a race right now.
>
> I rate kimi very high. I think he is better than
> alonso but at the moment alonso is just being
> wasted and will be interesting seeing him bring
> the team forward just like MS did at ferrari.

I see what you mean, but you did say drivers that could win the championship, and I'm not sure if everyone in that list is ready for it this year. Not with Kimi running in a Ferrari anyway. And yeah, I also rate Kimi higher than Alonso, hehe.

Yes sorry my stupid use of words lol.

lol,you still hate me man...?

Nope. I simply addressed your post which claimed that anyone who knows anything about F1 knows the car failed. Ferrari have confirmed the car did NOT fail, which logically speaking, means you know more than them.

Massa binned it. Again. You can hear it. You can see it. Massa didn't have an answer for it. Ferrari did.

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HakkF1 schreef:
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> he one think they don't wanna
> do right now is send (we are not reliable) messege
> to their rivels


I agree. Sending out the we-have-a-crappy-driver-who-can't-drive-a-car-without-TC-message is much better.

Hmmm, I defended Massa bit a few pages back, by suggesting "what if he wins the next two races", but after this statement from Ferrari, i guess he already screwed up too much, even he does win the next two races, i guess one mistake again and he's exit. (And Vettel in).

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see the accident again,i think more than half the race had past at that moment,so the track grip is much higher than the first 15 laps,i saw ppl spin out there,but that was about 5 years ago,this days the grip of the car is much higher,and it was not a tc mistake,because as i said the engine sound is very normal,and the car spin so sudden there is no way to make a correction,unlike what all non-tc drivers do,which is making steering corrections all the time.and you are talking about a Ferrari,the car which had the best grip at that weekend,and yes sending we-have-a-crappy-driver-who-can't-drive-a-car-without-TC-message is actually much better,if Ferrari claims they have found what made Massa retire two weeks later,then my theory is right.

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The best doesn't mean it's fool proof. The most grip doesn't mean infinite grip. Massa dropped it on his own.

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HakkF1 Wrote:
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> see the accident again,i think more than half the
> race had past at that moment,so the track grip is
> much higher than the first 15 laps,i saw ppl spin
> out there,but that was about 5 years ago,this days
> the grip of the car is much higher,and it was not
> a tc mistake,because as i said the engine sound is
> very normal,and the car spin so sudden there is no
> way to make a correction,unlike what all non-tc
> drivers do,which is making steering corrections
> all the time.and you are talking about a
> Ferrari,the car which had the best grip at that
> weekend,and yes sending
> we-have-a-crappy-driver-who-can't-drive-a-car-with
> out-TC-message is actually much better,if Ferrari
> claims they have found what made Massa retire two
> weeks later,then my theory is right.


better than destroying your drivers confidence and throwing him under the wheels of a media bus?

Sim

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If Vettel goes to Ferrari, where does that leave Massa (and I suppose, Torro Rosso or whatever Stoddard is going to rename it)?

interesting comments by Dennis:

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McLaren has just gotten a few points in my book

sasjag Wrote:
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> HakkF1 Wrote:
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> > see the accident again,i think more than half
> the
> > race had past at that moment,so the track grip
> is
> > much higher than the first 15 laps,i saw ppl
> spin
> > out there,but that was about 5 years ago,this
> days
> > the grip of the car is much higher,and it was
> not
> > a tc mistake,because as i said the engine sound
> is
> > very normal,and the car spin so sudden there is
> no
> > way to make a correction,unlike what all non-tc
> > drivers do,which is making steering corrections
> > all the time.and you are talking about a
> > Ferrari,the car which had the best grip at that
> > weekend,and yes sending
> >
> we-have-a-crappy-driver-who-can't-drive-a-car-with
>
> > out-TC-message is actually much better,if
> Ferrari
> > claims they have found what made Massa retire
> two
> > weeks later,then my theory is right.
>
>
> better than destroying your drivers confidence and
> throwing him under the wheels of a media bus?


I don't see it to be logical either. Ferrari does not need to hide any reliability problem. Their reliability has been in question since the first GP in Australia. Even on the 2nd GP, one of their customer engines also failed. They also already made a statement to the media that they need to figure out and fix the engine failures.

Destroying their driver's morale is the worst they can do right now. Not just for Massa. If what HakkF1 says is true, it will also destroy Kimi's morale. Kimi will start to think that if his car fails in the next races, his team will make him falsely accountable for it, and make him look like a stupid driver.

A team would rather say that they have technical problems, 'cause there are systematic ways to fix problems of those nature. A team with a driver problem is much more difficult. There's no truly guaranteed solution for a driver problem. you can't re-program your driver's brain. Changing drivers also posses a lot of risk and variable. Like the new guy's adaptability to the car, and chemistry with the crew.

Massa simply has some numb nerves in his heavy foot.

Massa did lose it himself, after defending him a couple of times, i rewatched the footage and he really does put his foot on the throttle heavier than before...

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Of course he did. There wasn't any problems in the car at all.

that was in the dry. whats he gonna be like in the wet.

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He'll probably have to drive a lot slower and hence not do any good in the race

Not doing any good frankly would be better than hes doing so far.