*****GP4 Track editing - The new thread*****
Posted by Forgotten-Boy
ccline isn't developed up to that point, so nobody knows actually, my best guess atm is that th cars will drive through eachother without damaging eachother. As gp4 sees car 1 at sector 26 car 2 at sector 183 -> no contact. But im only 80% sure 
guys, anyone know what could be causing this?
the car is about to drive through the new sector, but suddenly the cam angle changes, and then it goes back to normal before taking back the old layout...
i haven't changed my camera settings, it's just t-cam, and i don't know what the problem is...
from tv-cam, the cars run smoothly through this new section, and i don't know if it's relevant or not, but i have computed track and cc-cars pitch and cc-cars direction.
(sorry if they are very small shots, but i didn't want to post huge ones just to show you the camera angle)
I'm against sigpics
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2005 01:50AM by Paco.
the car is about to drive through the new sector, but suddenly the cam angle changes, and then it goes back to normal before taking back the old layout...
i haven't changed my camera settings, it's just t-cam, and i don't know what the problem is...
from tv-cam, the cars run smoothly through this new section, and i don't know if it's relevant or not, but i have computed track and cc-cars pitch and cc-cars direction.
(sorry if they are very small shots, but i didn't want to post huge ones just to show you the camera angle)
I'm against sigpics
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2005 01:50AM by Paco.
Darkone55 Wrote:
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> Hi there!
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> Let's introduce myself this is my 2nd post at this
> forum.
> I'm Darkone55 as you can see, I'm from Holland,
> and I've been looking here for a long time, and
> now I have registered myself.
>
> Here's a preview of the track I'm working on:
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> Real:
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> Mine:
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Then yo must make the helmet of the stig too :p
> Anyone recognises it?
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> Hi there!
>
> Let's introduce myself this is my 2nd post at this
> forum.
> I'm Darkone55 as you can see, I'm from Holland,
> and I've been looking here for a long time, and
> now I have registered myself.
>
> Here's a preview of the track I'm working on:
>
> Real:
>
>
>
> Mine:
>
>
>
Then yo must make the helmet of the stig too :p
> Anyone recognises it?
paco THis is because you havent editted the Col file yet. if you generate a new col file this will go away.
if you generate a new col file this will go away.just like you said, it's working perfectly now
timo to go on with my to do list, but first, i have to sleep, almost 5 a.m. here :p
I'm against sigpics
timo to go on with my to do list, but first, i have to sleep, almost 5 a.m. here :p
I'm against sigpics
shutt1e Wrote:
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> and don't forget shanghai. i'll publish some
> screenshots when the new 3de will appear, now i
> have too many undesidered objects in the gp4
> file.
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waiting screenshots
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> and don't forget shanghai. i'll publish some
> screenshots when the new 3de will appear, now i
> have too many undesidered objects in the gp4
> file.
>
waiting screenshots
I forgot to tell you that I noticed an interesting thing about .bin files.
If you delete the scene in Monza having all trackXX objects and then try in game, you will notice that .bin ending sectors are disappearing like with customized .bin files.
So I do believe that some .gp4 objects are needed as "support" for .bin display.
It would need further experimentations...
If you delete the scene in Monza having all trackXX objects and then try in game, you will notice that .bin ending sectors are disappearing like with customized .bin files.
So I do believe that some .gp4 objects are needed as "support" for .bin display.
It would need further experimentations...
Laurent, i have splitted manually all the tarmac and verge sections at equal lenght as in the .bin (my old idea ) file for the shanghai track. The bin disappear has gone. just i need to have all the track sections with proper name and attributes.
the tarmac objects in .gp4 file are needed and must have the "none" class and named as TRACKXX, if some of the tarmac sections are missing (or present but named differently) the game crash somewhere.
The verge sections seems not critical but using bad class or bad names cause disapeearing of some objects at the side of the track (stands and crowds)
so better if verge sections are in the TRACK class and named as vergexx (dunno if the case is important,but i've used the same as in the original tracks)
the unk values are important when the object has the proper class and name. i still miss its meanings but for shanghai track and verge section i've used 64,8191,0,-8.
Flags objects can be removed without crashing the game as well as all REFLECT and REQUIRED class. we need to find a solution for the flash, i have a bunch of flashes in the middle of nothing :P
i still have to try the new dat features (pitch and cc-line) but it seem this version rocks.
wtf you said the save of the .gp4 was slower with the new version? it save the file at the speed of the previous version
) file for the shanghai track. The bin disappear has gone. just i need to have all the track sections with proper name and attributes.the tarmac objects in .gp4 file are needed and must have the "none" class and named as TRACKXX, if some of the tarmac sections are missing (or present but named differently) the game crash somewhere.
The verge sections seems not critical but using bad class or bad names cause disapeearing of some objects at the side of the track (stands and crowds)
so better if verge sections are in the TRACK class and named as vergexx (dunno if the case is important,but i've used the same as in the original tracks)
the unk values are important when the object has the proper class and name. i still miss its meanings but for shanghai track and verge section i've used 64,8191,0,-8.
Flags objects can be removed without crashing the game as well as all REFLECT and REQUIRED class. we need to find a solution for the flash, i have a bunch of flashes in the middle of nothing :P
i still have to try the new dat features (pitch and cc-line) but it seem this version rocks.
wtf you said the save of the .gp4 was slower with the new version? it save the file at the speed of the previous version
Great : these are good news, Shutt1e.
With all that stuff, I was really afraid many things will fail in real track-editing action...
If slicing is really the solution, then I will slice track at export in a next version.
Most of objects could be deleted but some objects are really required (you can't delete first Monza sceen without crashing the game).
I didn't mentioned it in the doc (and I should) but deleting objects absolutely does not work with Imola. I do believe this has something to do with the fact that's the only track with object lods and thus this track could have a special format slightly different than others.
Yep, first versions with new .gp4 internal code were very slow at loading tracks or even huge objects as generated .gp4 track from .dat.
I hopefully found the jam one of the latest days before the release date so times are now close to the past version one.
But many areas have not been sped up and I remind saving object is not sped up yet. It could wait next version anyway hopefully
With all that stuff, I was really afraid many things will fail in real track-editing action...
If slicing is really the solution, then I will slice track at export in a next version.
Most of objects could be deleted but some objects are really required (you can't delete first Monza sceen without crashing the game).
I didn't mentioned it in the doc (and I should) but deleting objects absolutely does not work with Imola. I do believe this has something to do with the fact that's the only track with object lods and thus this track could have a special format slightly different than others.
Yep, first versions with new .gp4 internal code were very slow at loading tracks or even huge objects as generated .gp4 track from .dat.
I hopefully found the jam one of the latest days before the release date so times are now close to the past version one.
But many areas have not been sped up and I remind saving object is not sped up yet. It could wait next version anyway hopefully
few things laurent.
I did some deleting, the memoryleak discussed earlier, it's defenitly there, i had 320mb used for 3deditor with an untextured track open.
I did this deleting to test the theory of slicing, i deleted all the trackxx objects, and used the original bin file, i couldn't see the bin, cause i was driving higher, but i had no crashes whatsoever, thats not what i hoped to find, i'll test another track later today.
Compliments on the userguide, and some new features i found in it
I did some deleting, the memoryleak discussed earlier, it's defenitly there, i had 320mb used for 3deditor with an untextured track open.
I did this deleting to test the theory of slicing, i deleted all the trackxx objects, and used the original bin file, i couldn't see the bin, cause i was driving higher, but i had no crashes whatsoever, thats not what i hoped to find, i'll test another track later today.
Compliments on the userguide, and some new features i found in it
I deleted few objects from new france and it worked very well ingame
woei, i took suzuka, everything original, deleted the trackxx parts and look what happend:
Same problem i've had 1000times with bahrain
Seems to me slicing as a solution is very plausible Lets hope it's finaly solved
Same problem i've had 1000times with bahrain
Seems to me slicing as a solution is very plausible
Lets hope it's finaly solved ok, track height now sorted, next tasks, adjust banking, add kerbs, and start with the first corner :P
you won't see too much from here, but for those who like watching screenies (like me)...
I'm against sigpics
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/06/2005 04:49PM by Paco.
you won't see too much from here, but for those who like watching screenies (like me)...
I'm against sigpics
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/06/2005 04:49PM by Paco.
that's a bit of an odd line through those couple of corners
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