*****GP4 Track editing - The new thread*****

tom have you got the suzuka pole lap? i am trying to edit casio triangle

thanks a lot for that, Tom!

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@Mini Maestro:

Nope, sorry.
If you have EDonkey or EMule: here's an ED2K link to an onboard lap with Kimi (2003 or 2004).

ed2k://|file|F1%20OnBoard%20-%20Japan%20-%20Suzuka%20-%202003%20-%20Kimi.mpg|20908036|658F9BCACBC59460C019ACA4702D362A|/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2005 02:39AM by Tom2681.

or this one...

ed2k://|file|2004-suzuka-k.raikkonen-mclaren%20mp4-19b.mpg|20908036|658F9BCACBC59460C019ACA4702D362A|/

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LOL !

It's the same one. Look at the ED2K ID.

ups!

i just looked at the file name, and they were different, so i posted, hehe!

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if you need a map of suzuka, you can always use that one :

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WaZz Wrote:
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> if you need a map of suzuka, you can always use
> that one :


has someone noticed the new chicane after the hairpin?? mmm could b this a new variant for this year gp? or that was already there (i couldnt watch the last year's japanese gp)

also... is possible to find worldwide tracks & locations with google maps??? thx




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Just note USA doesn't like F1 (since 1981)

Hungarian GP, 1997. Last laps just when damon's problems had just begun:
(Louise Goodman has just reported that Damon Hill was on the radio with Tom Walkinshaw)
Murray: "How do they do that, Martin? How does a man talk calmly and especially to his team boss, when Damon in the situation he's in?"
Martin: "Well, you press a little button on the steering wheel and start talking, Murray. There's a little speaker in the front of your crash helmet..."
(excerpted from the "Brundle's Quote Central")

you're right, there's a chicane there, i don't know if it was already there, but i do hope F1 won't use it!!

with google maps you can find tracks, i've seen indianapolis and montreal (buenos aires too, but it's not a F1 track anymore )

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Lo2k
I was just answering a question from somebody regartding tex/tga, and i was just wondering, we take aa lot of tga's, and rename them to tex, but for instance the crowd and their flags are still tga's, is it not possible, to just use tga's, and forget the whole tex story? Or is that not even possible? (seems to me it is, as the crowd is tg too) Are there any disadvantages to this? Or maybe even advntages? (it takes away the tga -> tex conversion at least)

that would be nice... but aren't tex's smaller in size than tga's????? that could be one point in favour to tex's

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hm, you are right, not only are they smaller, they are much much smaller. Ok forget the question, it's no use, tex' are better

I don't know. I do believe which files are read as .tex and which are read as tga is hardcoded in the exe.
Anyhow, .tex format is far better for everyone because tex files are compressed .tga files (between 2 and 4 times), so you got some artifacts but it avoids huge slow downs as can be seen with latest high-res tracks (that hopefully use .tex files and not .tga).

beware
3DEditor has its final version: 14.4, but I won't be able to release it this night due to 2 major last minute bugs. So don't wait for it before tomorrow at least.

i hope you're mixing up 'final' and 'latest' again

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well, ok, I was speaking about latest version

care to share a changelog, or is that meant to be a surprise :+

OK, changelog should not vary tha much now, so here it is (I hope you have time in front of you to read it up to the end ):

v14.4 (july 1st 2005)
New: Add/Delete scenes
New: Delete objects !!
New: Delete parts
New: Detach faces
New: Align objects
New: create multiple pitlane sectors
New: Create .dat debug list
New: Create .gp4 debug list
New: Invert Faces vertices indices order
New: Additionnal mapping coordinates edition
New: Progress Bar when exporting .gp4 files
New: Create a backup of original files before saving
Enhanced: Track pitch, Car pitch, Car dir computation far better than any past version
Enhanced: slight better cc-line tweak value precision
Enhanced: Groupboxes now benefit from XP theme support
Enhanced: Less intrusive save reminder
Enhanced: Export .gp4 object to Z-Modeler with fixed unknown values
Enhanced: better results with U and V mapping inversion
Fixed: Camera error with Rotate/Zoom when camera is right above an object
Fixed: Mouse object rotation was the opposite of mouse move
Fixed: crash with 24bit (no alpha channel) tga files
Fixed: Track pitch computation was completely wrong
Fixed: Bad sector track pitch update when moving a sector along Z axis.
Fixed: wrong F4 and F5 command selection with past and next buttons
Fixed: re-enabled graphics display options with .bin files
Fixed: refresh scene when changing option to show selected scene only
Fixed: Graphics display options were disabled with .col files
Fixed: .both extension when "saving as" both .gp4 and .dat files.
Fixed: Computing track pitch refreshes showed command window
Fixed: Computing cc-cars pitch updates cc-car direction display
Fixed: Crash if a kerb length is superior to track length
Fixed: moving from command level to sector level was selecting past sector
Fixed: .bin files can now be created from a .gp4 track file (without loading .dat)
Fixed: statistics were not updated when an object was added in a .gp4 file
Fixed: Flag list lines were disappearing once selected
Fixed: Wrong objects display when only selected scene is displayed
Fixed: crash if first scene object has one or no parts
Fixed: bad computation of multiple sectors with negative orientation
Fixed: very slight computation error with every function related to sectors
Fixed: Invert UV Mapping was disabled with non-track .gp4 files

and new menu icons too

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> you're right, there's a chicane there, i don't
> know if it was already there, but i do hope F1
> won't use it!!

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The chicane after the hairpin is only for the bikes, no worries

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> OK, changelog should not vary tha much now, so
> here it is (I hope you have time in front of you
> to read it up to the end ):
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> v14.4 (july 1st 2005)
> New: menu icons

Nice, what i was also wondering, why is generating multiple sections in the pitlane still not working? Is it just something you've forgoten, or is there more than meets the eye?

@Lo2k:

J'ai remarqué un bug dans la version 13.5b et je ne l'ai pas vu dans le changelog:
Quand on ajoute plusieurs secteurs et qu'on règle l'altitude finale sur Zéro, le dernier secteur se retrouve beaucoup plus bas que les autres ( à altitude -1).
Je suppose que ce n'est pas voulu.

I've noticed a bug in version 13.5b and I didn't see it mentioned in the changelog:
When you add multiple sectors and set End Height to Zero, the last sector is lower than all the others (altitude -1).