So the 2009 line up: Bourdais is officially confirmed by STR

DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Bourdais will be in a Newman Haas entry if he can
> find money.

You think that is more possible than a move to Penske?
As said staying with STR is getting more and more unlikely seems like.

Money issue, I've read something along the lines that sponsors in US welcomed him with open arms, but only if goes to US, which he said it wasnt an option a month or two ago, when he was trying to find money for another STR stint.

/I dunno the latest scoop on the cash part though.

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starts:100 Wins: 12, Podiums: 34, Fastest Laps: 14, poles: 12 Points: 708
winner of Belgian GP (s1), Australian GP (s1), Canadian GP (S1), Brazilian GP(s4, s5), Hungarian GP(s3), Italian GP(s3), French GP (s5,s7), Monaco GP (s4) and USA GP

You think that is more possible than a move to Penske?

Penske will almost certainly run Ryan Hunter Reay. He has been seen around the Penske shop. Wilson also has a shot at the seat, as he has been released from Newman Haas.

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Bruninho Wrote:
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> its a #3, but its Raikkonens car not his car. In
> case u did not noticed, in the showcase pictures
> the car features both driver names behind the
> cockpit.


[tazio.uol.com.br]

le_jaguar_2004 Wrote:
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> Here's something strange...
> [www.scuderiatororosso.com]
>
> Go choose your language...
> ...you see, there's no more french, but now
> there's japanese...
>
> ...

Interesting one that, cause don't half the people in Switzerland speak French? Although in fairness the Swiss could probably speak all the languages that the STR site provides!

On the Interlagos thing, I agree there doesn't need to be a change, BUT, if they got rid of the mickey mouse Esses before the new 180 corner in the 1st option, instead having the straight re-aligned to lead directly into the corner, it would become a mega turn, at the loss, admittedly, of a fine overtaking spot. Unfortunately, a high speed loop like that reached at 200mph+ would require a gravel-trap the size of Canada these days, though.

Rodrigo007 Wrote:
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> Bruninho Wrote:
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> > its a #3, but its Raikkonens car not his car.
> In
> > case u did not noticed, in the showcase
> pictures
> > the car features both driver names behind the
> > cockpit.
>
>
> [tazio.uol.com.br]


Then Globo.com was lying. typical, never trust Globo.com

Anyway, as Domenicali says in this post, it doesnt mean he gets #1 status. Just like Jense always had #1 status at Honda no matter what was his number.

I still stand that the ferrari prick will never be a world champion. Kimi can win it again though, as much as Ferrari wants to hide it, he's clearly their #1 driver at the start of the season

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2009 05:15PM by Bruninho.

Had Ferrari set Felipe as their #1 driver after round 12 or so he'd have won it. The one time they play fair they lose... I hope they keep it that way though, at least until closing rounds of the season. Far better for the sport!

Unfortunately I think it was someone from Globo or Teo Jose who started this, though when looking for foreign sources @ autosport/ motor und / f1 today etc... there was no mention of such, neither the usual press release from FIA at their site, so someone (maybe an usual trainee error)got it wrong from some place possibly.

Guimengo Wrote:
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> Had Ferrari set Felipe as their #1 driver after
> round 12 or so he'd have won it. The one time they
> play fair they lose... I hope they keep it that
> way though, at least until closing rounds of the
> season. Far better for the sport!


No, he would have never won it. He wasnt supposed to, had Kimi won France without that frickin exhaust problem, he'd be their #1 driver until the end. And still is until he retires.

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yes, the same 'play fair' thing happened for McLaren in 2007, with almost exactly the same result.


EDIT: it looks like Kimi will be #3 afterall!

2009 Entry List:
1 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Heikki KOVALAINEN (FIN) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES

3 Kimi RAIKKONEN (FIN) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
4 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI

5 Robert KUBICA (PL) BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM BMW SAUBER
6 Nick HEIDFELD (DEU) BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM BMW SAUBER

7 Fernando ALONSO (ESP) ING RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
8 Nelson PIQUET (BR) ING RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT

9 Jarno TRULLI (IT) PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING TOYOTA
10 Timo GLOCK (DEU) PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING TOYOTA

11 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
12 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI

14 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RBR RENAULT
15 Sebastian VETTEL (DEU) RED BULL RACING RBR RENAULT

16 Nico ROSBERG (DEU) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS TOYOTA
17 Kazuki NAKAJIMA (J) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS TOYOTA

18 TBA TBA HONDA RACING F1 TEAM HONDA *
19 TBA TBA HONDA RACING F1 TEAM HONDA *

20 Adrian SUTIL (DEU) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
21 Giancarlo FISICHELLA (IT) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES

[www.autosport.com]

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2009 05:50PM by SchueyFan.

The plot thickens.

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Current team: Team ShadowSubaru, Previous teams: MPR, Minardi
starts:100 Wins: 12, Podiums: 34, Fastest Laps: 14, poles: 12 Points: 708
winner of Belgian GP (s1), Australian GP (s1), Canadian GP (S1), Brazilian GP(s4, s5), Hungarian GP(s3), Italian GP(s3), French GP (s5,s7), Monaco GP (s4) and USA GP

And I stand correct. lmao

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Pish Posh!

Kimi can't be #3, it should be Felipe. He finished higher than him in the championship

On the debut of the F60 Massa has #3 on his car.

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BRING IT ON!!!

yes, so it could change again.

i remember last year there was a similar debate over whether Lewis would be #22 or #23

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Monza972 Wrote:
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> Pish Posh!
>
> Kimi can't be #3, it should be Felipe. He finished
> higher than him in the championship

then explain why Jense was 12 instead of 11 in 2006. Same argument.

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Bruninho Wrote:
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> Monza972 Wrote:
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> > Pish Posh!
> >
> > Kimi can't be #3, it should be Felipe. He
> finished
> > higher than him in the championship
>
> then explain why Jense was 12 instead of 11 in
> 2006. Same argument.


Easy, Barrichello wanted number 11, because it was lucky to him, so Jenson let him have it.

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yes, we've had this discussion before.

usually, the driver with the highest championship position the year before gets the lower number, but it is no rule. There are various examples of this not happening, most recently Force India and Toro Rosso in 2008.

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WHO CARES?

It is a number.

superchargednut Wrote:
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> WHO CARES?
>
> It is a number.

People care about numbers. If you're higher up on a table, then supposedly it matters

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