JPM to Ganassi Nextel Cup #42
Posted by DaveEllis
ok, sorry, maybe fiery was the wrong word, maybe i should have said "stupid".
he's never really impressed in F1, and was way overhyped before he even came into F1. i would like him to stay though, although maybe in Nascar he can bump into other cars as much as he wants, without having to retire from the race. i do like his attitude and he's good value for money, just not necessarily on the racetrack.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
he's never really impressed in F1, and was way overhyped before he even came into F1. i would like him to stay though, although maybe in Nascar he can bump into other cars as much as he wants, without having to retire from the race. i do like his attitude and he's good value for money, just not necessarily on the racetrack.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
just read this on crash.net
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I gotta say im suprised its NASCAR hes joing, i was 100% sure it would be the IRL! Ah well at least hes got some protection
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I gotta say im suprised its NASCAR hes joing, i was 100% sure it would be the IRL! Ah well at least hes got some protection
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Morbid Wrote:
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> @ Iceman-Kimi: Make no mistake. We are all impressed with your
> intellectual capacity!
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agreed. its like talking to a toddler.
Muks_C Wrote:
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>ok, sorry, maybe fiery was the wrong word, maybe i should have said "stupid".
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>he's never really impressed in F1, and was way overhyped before he even came into F1. i would like him to stay >though, although maybe in Nascar he can bump into other cars as much as he wants, without having to retire from
the race. i do like his attitude and he's good value for money, just not necessarily on the racetrack.
>Never really impressed? Muks_C you usually post some good stuff but that i have to disagree with completely. never >impressed
Brazil 2001 - Would have won a GP at only his third attempt.
Monza 2001 - dominates a GP against a Ferrari that was much better and after 9/11. Whether Schuie had wrapped up the title or not is irrelevant.
Mid 2002 - Sets 7 pole positions in a row in a car that was nowhere near the F2002
Monaco 2003 - After a poor start by Williams he wins from lights to flag.
Germany 2003 - UTTER DOMINATION
Brazil 2004 - Gets one over Kimi and Rubens.
Italy 2005 - Wins despite the tyre being about to fall to peices with 6 or so laps left.
If JPM was overhyped then so was JFV. They both won a competitive CART and Indy 500 before coming to F1.
And your view on Nascar is stereotypical. Even i dont like it that much, mainly because i cba to understand it, just ask Ellis. But its more than just cars bumping into each other while going round in circles.
@Marcl: Read the Articles! He was offered a Williams drive but he turned it down.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:32PM by Mini Maestro.
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> @ Iceman-Kimi: Make no mistake. We are all impressed with your
> intellectual capacity!
>
agreed. its like talking to a toddler.
Muks_C Wrote:
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>ok, sorry, maybe fiery was the wrong word, maybe i should have said "stupid".
>
>he's never really impressed in F1, and was way overhyped before he even came into F1. i would like him to stay >though, although maybe in Nascar he can bump into other cars as much as he wants, without having to retire from
the race. i do like his attitude and he's good value for money, just not necessarily on the racetrack.
>Never really impressed? Muks_C you usually post some good stuff but that i have to disagree with completely. never >impressed
Brazil 2001 - Would have won a GP at only his third attempt.
Monza 2001 - dominates a GP against a Ferrari that was much better and after 9/11. Whether Schuie had wrapped up the title or not is irrelevant.
Mid 2002 - Sets 7 pole positions in a row in a car that was nowhere near the F2002
Monaco 2003 - After a poor start by Williams he wins from lights to flag.
Germany 2003 - UTTER DOMINATION
Brazil 2004 - Gets one over Kimi and Rubens.
Italy 2005 - Wins despite the tyre being about to fall to peices with 6 or so laps left.
If JPM was overhyped then so was JFV. They both won a competitive CART and Indy 500 before coming to F1.
And your view on Nascar is stereotypical. Even i dont like it that much, mainly because i cba to understand it, just ask Ellis. But its more than just cars bumping into each other while going round in circles.
@Marcl: Read the Articles! He was offered a Williams drive but he turned it down.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:32PM by Mini Maestro.
all very true Mini, but IMO Kimi and Alonso made a much bigger impact in F1 since their arrival, whereas JPM just seems to impact other cars!
and about Nascar, i'm not saying he'll purposely hit the cars all the time, i'm just saying he should get away with it more as they seems to be built sturdier than F1 cars, and can withstand the bumps. he's just another Sato, except he can occasionally show a flash of brilliance along with the crashes.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:45PM by Muks_C.
and about Nascar, i'm not saying he'll purposely hit the cars all the time, i'm just saying he should get away with it more as they seems to be built sturdier than F1 cars, and can withstand the bumps. he's just another Sato, except he can occasionally show a flash of brilliance along with the crashes.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:45PM by Muks_C.
JPM will fit right in with the yokels in NASCAR. His monkey like driving maneuvers are par for the course in the stock cars.
Poor, poor JPM. Even if he succeeds in NASCAR he will never be a fan favorite, and will always be viewed as a foreigner. He just doesn't understand that while F1 is truly a global sport, NASCAR is still very, very much a "good old boy" series...
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Poor, poor JPM. Even if he succeeds in NASCAR he will never be a fan favorite, and will always be viewed as a foreigner. He just doesn't understand that while F1 is truly a global sport, NASCAR is still very, very much a "good old boy" series...
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Personally I think its a great loss!
Still I will fail to be interested in the sport, even if it does now have a driver I like.
Good luck to him, I wish to see him back in F1 in the future sometime.
He was still easily one of the top drivers in the sport (bar MS, FA, KR), but im guessing this shows the character he is... he knew full well, for as long as Kimi, MS and FA are in F1 he WILL not be champion, hense him turning down an offer from a midfield team, he came into F1 to win... and that wont happen as long as the 3mentioned drivers are in :P
Hopefully the experience he has learnt will allow him to own :P
I mean... setting up a car for 10-15 turns of varying speed, compared to setting up a car for 4 left turns. Nothing against Nascar drivers or IRL but seriously thats nothing compared to setting up a car for taking high speed corners followed by a tight chicane... i guess the fact that the smallest mistake and your wayyyy back down the order.
I have no doubt he will be a winner in Nascar. F1 treated him bad... the result - a big loss.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:44PM by chet.
Still I will fail to be interested in the sport, even if it does now have a driver I like.
Good luck to him, I wish to see him back in F1 in the future sometime.
He was still easily one of the top drivers in the sport (bar MS, FA, KR), but im guessing this shows the character he is... he knew full well, for as long as Kimi, MS and FA are in F1 he WILL not be champion, hense him turning down an offer from a midfield team, he came into F1 to win... and that wont happen as long as the 3mentioned drivers are in :P
Hopefully the experience he has learnt will allow him to own :P
I mean... setting up a car for 10-15 turns of varying speed, compared to setting up a car for 4 left turns. Nothing against Nascar drivers or IRL but seriously thats nothing compared to setting up a car for taking high speed corners followed by a tight chicane... i guess the fact that the smallest mistake and your wayyyy back down the order.
I have no doubt he will be a winner in Nascar. F1 treated him bad... the result - a big loss.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:44PM by chet.
Mini Maestro schreef:
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> Morbid Wrote:
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> > @ Iceman-Kimi: Make no mistake. We are all impressed with your
> > intellectual capacity!
> >
>
> agreed. its like talking to a toddler.
>
> Muks_C Wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> >ok, sorry, maybe fiery was the wrong word, maybe i should have
> said "stupid".
> >
> >he's never really impressed in F1, and was way overhyped before he
> even came into F1. i would like him to stay >though, although maybe
> in Nascar he can bump into other cars as much as he wants, without
> having to retire from
> the race. i do like his attitude and he's good value for money, just
> not necessarily on the racetrack.
>
> >Never really impressed? Muks_C you usually post some good stuff
> but that i have to disagree with completely. never >impressed
>
> Brazil 2001 - Would have won a GP at only his third attempt.
> Monza 2001 - dominates a GP against a Ferrari that was much better and
> after 9/11. Whether Schuie had wrapped up the title or not is
> irrelevant.
> Mid 2002 - Sets 7 pole positions in a row in a car that was nowhere
> near the F2002
> Monaco 2003 - After a poor start by Williams he wins from lights to
> flag.
> Germany 2003 - UTTER DOMINATION
> Brazil 2004 - Gets one over Kimi and Rubens.
> Italy 2005 - Wins despite the tyre being about to fall to peices with
> 6 or so laps left.
>
> If JPM was overhyped then so was JFV. They both won a competitive CART
> and Indy 500 before coming to F1.
> And your view on Nascar is stereotypical. Even i dont like it that
> much, mainly because i cba to understand it, just ask Ellis. But its
> more than just cars bumping into each other while going round in
> circles.
>
> @Marcl: Read the Articles! He was offered a Williams drive but he
> turned it down.
>
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> 1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 09/07/2006 18:32 door Mini
> Maestro.
Can you please say now to how many stupid overtakings he did?
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> Morbid Wrote:
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> -----
> > @ Iceman-Kimi: Make no mistake. We are all impressed with your
> > intellectual capacity!
> >
>
> agreed. its like talking to a toddler.
>
> Muks_C Wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> >ok, sorry, maybe fiery was the wrong word, maybe i should have
> said "stupid".
> >
> >he's never really impressed in F1, and was way overhyped before he
> even came into F1. i would like him to stay >though, although maybe
> in Nascar he can bump into other cars as much as he wants, without
> having to retire from
> the race. i do like his attitude and he's good value for money, just
> not necessarily on the racetrack.
>
> >Never really impressed? Muks_C you usually post some good stuff
> but that i have to disagree with completely. never >impressed
>
> Brazil 2001 - Would have won a GP at only his third attempt.
> Monza 2001 - dominates a GP against a Ferrari that was much better and
> after 9/11. Whether Schuie had wrapped up the title or not is
> irrelevant.
> Mid 2002 - Sets 7 pole positions in a row in a car that was nowhere
> near the F2002
> Monaco 2003 - After a poor start by Williams he wins from lights to
> flag.
> Germany 2003 - UTTER DOMINATION
> Brazil 2004 - Gets one over Kimi and Rubens.
> Italy 2005 - Wins despite the tyre being about to fall to peices with
> 6 or so laps left.
>
> If JPM was overhyped then so was JFV. They both won a competitive CART
> and Indy 500 before coming to F1.
> And your view on Nascar is stereotypical. Even i dont like it that
> much, mainly because i cba to understand it, just ask Ellis. But its
> more than just cars bumping into each other while going round in
> circles.
>
> @Marcl: Read the Articles! He was offered a Williams drive but he
> turned it down.
>
>
>
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> 1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 09/07/2006 18:32 door Mini
> Maestro.
Can you please say now to how many stupid overtakings he did?
I'll be sad to see him go as he is an exciting driver. Ild be suprised if we ever see him in F1 again tho.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:57PM by matt3454.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/2006 07:57PM by matt3454.
What a fantastic coup for NASCAR to have such a major figure as JPM jumping ship from F1 to NASCAR. Hopefully he can do some total and utter pwnage, and have a great time whilst doing it. JPM is never Mr Corporate, Mr McLaren. He'll fit right in at NASCAR, and I suspect we'll see some of his best racing years in the next few years.
who said "pinnacle" Dave? i agree with what you're saying, but i can't find where someone said that F1 was the pinnacle in this thread.
@ Covfan, a grid full of JPM's would mean barely half the cars would finish the race
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
@ Covfan, a grid full of JPM's would mean barely half the cars would finish the race
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
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