The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***

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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Karan19 Wrote:
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> > DaveEllis Wrote:
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> > But for someone whos made a career out of
> > > dangerous driving and punting others off
> the
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> > > he is in NO position to critisize Sato
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> > LMAO! Which sport have you been watching?
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> My god, are you even serious?
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> But since you probably are, a few guys from the
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> Enjoy
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> France 1992
> Austrlia 1994
> Austrlia 1995
> Argentina 1997
> Jerez 1997
> Argentina 1998
> Monaco 1998
> Canada 1998
> Spa 1998
> Hockenhiem 2000
> Sepang 2003
> France 2004 FP
> Japan 2003
> China 2004
> Albert Park 2005
> Silverstone 2005 FP
> Turkey 2005
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You forgot SPA 2001, when he crashed into de La Rosa before the Eau Rouge in the wet FP2. He said that he didnt saw the green Jaguar in front of him.

Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 04:32PM
Posted by: tripleM
being punted by Alesi in Australia in a way reminiscent to what Sato did

Monaco where the blame is 50-50 because Wurz was also racing hard

Spa 1998-there's a quote from Coulthard somewhere in this thread

there are more debatable incidents but those are the 3 that make me wonder about the intent of making such a list


Spa 1998-there's a quote from Coulthard somewhere in this thread

We're not talking about the DC/MS accident.

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Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 04:43PM
Posted by: tripleM
Then i am not sure that a slight touch of wheels at the start was a devious plot to put Hakkinen out.






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2005 04:51PM by tripleM.
Nobody said it was. Nobody said all of those accidents were delbrate. But neither was Satos. If Schumacher is going to have a ago at Sato for accidently taking him out, then he better start apologising for an entire career of accidents, some of which were delbrate.

Of the current drivers on the grid, Schumachers record for hitting other cars is by far the worst.

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Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 04:59PM
Posted by: Zyklef
Remember when he tried unlappign Diniz at Monaco 98 too, pretty stupid. I remember Diniz saying just 'cause he's Michael Schumacher and he's having a bad day doesn't mean he can ruin other people's races.
Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 05:12PM
Posted by: tripleM
Thing is that it looks more like Mika than Schumacher being overly agressive





The same in 1999



It's obvious who was the cause ;-)


Theres a large ammount of run off on the exit which should be used ;) And even if you ignore that 1 accident it doesnt eliminate the rest :)

Im in no way blaming Schumacher for every accident hes been in. But again, if Schumachers going to go on a strop because someone accidently hit him, then some apologies for delbratly driving into others might be in order :)

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with team mates like that, who needs enemies!
Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 05:33PM
Posted by: tripleM
"And even if you ignore that 1 accident it doesnt eliminate the rest"

Of course it doesn't.

Still this accident made it to the list as proof of Schumacher's dangerous driving when there wasn't any.

Schumacher is no saint but with his record it's pointless to make him look worse than he is. ;-)






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2005 05:34PM by tripleM.
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Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 05:48PM
Posted by: marcl
sato made an error come on many drivers have made them in the passed it happens from time to time. As said MS made the same error twice in 1992 at france. At least sato said sorry :).


Sato said sorry senna accepted nakas sorry for brazil 1990 ms should do the same u never heard senna going on and on about it and that cost him a win.

Had MS not gone onto dry tyres he would not have been back there anyway lol.

Spa proved that the tyres are very equal.
rofl, great cartoon. So true!

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Schumacher is no saint but with his record it's pointless to make him look worse than he is.

The list in no way tries to bring his achivments into doubt. Hes one of the best drivers ever, hes achived alot and has had some stunning drives over the years. It was simply an answer to Karan here, who doesnt appear to know mich of Schumachers history. And if he does know it, hes chosen to ignore it.

The records which are recorded about Schumacher are indeed fantastic. But its ashame records arent kept of the bad things that happen in F1, otherwise he would be close to topping those as well

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Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 06:37PM
Posted by: Lemming
well that cartoon is more professionally done than my sig anyway....



They can change weather tyres and refueling at the same time. When they go from wet do dry they can't change the dry's anymore or it should been wet again, but wet tyres can't be changed all the time like happend in spa!
Tyre regulations are a bit confusing tbh.

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Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 08:37PM
Posted by: Muks_C
so you're saying that if you have ever punched anyone in your life, if someone comes and pucnhes you, you have no right whatsoever to be upset and make it known to that person that you are upset/angry?

Schumacher may have had many accidents, and caused a lot, but he is still entitled to be angry/upset if someone does it to him, the same as Sato is entitled to be angry/upset if anyone takes him out at the next race.

about the tyre changes, while using any non-dry tyres, you can change all 4 as many times as you want and refuel at the same time. the rules change once non-dry tyres are used.




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Re: The Belgium Grand Prix Thread *** EXPECT SPOILERS!!!***
Date: September 12, 2005 10:04PM
Posted by: Karan19
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Schumacher is no saint but with his record it's
> pointless to make him look worse than he is.
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> The list in no way tries to bring his achivments
> into doubt. Hes one of the best drivers ever, hes
> achived alot and has had some stunning drives over
> the years. It was simply an answer to Karan here,
> who doesnt appear to know mich of Schumachers
> history. And if he does know it, hes chosen to
> ignore it.

why are you blaming him for being pissed off at sato? he's only human. im not condemning sato for the incident the way you are condemning schumacher as a dangerous driver. anyway im just gonna ignore your little (hah) list and move onto the more sane messages in this forum, cause like TripleM said that list seems to have been made over quite a few drinks on msn it seems ;) cause i mean come on...germany 2000 seriously? how many dozen drinks did you have to make you forget that GF took out MS on that occasion?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2005 10:07PM by Karan19.
Muks - thats not what i said at all. But Schumacher never apologises for his accidents, and even had the down right cheeky to blame JV for Jerez 1997 at first. If he is going to start getting angry and walking up and giving drivers a talking to like he did with sato, he better sit himself down and talk to himself at first because his record for running into other cars is one of the worst in F1

Are you ignoring the list because you know that these are valid points, or because you dont know what they are? How long have you been watching F1 Karan? Honestly please.

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