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OT - where were you karting if i may ask :p

GTR rain wasnt too good either for performance. Nor was F1c

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> OT - where were you karting if i may ask :p

The mad, mad Gateshead indoor track. Traditional Knockhill BTCC meet we have where the Saturday is taken up by fannying about doing something which inevitably ends up in bruises, pulled muscles or general ailments brought about by being too old or unfit. :P

I don't think Dave has been back since his first experience of the place either. :P

We prefer the outdoor track at Sunderland, especially in the forecast weather (rain), but it was unavailable.

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> GTR rain wasnt too good either for performance.
> Nor was F1c

Well F1C was the same era as GP4, give or take, so it's fair to say it was never going to live up to much. I can't even remember the GTR rain, and never played anything else with rain since GP4.

Rain is certainly possible, and physics wise, if the core physics model is decent, then adding rain to the mix ought to be relatively easy.

Graphically it ought to be piss simple as well (even GPL has had a fog option built in from the start), but making it work so it's at a level close to the rest of the game would be a nightmare without obliterating the frame-rate.

Look at recent games with large volumetric smoke (I used the example of World in Conflict demo benchmark at the weekend) where in an explosion, even a mass of smoke which takes up 1/3 of the screen simply kills the frame rate. To half-realistically render spray in a modern game, plus all the additional reflections and individual droplets, would be a massive challenge.

I know a lot were extremely annoyed at ISI for never implementing what was on the todo list (myself included), but now I sit down and think about it, I can't even understand how it made it onto such a list, regardless of intent. Dave might want correct me there as I've been rather out of touch with rF from near the beginning. Is it a possibility for rF2?



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I don't think Dave has been back since his first experience of the place either. :P

That circuit is STUPID.

Dave might want correct me there as I've been rather out of touch with rF from near the beginning. Is it a possibility for rF2?

It is a very real possibility for rF2, in fact it may already be "in" it. ISI always said that they would never do half arsed rain. If they were going to do rain then it must be done properly, not like F1C (which only had rain because EA wanted it).

Somewhat worryingly, the "Rain Circuits" for rFactor such as Montral 2008, Nurburgring, and Putnam, have much better rain physics and spray than GTR2. Ok the conditions are not changeable and it is always a compromise, but it works exceptionally well, especially compared to companies like Simbin who ploughed money into developing "proper" rain.

But at the end of the day, its a gimmick. It wouldn't be extensively used like people claim. Most will run it every so often then go back to racing in the dry. I'd much rather ISI spend time talking to the RealFeel developers, or Niels and Renato about the tyre physics, than develop rain.

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> I don't think Dave has been back since his first
> experience of the place either. :P
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> That circuit is STUPID.

It's awesome! Completely @#$%& up in every conceivable way. Just what you want to race on. It's like a Scalextric track but with actual death.

For those who don't know, it's a 2-tier track where you go up a ramp flat out, bottoming out, turn sharp left, still with your foot mashed (only just, and if you can hold it there) with the left-front in the air (in a rigid chassis remember), get flung from one side of the seat to the other, go down the ramp, still accelerating, bottom out again and carry on around the rest of the track, which is still full of corners which are only just flat out.

They had pumped the tyres up this year to try to limit the bottoming out, but that made the cars 'bounce', as Neil put it, around the corners. Very little from what I felt, but it was noticeable from the last time. And it didn't solve the bottoming issue either.

If you were to design a great track for relatively slow, rented karts, this would be it.



That picture does the ramp no justice at all. It's far steeper and sharper than that.

The stats are bollocks too. Our fastest lap (Kev, predictably, though Neil was close) was 27.8 and the slowest of us was a 28.6. It's more like 300m than 500m and it feels like you're doing 140mph next to the tyre walls.

Oh, and Ian got rammed into a bridge. It's funny if you know the history between Rich, Ian and bridges in VT. :D



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I thought the hands and arms were supposed to move?

Nice.

[Edited by myself after a POLITE AND EDUCATED request from Michael Lam at 10-28-2008, 10:55PM]

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/29/2008 01:58AM by Bruninho.

Forget it.

Nice screens Karan.

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Thanks for these Sim, I love the way these cars look :D

Gui the arms/hands dont move in the external views at all do they?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2008 02:19AM by Karan.

Nevermind, I was thinking CTDP 06...

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2008 04:08PM by DaveEllis.

Am I right in saying that´s at Paul Ricard, Dave? Or is actually the Le Mans track?

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> Am I right in saying that´s at Paul Ricard, Dave?
> Or is actually the Le Mans track?

Most of them are Ricard, but there's also Laguna Seca and (i think) another one in there.

Awesome stuff though.

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Karan, can you please tell me, which is the best '08 mod for rF? /which you use/
The Force India screens are amazing!