GP2 Manager - 2005: Silverstone Free Practice & Qualification Results PG36 - Searching for a new manager!
Posted by Reve-san
Well pycku, if you want to have a team you can't do the negotiations as this will naturally end in conflicts of interest sooner or later. So, to restart this series we'll need somebody who is up to running it. That means, at least, doing the perfs, the negotiations and all the organization. The races could be run by basically anybody, assumed that everybody has trust in the other participants that nobody cheats. But...I fear that we won't find somebody to do the main stuff. And after the happenings with Reve-san, a person who would take over would have to be sure to be able to run the series for at least a complete season, otherwise it would end in exactly the same situation again.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
If someone was to prepare the mod file, I could perhaps take it over as I stepped down from my Mclaren role in the main series. I would need a list of what I would need to be doing though.
JohnWarrington Wrote:
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> If someone was to prepare the mod file, I could
> perhaps take it over as I stepped down from my
> Mclaren role in the main series. I would need a
> list of what I would need to be doing though.
Well if yourself and Jake wouldn't mind handling the perfs and budgets for both GP2 and F1 (I know it's a big ask) then both series could technically maintained without having someone at the head of the whole thing, although it would still be nice to have someone, as long as we can manage find some race directors for the GP2 series.
Also, considering the reasons why this series has died in the first place, if it was to start again I would propose removing all this crap about sending in engine data at test sessions,bidding for engines, etc, and just use the same methods and formulas as the F1 series, it was all becoming far too complicated imo. This should make it easier to maintain and remove the issue of converting GP2 driver perfs to F1 drivers perfs and vice versa.
Managers wise you should have nine at the moment, unless Dan has changed his mind about managing a GP2 team, and I can take up a team to fill up the numbers seeing as I'm stepping down from managing the F1 series completely at the end of the season.
Interested in managing an F1 team? Sign up for the Grandprixgames F1 Manager game here
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> If someone was to prepare the mod file, I could
> perhaps take it over as I stepped down from my
> Mclaren role in the main series. I would need a
> list of what I would need to be doing though.
Well if yourself and Jake wouldn't mind handling the perfs and budgets for both GP2 and F1 (I know it's a big ask) then both series could technically maintained without having someone at the head of the whole thing, although it would still be nice to have someone, as long as we can manage find some race directors for the GP2 series.
Also, considering the reasons why this series has died in the first place, if it was to start again I would propose removing all this crap about sending in engine data at test sessions,bidding for engines, etc, and just use the same methods and formulas as the F1 series, it was all becoming far too complicated imo. This should make it easier to maintain and remove the issue of converting GP2 driver perfs to F1 drivers perfs and vice versa.
Managers wise you should have nine at the moment, unless Dan has changed his mind about managing a GP2 team, and I can take up a team to fill up the numbers seeing as I'm stepping down from managing the F1 series completely at the end of the season.
Interested in managing an F1 team? Sign up for the Grandprixgames F1 Manager game here
Seeing as both John and Connor have asked for a 'to do list' for running a league, here is a list of what I used to do for the F1 league off the top of my head:
1. Looking after the OP - involves updating the OP with quali, race results and current standings, adding/removing people from the waiting list, updating team general and testing budgets as well as updating the available drivers; plus updating the provisonial 2006 lineups. To be honest the vast majority of this is just filling in a template which I can provide.
2. Handling contract negotiations/budgets - firstly involves drawing up contract prices and team budgets, then once that's done all that is required is to randomly select 4/5 drivers to be open for negotiations and then take in bids from the managers and keep track of each teams budget. Finally all that is left is to post some waffle at the end of each race when a driver signs for a team. After drawing up the budgets, this is a relatively simple task which just involves plugging numbers into a spreadsheet, I personally find that the longest bit of the procedure it actually just making the tables to post after the race.
3. Handling test sessions - involves firstly making sure everyone is aware that a test session is coming up, mainly as most seem to be unaware that there is actually a calender in the OP
I do this firstly by announcing, usually a race in advance, that a test session is coming up and then follow this up by sending out a pm to each manager as to where they rank against the other teams in terms of pace and reliability, to ensure they are fully aware. After that all that is left is to update the formula and run the session. Again this is a fairly mundane task, it's just time consuming.
4. Handling perfs - involves generating and maintaining each teams perf throughout the season and also updating the driver perfs as each race passes. Again this is mostly just a case of plugging numbers into a formula.
5. Compiling the mod - involves collecting all the new textures and liveries (this seasons was done solely by Alesi, but Kedy is helping him this year) and copy and pasting the files in the correct places in the mod. Once this is done all that is needed is to maintain the mod by adding in new/updated textures as driver changes occur during the season. This is again an easy task but is also very time consuming, but once it's done there is very little to do here.
And also until recently...
6. Running races - involves running races and then writing up race reports and updating the standings. I found this to be by far the most time consuming aspect of the job and also sometimes the most frustrating, however having said that GP4 usually puts on a good show If we can find a few people to help with running the races, this would be very handy indeed.
Incident 2k9 Wrote:
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> As all GP2 teams use the same Mecachrome engines
> and the same Dallara chassis, how should we
> differentiate teams in the most realistic way
> possible?
>
> And yes, I can do the driver bids as well.
Thanks Jake that would be great!
Regarding the engines, what I proposed to Reve last time, despite not being completely realistic, was to have three different engine providers e.g. Ferrari, Renault and Mercedes. Then choose one to be the most expensive which provides the most power; but is the least reliable, choose another to be at the other end of the spectrum by providing the least power but being the most reliable, and then have one slap bang in the middle.
Interested in managing an F1 team? Sign up for the Grandprixgames F1 Manager game here
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2012 11:06PM by Twigster151.
1. Looking after the OP - involves updating the OP with quali, race results and current standings, adding/removing people from the waiting list, updating team general and testing budgets as well as updating the available drivers; plus updating the provisonial 2006 lineups. To be honest the vast majority of this is just filling in a template which I can provide.
2. Handling contract negotiations/budgets - firstly involves drawing up contract prices and team budgets, then once that's done all that is required is to randomly select 4/5 drivers to be open for negotiations and then take in bids from the managers and keep track of each teams budget. Finally all that is left is to post some waffle at the end of each race when a driver signs for a team. After drawing up the budgets, this is a relatively simple task which just involves plugging numbers into a spreadsheet, I personally find that the longest bit of the procedure it actually just making the tables to post after the race.
3. Handling test sessions - involves firstly making sure everyone is aware that a test session is coming up, mainly as most seem to be unaware that there is actually a calender in the OP
I do this firstly by announcing, usually a race in advance, that a test session is coming up and then follow this up by sending out a pm to each manager as to where they rank against the other teams in terms of pace and reliability, to ensure they are fully aware. After that all that is left is to update the formula and run the session. Again this is a fairly mundane task, it's just time consuming.4. Handling perfs - involves generating and maintaining each teams perf throughout the season and also updating the driver perfs as each race passes. Again this is mostly just a case of plugging numbers into a formula.
5. Compiling the mod - involves collecting all the new textures and liveries (this seasons was done solely by Alesi, but Kedy is helping him this year) and copy and pasting the files in the correct places in the mod. Once this is done all that is needed is to maintain the mod by adding in new/updated textures as driver changes occur during the season. This is again an easy task but is also very time consuming, but once it's done there is very little to do here.
And also until recently...
6. Running races - involves running races and then writing up race reports and updating the standings. I found this to be by far the most time consuming aspect of the job and also sometimes the most frustrating, however having said that GP4 usually puts on a good show
If we can find a few people to help with running the races, this would be very handy indeed.Incident 2k9 Wrote:
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> As all GP2 teams use the same Mecachrome engines
> and the same Dallara chassis, how should we
> differentiate teams in the most realistic way
> possible?
>
> And yes, I can do the driver bids as well.
Thanks Jake that would be great!
Regarding the engines, what I proposed to Reve last time, despite not being completely realistic, was to have three different engine providers e.g. Ferrari, Renault and Mercedes. Then choose one to be the most expensive which provides the most power; but is the least reliable, choose another to be at the other end of the spectrum by providing the least power but being the most reliable, and then have one slap bang in the middle.
Interested in managing an F1 team? Sign up for the Grandprixgames F1 Manager game here
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2012 11:06PM by Twigster151.
If required I could run some races Also could help with performance files.
Joseph Gilson :: Southern Cross Racing :: Race Driver
Also could help with performance files.Joseph Gilson :: Southern Cross Racing :: Race Driver
Ok based on what jack posted above (thanks for the info), i could possibly run this/help run this series. Although by all means i will let john have first choice on whether he wants to run it as im involved with the GPGSL/GPGNC. But the offer to help still stands
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This is a real post, not only to keep the thread up
The mod re-building is just in progress. Connor (truecrisis) and me are just setting things to whom will re-build it. Just as an ahead warning, we might need some more files again from people who changed their liveries (including me^^) during the 2005 season.
Also I would suggest that every team keeps their numbers from the 2005 season as A) we didn't have a full season before and B) this would spare a lot of file-editing.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
The mod re-building is just in progress. Connor (truecrisis) and me are just setting things to whom will re-build it. Just as an ahead warning, we might need some more files again from people who changed their liveries (including me^^) during the 2005 season.
Also I would suggest that every team keeps their numbers from the 2005 season as A) we didn't have a full season before and B) this would spare a lot of file-editing.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
Twigster151 Wrote:
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> Seeing as both John and Connor have asked for a
> 'to do list' for running a league, here is a list
> of what I used to do for the F1 league off the top
> of my head:
>
> 1. Looking after the OP - involves updating the OP
> with quali, race results and current standings,
> adding/removing people from the waiting list,
> updating team general and testing budgets as well
> as updating the available drivers; plus updating
> the provisonial 2006 lineups. To be honest the
> vast majority of this is just filling in a
> template which I can provide.
>
> 2. Handling contract negotiations/budgets -
> firstly involves drawing up contract prices and
> team budgets, then once that's done all that is
> required is to randomly select 4/5 drivers to be
> open for negotiations and then take in bids from
> the managers and keep track of each teams budget.
> Finally all that is left is to post some waffle at
> the end of each race when a driver signs for a
> team. After drawing up the budgets, this is a
> relatively simple task which just involves
> plugging numbers into a spreadsheet, I personally
> find that the longest bit of the procedure it
> actually just making the tables to post after the
> race.
>
> 3. Handling test sessions - involves firstly
> making sure everyone is aware that a test session
> is coming up, mainly as most seem to be unaware
> that there is actually a calender in the OP I
> do this firstly by announcing, usually a race in
> advance, that a test session is coming up and then
> follow this up by sending out a pm to each manager
> as to where they rank against the other teams in
> terms of pace and reliability, to ensure they are
> fully aware. After that all that is left is to
> update the formula and run the session. Again this
> is a fairly mundane task, it's just time
> consuming.
>
> 4. Handling perfs - involves generating and
> maintaining each teams perf throughout the season
> and also updating the driver perfs as each race
> passes. Again this is mostly just a case of
> plugging numbers into a formula.
>
> 5. Compiling the mod - involves collecting all the
> new textures and liveries (this seasons was done
> solely by Alesi, but Kedy is helping him this
> year) and copy and pasting the files in the
> correct places in the mod. Once this is done all
> that is needed is to maintain the mod by adding in
> new/updated textures as driver changes occur
> during the season. This is again an easy task but
> is also very time consuming, but once it's done
> there is very little to do here.
>
> And also until recently...
>
> 6. Running races - involves running races and then
> writing up race reports and updating the
> standings. I found this to be by far the most time
> consuming aspect of the job and also sometimes the
> most frustrating, however having said that GP4
> usually puts on a good show If we can find a
> few people to help with running the races, this
> would be very handy indeed.
>
> Incident 2k9 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As all GP2 teams use the same Mecachrome
> engines
> > and the same Dallara chassis, how should we
> > differentiate teams in the most realistic way
> > possible?
> >
> > And yes, I can do the driver bids as well.
>
> Thanks Jake that would be great!
>
> Regarding the engines, what I proposed to Reve
> last time, despite not being completely realistic,
> was to have three different engine providers e.g.
> Ferrari, Renault and Mercedes. Then choose one to
> be the most expensive which provides the most
> power; but is the least reliable, choose another
> to be at the other end of the spectrum by
> providing the least power but being the most
> reliable, and then have one slap bang in the
> middle.
Still unsure on running this especially given the format of the race weekend.
1, 4 and 6 are ok for me. Wouldn't really want to do 2, 3 and 5 especially given that I'm also looking after the F1 perfs from next season onwards
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> Seeing as both John and Connor have asked for a
> 'to do list' for running a league, here is a list
> of what I used to do for the F1 league off the top
> of my head:
>
> 1. Looking after the OP - involves updating the OP
> with quali, race results and current standings,
> adding/removing people from the waiting list,
> updating team general and testing budgets as well
> as updating the available drivers; plus updating
> the provisonial 2006 lineups. To be honest the
> vast majority of this is just filling in a
> template which I can provide.
>
> 2. Handling contract negotiations/budgets -
> firstly involves drawing up contract prices and
> team budgets, then once that's done all that is
> required is to randomly select 4/5 drivers to be
> open for negotiations and then take in bids from
> the managers and keep track of each teams budget.
> Finally all that is left is to post some waffle at
> the end of each race when a driver signs for a
> team. After drawing up the budgets, this is a
> relatively simple task which just involves
> plugging numbers into a spreadsheet, I personally
> find that the longest bit of the procedure it
> actually just making the tables to post after the
> race.
>
> 3. Handling test sessions - involves firstly
> making sure everyone is aware that a test session
> is coming up, mainly as most seem to be unaware
> that there is actually a calender in the OP
I> do this firstly by announcing, usually a race in
> advance, that a test session is coming up and then
> follow this up by sending out a pm to each manager
> as to where they rank against the other teams in
> terms of pace and reliability, to ensure they are
> fully aware. After that all that is left is to
> update the formula and run the session. Again this
> is a fairly mundane task, it's just time
> consuming.
>
> 4. Handling perfs - involves generating and
> maintaining each teams perf throughout the season
> and also updating the driver perfs as each race
> passes. Again this is mostly just a case of
> plugging numbers into a formula.
>
> 5. Compiling the mod - involves collecting all the
> new textures and liveries (this seasons was done
> solely by Alesi, but Kedy is helping him this
> year) and copy and pasting the files in the
> correct places in the mod. Once this is done all
> that is needed is to maintain the mod by adding in
> new/updated textures as driver changes occur
> during the season. This is again an easy task but
> is also very time consuming, but once it's done
> there is very little to do here.
>
> And also until recently...
>
> 6. Running races - involves running races and then
> writing up race reports and updating the
> standings. I found this to be by far the most time
> consuming aspect of the job and also sometimes the
> most frustrating, however having said that GP4
> usually puts on a good show
If we can find a> few people to help with running the races, this
> would be very handy indeed.
>
> Incident 2k9 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As all GP2 teams use the same Mecachrome
> engines
> > and the same Dallara chassis, how should we
> > differentiate teams in the most realistic way
> > possible?
> >
> > And yes, I can do the driver bids as well.
>
> Thanks Jake that would be great!
>
> Regarding the engines, what I proposed to Reve
> last time, despite not being completely realistic,
> was to have three different engine providers e.g.
> Ferrari, Renault and Mercedes. Then choose one to
> be the most expensive which provides the most
> power; but is the least reliable, choose another
> to be at the other end of the spectrum by
> providing the least power but being the most
> reliable, and then have one slap bang in the
> middle.
Still unsure on running this especially given the format of the race weekend.
1, 4 and 6 are ok for me. Wouldn't really want to do 2, 3 and 5 especially given that I'm also looking after the F1 perfs from next season onwards
Everything else doesn't make sense as some of the drivers from this season might be used from F1 teams next season. So yes, teams will have to sign drivers from scratch.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
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