GP4 F1 1991 MOD released !
Posted by VELOCIPEDE
_Erix_ Wrote:
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> Can you tell me at which point during the loading
> process this takes place?
>
> Is it before you see the weather screen?
> Then the .dat is corrupt and you need to reinstall
> the PLUS trackpack and 1991update01 (the updated
> trackpack).
>
> Is it at 80-90% of the loading process?
> One of the wad's is corrupt.
>
In fact ,the crash takes place at about 95% of the loading process. The screen turns black and afer approximately 4 seconds I see my desktop.
I wil carry out the tests you have mentioned some time later. As soon as I get some results, I will surely let you know.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/26/2007 12:54PM by abdelkader.
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>
> Can you tell me at which point during the loading
> process this takes place?
>
> Is it before you see the weather screen?
> Then the .dat is corrupt and you need to reinstall
> the PLUS trackpack and 1991update01 (the updated
> trackpack).
>
> Is it at 80-90% of the loading process?
> One of the wad's is corrupt.
>
In fact ,the crash takes place at about 95% of the loading process. The screen turns black and afer approximately 4 seconds I see my desktop.
I wil carry out the tests you have mentioned some time later. As soon as I get some results, I will surely let you know.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/26/2007 12:54PM by abdelkader.
Hi Erik 
Yu won't believe me...it works fine now. No single track crashes !!!Even Silverstone and Hockenheim work fine.
You have mentioned the two tests in your last post. In order to carry them out I have prepared a clean install of GP4, then I loaded the 1991 mod, then its update01, then I loaded the 1991 trackpack v2. I launched the game and it just works
I think my mistake was that I previously always installed 1991 trackpack v1 and after this step I would install trackpack v2. I think that this process might have caused some malfunction.
Don't bother anymore. THE SITUATION IS UNDER CONTROL FROM NOW ON
P.S. Now I have got some mminor questions not connected with bugs or crashes.
1) I noticed that when I enter CSM ,change some configurables and start the mod - I don't see any changes...but when I click "Restore" in CSM, then I change some configurables and finally I reload the mod again, the changes are visible. Why is it so? Is it a CSM bug? Do I have to Restore the 1991 mod everytime I want to change something in its configurables?
2) The question about the 2d steering wheel in driver's eyes camera (don't mistake it with cockpit view). Why isn't the steering wheel round-shaped (in fact it is somehow "half round-shaped"? Was it determined by some game limitations?
Thanks for your help, Erik. Now I can see what "1991 mod" is all about.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/26/2007 02:30PM by abdelkader.
Yu won't believe me...it works fine now. No single track crashes !!!Even Silverstone and Hockenheim work fine.
You have mentioned the two tests in your last post. In order to carry them out I have prepared a clean install of GP4, then I loaded the 1991 mod, then its update01, then I loaded the 1991 trackpack v2. I launched the game and it just works
I think my mistake was that I previously always installed 1991 trackpack v1 and after this step I would install trackpack v2. I think that this process might have caused some malfunction.
Don't bother anymore. THE SITUATION IS UNDER CONTROL FROM NOW ON
P.S. Now I have got some mminor questions not connected with bugs or crashes.
1) I noticed that when I enter CSM ,change some configurables and start the mod - I don't see any changes...but when I click "Restore" in CSM, then I change some configurables and finally I reload the mod again, the changes are visible. Why is it so? Is it a CSM bug? Do I have to Restore the 1991 mod everytime I want to change something in its configurables?
2) The question about the 2d steering wheel in driver's eyes camera (don't mistake it with cockpit view). Why isn't the steering wheel round-shaped (in fact it is somehow "half round-shaped"? Was it determined by some game limitations?
Thanks for your help, Erik. Now I can see what "1991 mod" is all about.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/26/2007 02:30PM by abdelkader.
That's great news! I'm happy that all works fine now!
1) Be sure to set CSM to auto-restore (file->options->check auto restore
2) I'm not sure why we did it like that. I guess it was due to some limitations indeed
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
1) Be sure to set CSM to auto-restore (file->options->check auto restore
2) I'm not sure why we did it like that. I guess it was due to some limitations indeed
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
I see. At the beginning ,the auto-restore option was switched on but I unchecked it as I would get really annoyed when the mod loaded long. Now I understand that it is crucial in order to avoid the situation I described in my last post (question 1).
It's a pity that the game is limited in the point which prevents it from having a round-shaped, external steering wheel. However (I'm not sure though) I think that ,when I once loaded the 1988 mod, its external steering wheel was a round-shaped one.
So maybe it is possible...well, it can be a point to discuss for you - the mod creators
Another thing ,which I know that can't be fixed, is that the 3d steering wheel is fitted to the helmet and ,as a result, it moves in a weird manner from time to time (you know...the wheel turns to the right while the car goes to the left). Those 3d wheels are a really strong point of the 1991 mod.
One more, the very last, question:
What is the soundtrack of the 1991 mod? I know that there's a song called "Unfinished sympathy". I also know that the winner of a race is presented with "Run to you" by Bryan Adams, but these are the only titles that I know of. There are some more, instrumental themes which really send me shivers but I don't even know what they are called.
It's a pity that the game is limited in the point which prevents it from having a round-shaped, external steering wheel. However (I'm not sure though) I think that ,when I once loaded the 1988 mod, its external steering wheel was a round-shaped one.
So maybe it is possible...well, it can be a point to discuss for you - the mod creators
Another thing ,which I know that can't be fixed, is that the 3d steering wheel is fitted to the helmet and ,as a result, it moves in a weird manner from time to time (you know...the wheel turns to the right while the car goes to the left). Those 3d wheels are a really strong point of the 1991 mod.
One more, the very last, question:
What is the soundtrack of the 1991 mod? I know that there's a song called "Unfinished sympathy". I also know that the winner of a race is presented with "Run to you" by Bryan Adams, but these are the only titles that I know of. There are some more, instrumental themes which really send me shivers but I don't even know what they are called.
The steering wheel in the 88 mod is a GpxPatch overlay and not an actual steering wheel, if I remember correctly.
I think our problem was that the file/space to use for the steering wheel is rectangular and if you draw a round wheel on it, it would be too small.
The mod has several classic songs in it. Unfinished Sympathy by Massive Attack is one of them. From the top of my head, there's also Owner of a lonely heart by Yes and Unbelievable by EMF.
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
I think our problem was that the file/space to use for the steering wheel is rectangular and if you draw a round wheel on it, it would be too small.
The mod has several classic songs in it. Unfinished Sympathy by Massive Attack is one of them. From the top of my head, there's also Owner of a lonely heart by Yes and Unbelievable by EMF.
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
OK. I have just sent Greg Alexander a PM. According to the mod credits, it was him who was responsible for the music. Now I am waiting for his reply. Maybe he will clear the things up.
Thank you for your will to help and good pieces of information. Take care and enjoy X-mas.
Regards,
Przemek
Thank you for your will to help and good pieces of information. Take care and enjoy X-mas.
Regards,
Przemek
That's right, the tracks from the PLUS trackpack have some blank track sponsors.
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
ah ok, thanks for your reply
One of the songs used for menus and the 2nd podium placing is The Fuji TV F1 intro theme called 'Truth'.
Another song used in the menus was one the BBC used in the early 80's to early 90's for their grid lineups. This song was taken from the 1983 film 'The Never Ending Story' and it's called 'Ivory Tower'.
The song for the Pole Position is the instrumental part of 'Owner of a Lonely Heart' by Yes.
The songs used for the WinChamp4 video is EMF's 'Unbelievable'(great job by Erik there).
The Mod intro sequence was taken from the Official 1991 FIA Review.
F1archives * Facebook * YouTube
Another song used in the menus was one the BBC used in the early 80's to early 90's for their grid lineups. This song was taken from the 1983 film 'The Never Ending Story' and it's called 'Ivory Tower'.
The song for the Pole Position is the instrumental part of 'Owner of a Lonely Heart' by Yes.
The songs used for the WinChamp4 video is EMF's 'Unbelievable'(great job by Erik there).
The Mod intro sequence was taken from the Official 1991 FIA Review.
F1archives * Facebook * YouTube
Erik and Greg, you two are just unbelievable ...UH!
Where can I download the 1991 mod version of "Truth" ?
I managed to find some "modern" intros basing upon this theme but they just suck. Modernized style of "Truth" makes sparks not fly anymore in my heart.
Maybe there's a way in which I could extract this theme from the 1991 mod? (I'm not experienced in this field, that's why don't get upset if this question is nothing but asking about an obvious thing )
I'm really keen on having the themes mentioned by Greg on my headphones all the time
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No more problems. I managed to get all I wanted. Once again thanks for the assistance.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2007 02:05AM by abdelkader.
I managed to find some "modern" intros basing upon this theme but they just suck. Modernized style of "Truth" makes sparks not fly anymore in my heart.
Maybe there's a way in which I could extract this theme from the 1991 mod? (I'm not experienced in this field, that's why don't get upset if this question is nothing but asking about an obvious thing )
I'm really keen on having the themes mentioned by Greg on my headphones all the time
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No more problems. I managed to get all I wanted. Once again thanks for the assistance.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2007 02:05AM by abdelkader.
I dunno whether this is welcome or not, but I took the time to sort out the credits "skipping" suddenly upwards about half-way through the first intro video. After painstakingly adding about 9 frames in between the skipping (thank you MS Paint!), I then re-did the file to the point where it now looks absolutely seamless! (I think.)
I've tried it in GP4 and it works, so I'll upload it for you to try. Just replace it over the old "Logos.bik" file, but back that original up just in case.
Link: [rapidshare.com]
@Erix: if you want to include it in the next update (if there is one), you're quite welcome to. Credit would be nice, but I'm not picky.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
I've tried it in GP4 and it works, so I'll upload it for you to try. Just replace it over the old "Logos.bik" file, but back that original up just in case.
Link: [rapidshare.com]
@Erix: if you want to include it in the next update (if there is one), you're quite welcome to. Credit would be nice, but I'm not picky.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
Thanks, we didn't have the time to sort it out back then. I will have a look at it and if it's ok I will put it online as an update
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
_Erix_ Wrote:
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> Thanks, we didn't have the time to sort it out
> back then. I will have a look at it and if it's ok
> I will put it online as an update
Excellent, I eagerly await the (next) update.
@celinho: The cars chosen were balanced between the competitive midfield and some of the backmarkers. There's unlikely to be the other cars you specified unless somebody either expresses an interest in making them or actually does it. It *might* (big conditional that) happen when everything (tracks included) is finished.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
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> Thanks, we didn't have the time to sort it out
> back then. I will have a look at it and if it's ok
> I will put it online as an update
Excellent, I eagerly await the (next) update.
@celinho: The cars chosen were balanced between the competitive midfield and some of the backmarkers. There's unlikely to be the other cars you specified unless somebody either expresses an interest in making them or actually does it. It *might* (big conditional that) happen when everything (tracks included) is finished.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
I have a question about Brazil 1991. Is the original pitlane gonna be made for it? Same with France.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
abdelkader Wrote:
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> Another thing ,which I know that can't be fixed,
> is that the 3d steering wheel is fitted to the
> helmet and ,as a result, it moves in a weird
> manner from time to time (you know...the wheel
> turns to the right while the car goes to the
> left). Those 3d wheels are a really strong point
> of the 1991 mod.
I am quoting myself as I have been thinking about it lately. Maybe it is possible to make 3d steering wheels move in a "normal" way ?
I am thinking about synchronizing head movement with the movement of the game controller. I mean, if I turn my wheel to the left - the head (and in turn the 3d steering wheel) would turn to the left as well. The only thing is whether it is possible or not. I really hope it is.
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> Another thing ,which I know that can't be fixed,
> is that the 3d steering wheel is fitted to the
> helmet and ,as a result, it moves in a weird
> manner from time to time (you know...the wheel
> turns to the right while the car goes to the
> left). Those 3d wheels are a really strong point
> of the 1991 mod.
I am quoting myself as I have been thinking about it lately. Maybe it is possible to make 3d steering wheels move in a "normal" way ?
I am thinking about synchronizing head movement with the movement of the game controller. I mean, if I turn my wheel to the left - the head (and in turn the 3d steering wheel) would turn to the left as well. The only thing is whether it is possible or not. I really hope it is.
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