GP4 Track Editing - new new thread

Thanks Laurent, I hope someone can give me an example of what i need to be looking for, I'd rather be looking at Max's viewport than a wall of confusing text.
I don't fancy reverse engineering magic data.

F1Dev

here i post a cmagic4.ini file for the lines laurent mentioned (angle and position).
around there are some more new and unk values. maybe someone can hopefully find out some more secrets.

matt.

[descriptions]
desc1=fw ai dry
desc2=rw
desc3=1st
desc4=2nd
desc5=3rd
desc6=4th
desc7=5th
desc8=6th
desc9=fw ai wet
desc10=rw
desc11=1st
desc12=2nd
desc13=3rd
desc14=4th
desc15=5th
desc16=6th
desc17=fw
desc18=rw player dry
desc19=1st
desc20=2nd
desc21=3rd
desc22=4th
desc23=5th
desc24=6th
desc25=brake balance dry
desc26=fw player wet
desc27=rw
desc28=1st
desc29=2nd
desc30=3rd
desc31=4th
desc32=5th
desc33=6th
desc34=brake balence wet
desc35=hard tyre
desc36=soft tyre
desc37=>= 50 tyretype 1 else 0
desc38=unused
desc39=unused
desc40=unused
desc41=unused
desc42=track grip
desc43=unused
desc44=unused
desc45=down force, related to next value below
desc46=ride height
desc47=air resistance or air density??(prblanco)
desc48=fuel kg per lap*3000
desc49=subtracted from diff between field_e2 of 2 cars and then compared to speed of first car
desc50=tyre wear
desc51=increase of grip during a session (cc-cars only??) cc grip factor (added to car.field_108. related to cc grip factor)
desc52=grip finetune
desc53= cc power factor ace
desc54= cc grip factor ace
desc55= cc power factor pro
desc56= cc grip factor pro
desc57= cc power factor semi-pro
desc58= cc grip factor semi-pro
desc59= cc power factor amateur
desc60= cc grip factor amateur
desc61= cc power factor rookie
desc62= cc grip factor rookie
desc63= cc random perf range min
desc64= cc random perf range max
desc65=ai errors. same chance multiplied with race perc.
desc66=spin recovery range, 1 to 256
desc67=sectors to pit in 1
desc68=sectors to pit in 2
desc69=pre pit speed limit
desc70=fuel consumption player
desc71=fuel consumption ai
desc72=tyre grip wear rate (cc shuffler???)
desc73=a segment nr before which flag 0x80 in car.flags_ce is not cleared
desc74=timing factor? (dw)
desc75=timing factor finetune? (dw)
desc76=ai tyres
desc77=same as above (dw)
desc78=rain chance
desc79=segment nr (start of some range)
desc80=segment nr (end of some range)
desc81=ai race grip another perf factor
desc82=unk (dw)
desc83=unk (dw)
desc84=black flag penalty
desc85=black flag
desc86=unk (dw)
desc87=new (dw)
desc88=new (dw)
desc89=new (dw)
desc90=how deep in garage
desc91=new (dw)
desc92=new (dw)
desc93=orientation in garage (angle)
desc94=new (dw)
desc95=new (dw)
desc96=unk (dw) (always 16384?)
desc97=unk (dw) (always 16384?)
desc98=unk (dw) (always 16384?)
desc99=unk (dw) (always 16384?)
desc100=unk (dw) (always 16384?)
desc101=unk (dw) (always 16384?)
desc102=pitstop group 1 %
desc103=stop 1
desc104=pit window 1
desc105=
desc106=
desc107=
desc108=
desc109=
desc110=pitstop group 2 %
desc111=stop 1
desc112=pit window 1
desc113=stop 2
desc114=pit window 2
desc115=
desc116=
desc117=
desc118=pitstop group 3 %
desc119=stop 1
desc120=pit window 1
desc121=stop 2
desc122=pit window 2
desc123=stop 3
desc124=pit window 3
desc125=
desc126=failure chance : suspension
desc127=failure chance : loosewheel
desc128=failure chance : puncture
desc129=failure chance : engine
desc130=failure chance : transmission
desc131=failure chance : oilleak/waterleak
desc132=failure chance : throttle/brake
desc133=failure chance : electrics
desc134=unused
desc135=unused
desc136=unused
desc137=unused
desc138=bump factor
desc139=bump shift

Holy @#$%&!...see what I mean, thanks matt those are very helpful it will save me a lot of trial and error, but magic data needs a new interface.
Why is there no easier - to - understand UI for magic data ?

F1Dev

hi,

i cant create more than one camera in my .dat file.
it is possible that i change it?

You can import track cameras from other tracks into your dat file.

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My Grand Prix 4 Files
I'm a total dick. How many people can say that?

hey, i havent a problem with the cameras -.- in the gp4builder.
Error: sorry but cameras are ponting to missing sectors.

Seems that your last camera has a sector value in the box "View car to sector" which doesn't exist.

I can also take a look at your dat file if the above isn't clear enough.

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My Grand Prix 4 Files
I'm a total dick. How many people can say that?

Turbo Lover schrieb:
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> Seems that your last camera has a sector value in
> the box "View car to sector" which doesn't exist.
>
>
> I can also take a look at your dat file if the
> above isn't clear enough.

thanks, i found the error .

Turbo Lover schrieb:
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> You can import track cameras from other tracks
> into your dat file.


thank you, works perfect

not so long and i can release the india track

schroeder Wrote:
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desc90=how deep in garage
desc91=new (dw)
desc92=new (dw)
desc93=orientation in garage (angle)

Just to confirm, there's no way to move the cars position from side to side ? They are actually positioned too near the middle of the garage, as compared to real life scale.
I'd like to move each of the cars in a single garage closer to the external walls, creating a bigger central gap between the cars.

thx

F1Dev

Here's a visual of the problem.....not a biggie, but would it be nice to reposition them.





You can see om this 2010 garage, that the cars are much closer to the sides.



F1Dev



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2011 08:21PM by ramf1v.

> desc90=how deep in garage
> desc91=new (dw)
> desc92=new (dw)
> desc93=orientation in garage (angle)

Editing these values is having no effect for me, are you sure desc90 and desc93 control the position and angle ?
I loaded the magic data from Monaco into my dat, and the cars position moved forward, so the positions must be in another value ?

F1Dev

desc91= new (dw)Car Position in Garage
desc92= new (dw)Car Position in Garage
desc93= new (dw)Car Angle in Garage

For me both desc91 and 92 affect the depth position, and 93 the angle, I've just spent 4 hours testing values and can't find anything that affects the sideways positioning.
I'll edit the garage layout to fit the car position...it's easier.

F1Dev

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Very Great!!!!
Fantastic job ramf1v.
Professional.

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

Hi guys!

I'm a beginner in track editing, but I've learnt the basics from the 60 mins tutorial and the F1 Virtual step-by-step guides. I managed to get together a Monza 1971 beta (kind of like Pedro's betas of the Österreichring and Interlagos from the '70s). It's nice, the layout is precise, made based on Google Maps, only a few meter short of the real track length back then. It's awesome, really the king of the slipstream. : D There are a few things to do though, real pitlane, the asphalt run-off at Vialone, etc.

I don't have a problem with the pitlane, or the CC-line, the tough stuff got going well.

I have an annoying problem though: I chose 'Track from .dat' to make the mesh, and conversion went well, except for the tarmac. It showed a constant brownish surface at first, nothing for the second try (really funny to fly basically : D), and the brown texture for the third time as well. Meanwhile, I can see the original 2001 layout and pitlane below me with proper texture and stuff. Strange. I also set the banks to be tarmac, and it shows up there correctly. My new pitlane also shows up correctly. I used the X-mas edition of GP4 Builder, which felt a bit buggy, but this is another thread. I don't know if it has to do with it or not.

Sadly, I'm a total newbie in track making, so I really don't know where to go from here with this problem.

+ Related question: does it mess up CC-line to make the S/F straight 24-meter wide as it was in 1971 with wild changes in left and right track width?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Alright, I forgot to build .bin files, amateur error.

Now I got something, I REALLY cannot solve alone: when I want to have a slight banking (under the old oval), the track responds nicely to my input in Track Profiler, but the onboard cams can't seem to follow the car down. I get a top view for that few secs while the dip lasts in the track.

Any idea?

you forgot to build .col file, amateur error

edit : You will have to check if CC-line is working or not with such heavy changes. If it doesn't work correctly, you can try Action\Equalize Sector Centers. Make a copy of your work before doing it, we never know and this feature can't be cancelled.

edit2 : and BTW, this is the general thread for GP4Builder bug reports or as there's still a fresh thread for it, you can use this thread





Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2011 04:43PM by Lo2k.

Thank you very much Laurent, it was indeed as simple as creating a .col file.

I have yet another question.

I made a .dat (in fact modified an original, but was not the source of the problem in earlier and similar cases), then created .wad via 'Track from .dat' option.

When I try it ingame, it crashes while it loads.

The problem is with the conversion from .dat to .wad, because I tested the .dat alone with the original .wad and everything was fine.

What's wrong this time? (I sincerely hope it's another easy thing to solve.)

Please help. Thank you in advance.

I'm using GP4 Builder 1.705.

Edit:

- It's not the kerbs. I heard kerbs conversion is quite difficult to do, so I tried a conversion without kerbs, and one where I pre-deleted all kerbs from .dat itsself.
- It's not GP4 Builder 1.705. Or at least 1.540 behaves the same way.
- I modified Suzuka. (Restored 1982 layout.) Could it be down to the figure 8 of the track?

Anyone?

Edit2: GPxPatch log

Debug event: EXCEPTION_DEBUG_EVENT
First chance exception
Exception address: 0x005eb17c
Exception flags: 0x00000000
Exception code: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Process tried to read from virtual address 0x00000001
Debug event: EXCEPTION_DEBUG_EVENT
Unhandled exception
Exception address: 0x005eb17c
Exception flags: 0x00000000
Exception code: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Process tried to read from virtual address 0x00000001
Stack trace:
005EB17C: Program Files\Infogrames\Grand Prix 4\GPxPatch.exe! <no symbol>
004C79CA: Program Files\Infogrames\Grand Prix 4\GPxPatch.exe! <no symbol>
Registers:
EAX=00B47828 ECX=00000014 ESI=00000001
EBX=0000415A EDX=00122094 EDI=0065F0E0
CS:EIP=001B:005EB17C
SS:ESP=0023:0012EA04 EBP=0012EA10
DS=0023 ES=0023 FS=003B GS=0000
Flags=00010246
Stack dump:
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0012ea14: 004c79ca 00000001 0065f0e0 00000014 '.yL.......e.....'
0012ea24: 0b815ca0 0b31c034 00000000 00000000 '.\..4.1.........'
0012ea34: 00170000 009edce0 00000018 2c303431 '............140,'
0012ea44: 574f5243 72675f44 73646e61 646e6174 'CROWD_grandstand'
0012ea54: 5f615f35 6e727574 635f3131 72696168 '5_a_turn11_chair'
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0012ea74: 30303132 352d2c30 352e3632 39393634 '21000,-526.54699'
0012ea84: 30322c37 3237382e 0a303030 02f56200 '7,20.872000..b..'
0012ea94: 00000000 00000001 030ea338 00000000 '........8.......'
0012eaa4: 0012ff78 6a53cfc8 00000001 00000000 'x.....Sj........'
0012eab4: 00000000 02f56200 40000062 ffffffff '.....b..b..@....'
0012eac4: 0044e006 00000000 00000004 00000000 '..D.............'
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0012eae4: 00000000 0012ff78 7753e0ed 01ec91fd '....x.....Sw....'
0012eaf4: fffffffe 77575dd3 77575ae0 00000158 '.....]Ww.ZWwX...'
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0012eb24: 0000001b ffffffff 00000007 0064a3a0 '..............d.'
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0012eb44: 0012ede8 0b31bf4c 0b31c034 00000000 '....L.1.4.1.....'
0012eb54: 76f1fc00 0b815ca0 00000042 00000000 '...v.\..B.......'
0012eb64: 00000000 0012ff78 005eda3e 00000000 '....x...>.^.....'
0012eb74: 00497154 030ea338 0b31bd08 00000000 'TqI.8.....1.....'
0012eb84: 0b399830 07b97618 0012ede8 008f1fc0 '0.9..v..........'
0012eb94: 007eb27e 0012fa74 0066d90a 3f202d8c '~.~.t.....f..- ?'
0012eba4: bf4134ad be4a0408 00000000 00170000 '.4A...J.........'
0012ebb4: 00001ccb 3f202d8c bf4134ad be4a0408 '.....- ?.4A...J.'
0012ebc4: 00000490 00170180 0000007f 0000004d '............M...'
0012ebd4: 00000004 00170150 0000007f 09388fd8 '....P.........8.'
0012ebe4: 07d686a8 0000007f 06040002 00000047 '............G...'
0012ebf4: 06040002 0923b500 5d040059 09248bf0 '......#.Y..]..$.'
0012ec04: 00000000 06040002 0930ee08 00000b58 '..........0.X...'
0012ec14: 00000000 00000290 00000000 0000007f '................'
0012ec24: 07d68480 2070614d 6867696c 676e6974 '....Map lighting'
0012ec34: 63657620 20726f74 2e30203a 2c363236 ' vector : 0.626,'
0012ec44: 372e302d 2d2c3535 39312e30 38282037 '-0.755,-0.197 (8'
0012ec54: 20322e31 72676564 20736565 69726176 '1.2 degrees vari'
0012ec64: 65636e61 74697720 65472068 2766666f 'ance with Geoff''
0012ec74: 50472073 30322833 29293030 0000000a 's GP3(2000))....'
0012ec84: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00170000 '................'
0012ec94: 00000001 00170000 00170000 00000000 '................'
0012eca4: 00170000 00170000 01010063 0012ece0 '........c.......'
0012ecb4: 775e5896 00170000 00000000 0000021a '.X^w............'
0012ecc4: 00170000 00000001 0012ecfc 775e5896 '.............X^w'
0012ecd4: 00170000 00000000 0000021a 00170000 '................'
0012ece4: 00000001 00000004 00000000 092489c0 '..............$.'
0012ecf4: 00000000 00170000 0012ed44 775e611a '........D....a^w'
0012ed04: 00170138 775e60fe 76a96901 00000000 '8....`^w.i.v....'
0012ed14: 00000000 00170000 7753e0ed 00000000 '..........Sw....'
0012ed24: 092489c8 bf001225 b0a94000 3f5da95e '..$.%....@..^.]?'
0012ed34: 00000000 bf0feea7 3f42b064 bea65243 '........d.B?CR..'
0012ed44: 00000000 bf289314 bf263ab5 bec2cbfe '......(..:&.....'
0012ed54: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
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0012edc4: 001b00b0 0012edfc 7758f743 775f7380 '........C.Xw.s_w'
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2012 05:34PM by Atticus..

No way that nobody could & would help me.