2022 GP4 Time Trial League (F1virtual and friends) - Season Finished

Hello, regarding the last stage, analyzing the partials, I found that in the last partial I only lost to the leader, but in the 2nd partial I was too slow and the 1st was more or less. Regarding a new game configuration I think the fuel should be 50% (to test if it's enough), as for the FPS 30 I think it's nice and the car setup for me is totally free.

ksezen Wrote:
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> JCaranti Wrote:
>
> > Hi Kzesen.
> > I will participate in the quickraces if it does
> > not continue next year the TTL.
> >
> > But we must make rules in order to be fair and
> > possible to finish the races.
> >
> > I agree on Time Limited, uploading a notelpad
> file
> > and starting from P1.
> >
> > In most of the tracks in race format(not
> hotlap)
> > with a new updated tracks has produced very
> high
> > PO when raced in 60FPS,
> > in some tracks it would be imposible to do this
> > because of the size of the .wads and the 3d
> > included, not to mention if we use a the 2022
> mod
> > then
> > its even worst. So my suggestion we back down
> this
> > a bit to maybe 40 - 45 FPS.
> > If we dont do this just in the start of the
> race
> > we will hit over 100% of PO for sure and this
> will
> > show in
> > the overal race PO%, not in the single lap PO%,
> > you can watch this in Hoflapw 3.15.
> >
> > Lets say the fastests lap of the race is
> outside
> > the white lines i suggest a 2 second time
> penalty
> >
> >
> > Also to spice it up a bit would be nice that
> > within the race their is a mandatory pitstop
> >
> > Using the rules of the TTL about car settings
> we
> > must include to allow the use of packers,
> because
> > else in race format it would be very hard to
> > finish a race due to the plank wear
> > of the car, it would be almost imposible to
> drive
> > in some tracks after 7 or 8 laps.
> >
> > Other issue, in case we dont do a mandatory
> > pitstop then in some tracks the fuel consuption
> > must be edited because it consumes more than
> 1.1
> > per lap so in some cases putting
> > maximum fuel at the race it will not be enough
> to
> > finish the race.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Jorge.
>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> You can still participate in quickrace even TTL
> continues. In my sight i will not spend my time
> for best hotlap next season, i will do my laps in
> a limited time in quickrace and my race will be
> finshed for the week, and i will relax.
> I dont know anything about circuit edit, i was
> hoping to use the same tracks of TTL.
> We can lower the fps for a smooth play in PC, and
> make it 45fps for everyone.
> more complex car setups will also spend more time
> for adjust the best setup, so i am agains to it.
> simple setup option should be continue.
> Plank wear can be eliminate with mandotary
> pitstops. Fuel consumptions can also be
> predictable for finishing race after pitstop.
>
> So if TTL continues we will follow it as an
> addition to league. If TTL not continues, we can
> just use the same tracks of this season. Of course
> new circuit edits are welcome.
>
> I want to try in ABu-Dabi this quickrace, hope to
> see you there too.

Hi ksezen, Ok lets do that.

But we can still do a Quickrace in Interlagos taking advantange that we already have the track, the settings inside the game
and we are all familiar with the track so we dont need to learn it.

For sure I will have a go at it for Interlagos and it will be a good test to see the overal PO. I will run it with 45FPS.

EDIT:

I did the TL. You know where to find the files.

GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 45.0 FPS
Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (20%, 14 laps)
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
Car #2, driven by jorge (ferrari - ferrari)
Power: 855 BHP, weight 608 kg, fuel laps: 1.1
Race time after 14 lap(s): 0h17m03.434s pos 1, 14 lap(s) completed
Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
Fastest lap time: 1:12.447 pos 1 (split1 0:17.782, split2 0:55.154)

In this example the PO was less than the other tests that i did last week, because with the settings i had most of the overal PO was around 150%.
In this particular TL race i uploaded i had to turn my mirrors off and put 55minutes of replay.

So this is the first test.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2022 11:33AM by JCaranti.

I don't know yet if I can participate in the final round this season but I would like to have it at the new layout if possible
Lets see if I can participate more frequently next season if we continue the Time Trial League

Prblanco Scritto:
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> Guys, I'm building the new Yas Marina layout but
> I'm a bit late. If I don't finish it until
> Wednesday, would you prefer to run the older
> layout (by another author, tojepo for example) and
> keep the schedule or to delay the round by a week
> and run the new layout? (without buildings, same
> as Zandvoort)

new of course

Samuele
32BOBO32

JCaranti Wrote:
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>
> So this is the first test.


That is great Jorge! i looked at your saves. i will try soon also a quickrace. Anyone else can try too, i will use the datas for results, and may be a graphical result.
I wished you made a mandatory pitstop, but its cool at the moment.
I see there is "Last minute change" button before the race begin, and we can set the pitstop strategy and car setup.

i learned that Shift +L shows the plank and tyre wear. i wonder if plank wear resets after pitsops????

i will participate the results soon, everybody is wellcome for quickrace in Brazil.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2022 05:10PM by ksezen.

ksezen Wrote:
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> JCaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > So this is the first test.
>
>
> That is great Jorge! i looked at your saves. i
> will try soon also a quickrace. Anyone else can
> try too, i will use the datas for results, and may
> be a graphical result.
> I wished you made a mandatory pitstop, but its
> cool at the moment.
> I see there is "Last minute change" button before
> the race begin, and we can set the pitstop
> strategy and car setup.
>
> i learned that Shift +L shows the plank and tyre
> wear. i wonder if plank wear resets after
> pitsops????
>
> i will participate the results soon, everybody is
> wellcome for quickrace in Brazil.

Hi Ksezen !

I made another TL race but this time with a mandatory pitstop.

GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 45.0 FPS
Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (20%, 14 laps)
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
Car #2, driven by jorge (ferrari - ferrari)
Power: 855 BHP, weight 611 kg, fuel laps: 2.6
Race time after 14 lap(s): 0h17m21.116s pos 3, 14 lap(s) completed
Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
Fastest lap time: 1:12.034 pos 1 (split1 0:17.825, split2 0:54.796)

This time the overal PO went upto 150% but in the individual lap PO it looks normal in fact i manage to make it lower the
PO by by messing with the f1graphics.cfg and messing with windows settings power options to PERFORMANCE.

About the race, i forgot to save the fastest lap, but its a test .
In general the race could have been 5 seconds faster. Their is plenty of things to optimize
Overal happy and getting the adrenaline back !!

I will try again tomorrow another TL.


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For me it's ok a delay for a brand new Yas Marina version.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. Season finale is thus delayed by a week to get the new track ready.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2022 03:37PM by Prblanco.

JCaranti Wrote:
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> About the race, i forgot to save the fastest lap,
> but its a test .
> In general the race could have been 5 seconds
> faster. Their is plenty of things to optimize
> Overal happy and getting the adrenaline back !!
>
>
> I will try again tomorrow another TL.


In the real race we should keep in mind we have only one try (1 hour). people shouldnt miss understand. 1 try per race.

i did my test, however i lost too much time in pit, i dont know why, may be i afraid to hit walls so slow down... i will check it.

i did a simple excel file, and tried to show the time interval change with laps. everyone can look at the file in my folder.

i recognized that, after a day the files exact upload times cant seen. On the other i can see my own files upload times after right click and "manage versions" button.
it is just an issue of trust, we can overcome it in someway, no problem. maybe i can create drive folder as an admin than i can see upload times.
if anyone has an idea please inform me.

my race was cool, after pitstop i came back into a bit traffic, i lost times. i had choosen semi-pro difficulty, may be amateur difficulty suits best for pit stop.
racing with other cars also gives fun. and you need to think lots of things at once, pitstop, (pressing enter if not) , other cars places, sometimes yellow flags with others crashes.
it was really fun. but my advice is enlarge the length 25% or 30%, race seemed a bit short for 1 hour try. or we may shorted 1 hour.

Note: i remember that we should save the hotlap at pitstop, otherwise after pitstop the laps before pitstop will be deleted by game.
so if your hotlap is before pitstop, dont forget save it at pitstop, press pause and save.





Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2022 02:37PM by ksezen.

ksezen Wrote:
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> JCaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > About the race, i forgot to save the fastest
> lap,
> > but its a test .
> > In general the race could have been 5 seconds
> > faster. Their is plenty of things to optimize
>
> > Overal happy and getting the adrenaline back !!
>
> >
> >
> > I will try again tomorrow another TL.
>
>
> In the real race we should keep in mind we have
> only one try (1 hour). people shouldnt miss
> understand. 1 try per race.
>
> i did my test, however i lost too much time in
> pit, i dont know why, may be i afraid to hit walls
> so slow down... i will check it.
>
> i did a simple excel file, and tried to show the
> time interval change with laps. everyone can look
> at the file in my folder.
>
> i recognized that, after a day the files exact
> upload times cant seen. On the other i can see my
> own files upload times after right click and
> "manage versions" button.
> it is just an issue of trust, we can overcome it
> in someway, no problem. maybe i can create drive
> folder as an admin than i can see upload times.
> if anyone has an idea please inform me.
>
> my race was cool, after pitstop i came back into a
> bit traffic, i lost times. i had choosen semi-pro
> difficulty, may be amateur difficulty suits best
> for pit stop.
> racing with other cars also gives fun. and you
> need to think lots of things at once, pitstop,
> (pressing enter if not) , other cars places,
> sometimes yellow flags with others crashes.
> it was really fun. but my advice is enlarge the
> length 25% or 30%, race seemed a bit short for 1
> hour try. or we may shorted 1 hour.
>
> Note: i remember that we should save the hotlap at
> pitstop, otherwise after pitstop the laps before
> pitstop will be deleted by game.
> so if your hotlap is before pitstop, dont forget
> save it at pitstop, press pause and save.
>
> [ibb.co]

I know we have we have 1 try if it where in championship. But like i said its a test.
I am not new to TL ...
Since its a test, its good to adquiere more knowledge and practice for a possible Quickrace TL championship
then its good to do more tests. We dont score points for testing ...

I saw your race. I dont understand why you race in semi pro, You have less grip ... track modder knowledge.


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JCaranti Wrote:
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> I know we have we have 1 try if it where in
> championship. But like i said its a test.
> I am not new to TL ...
> Since its a test, its good to adquiere more
> knowledge and practice for a possible Quickrace TL
> championship
> then its good to do more tests. We dont score
> points for testing ...
>
> I saw your race. I dont understand why you race in
> semi pro, You have less grip ... track modder
> knowledge.

Hello Jorge,
So, while I'm actually telling you, I'm saying it for those who might misunderstand the format. sorry for the misunderstanding, it's my mistake from english.
You wrote that you are familiar with TL before.
People may be unfamiliar with TL and think, there is no trial limit.
The data you have given is very useful, and I agree on this matter, a lot of data is required to set up the system.
My experience with the track and the game is only as much as participating in a season or two 20 years ago. For example, I didn't know that sempro reduces traction. I was just trying to stay out of traffic, so I made it semi-pro. Then Ace should be best? but traffic really slows you down...

Thank you again for you help Jorge.

And anyone knows how i can add image to my posts, i add an url but image isn't seen.

ksezen Wrote:
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> JCaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > I know we have we have 1 try if it where in
> > championship. But like i said its a test.
> > I am not new to TL ...
> > Since its a test, its good to adquiere more
> > knowledge and practice for a possible Quickrace
> TL
> > championship
> > then its good to do more tests. We dont score
> > points for testing ...
> >
> > I saw your race. I dont understand why you race
> in
> > semi pro, You have less grip ... track modder
> > knowledge.
>
> Hello Jorge,
> So, while I'm actually telling you, I'm saying it
> for those who might misunderstand the format.
> sorry for the misunderstanding, it's my mistake
> from english.
> You wrote that you are familiar with TL before.
> People may be unfamiliar with TL and think, there
> is no trial limit.
> The data you have given is very useful, and I
> agree on this matter, a lot of data is required to
> set up the system.
> My experience with the track and the game is only
> as much as participating in a season or two 20
> years ago. For example, I didn't know that sempro
> reduces traction. I was just trying to stay out of
> traffic, so I made it semi-pro. Then Ace should be
> best? but traffic really slows you down...
>
> Thank you again for you help Jorge.
>
> And anyone knows how i can add image to my posts,
> i add an url but image isn't seen.

Hi Ksezen,
I havent done a TL since the end of 2008 in the F1VWC, so thats 14 years for me.
The difference between you and me is that i stayed around the gp4 community actively because i went from participating
in Gp4 leagues and transitioned to a Gp4 modder.
In between all that i released the 2007 CSM MOD, i released seasons of internal Steering wheels, etc, and then i went full on tracks.
Testing tracks that we relesed with my partiners and all my tracks updates that i released it required me to drive a bit also so that keept me going all these years.
Their were also a few non TL hotlaps championships like the one in Gp4central in 2017 that kept me going also for a few seasons but it did not follow any f1 calendar
and it was between 8 and 10 events only.

I will try today a TL with 30% of race distance. but i think we need to lower the FPS to 40 because in my case the overal PO goes over 100%
although each lap PO says the contrary.

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Hi Ksezen,

I did a 30% race distance with TL. I also lower a bit the FPS to 40 and it turns out the overal PO is 92%
and each lap the PO averages around 37% and 38%. This time i managed to save the fastest lap of the car.

GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 40.0 FPS
Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (30%, 21 laps)
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
Car #2, driven by jorge (ferrari - ferrari)
Power: 855 BHP, weight 608 kg, fuel laps: 1.5
Race time after 21 lap(s): 0h25m51.605s pos 1, 21 lap(s) completed
Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
Fastest lap time: 1:11.910 pos 1 (split1 0:17.765, split2 0:54.727)

About the race i started alright, not my fastest first lap but it was ok and then tried to cruce flat out
In the final lap of the first stint i had to pass several backmarkers in some scary low speed corners.
Then carme the pitstop witch i think it was fast(curious similar time to my 20% race with pistop)
and then it was a little scary getting out of the pits because i came out in 3rd place with the 2nd place car
less than half a second away!!!. So i had to pass that mclaren and then i went to challenge Schumacher in the next lap
for the lead of the race but this CC made it hard to pass and i lost 2 seconds in that lap. I went flat out again and in the 2 final laps it was
scary because i had to pass several Arrows cars(orange cars) in dificult places.
I tried to stay cool and i managed to bring home the car.

Pure Adrenaline !!! loved it !!.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2022 05:13PM by JCaranti.

JCaranti Wrote:
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> Hi Ksezen,
>
> I did a 30% race distance with TL. I also lower a
> bit the FPS to 40 and it turns out the overal PO
> is 92%
> and each lap the PO averages around 37% and 38%.
> This time i managed to save the fastest lap of the
> car.
>
> GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
> Level: Ace / Frame rate: 40.0 FPS
> Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (30%, 21
> laps)
> Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
> Car #2, driven by jorge (ferrari - ferrari)
> Power: 855 BHP, weight 608 kg, fuel laps: 1.5
> Race time after 21 lap(s): 0h25m51.605s pos 1,
> 21 lap(s) completed
> Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
> Fastest lap time: 1:11.910 pos 1 (split1
> 0:17.765, split2 0:54.727)
>
> About the race i started alright, not my fastest
> first lap but it was ok and then tried to cruce
> flat out
> In the final lap of the first stint i had to pass
> several backmarkers in some scary low speed
> corners.
> Then carme the pitstop witch i think it was
> fast(curious similar time to my 20% race with
> pistop)
> and then it was a little scary getting out of the
> pits because i came out in 3rd place with the 2nd
> place car
> less than half a second away!!!. So i had to pass
> that mclaren and then i went to challenge
> Schumacher in the next lap
> for the lead of the race but this CC made it hard
> to pass and i lost 2 seconds in that lap. I went
> flat out again and in the 2 final laps it was
> scary because i had to pass several Arrows
> cars(orange cars) in dificult places.
> I tried to stay cool and i managed to bring home
> the car.
>
> Pure Adrenaline !!! loved it !!.


I lost the subject, so are we all doing hotlaps and the race for the last event of the season ?

Hinyaldee Wrote:
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> I lost the subject, so are we all doing hotlaps
> and the race for the last event of the season ?

With Ksezen we are testing for a possible Quickrace TL championship next year.
Since Paulo was making the new layout of yas marina we decided to have a go at Interlagos TL race testing.

Also we are waiting on the famous announcement that Paulo is going to do when the season is finished, but he did
initially said he wont do a 3rd season of the TTL. So we have to wait and see what happens.

In the mean time we are enjoying these tests TL, you can join too.


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JCaranti Wrote:
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> Hinyaldee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I lost the subject, so are we all doing hotlaps
> > and the race for the last event of the season ?
>
>
> With Ksezen we are testing for a possible
> Quickrace TL championship next year.
> Since Paulo was making the new layout of yas
> marina we decided to have a go at Interlagos TL
> race testing.
>
> Also we are waiting on the famous announcement
> that Paulo is going to do when the season is
> finished, but he did
> initially said he wont do a 3rd season of the TTL.
> So we have to wait and see what happens.
>
> In the mean time we are enjoying these tests TL,
> you can join too.

OK, thanks for the explanation ! I might try if I can get the time, but it'll most likely be next week in-between my 1998 season of F1 :P

I had an quickrace trial for %30race. this is my result,
GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 45.0 FPS
Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (30%, 21 laps)
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
Car #10, driven by jacques villeneuve (bar - honda)
Power: 855 BHP, weight 611 kg, fuel laps: 2.5
Race time after 21 lap(s): 0h26m38.539s pos 10, 21 lap(s) completed
Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
Fastest lap time: 1:13.368 pos 1 (split1 0:17.996, split2 0:55.737)

i had a spin at 17th lap, but managed to continue.
i think i could do 1.13.5-1.14.00 in a clean race, when i push hard as in hotlap, there is a risk to loose control of car.
The race setups should be more reliable, i understood.
the race was reaaly fun, first i need to cache shumacher, than after pitstop i passed irvine and catched 2 more cars at p10, that l spinned and again catched irvine and passed.
at overall, i was almost 1,5 second slower than JCaranti every lap. and results can be seen graphically below.
More driver the race graph will be more exciting, and there will be a story of race...


Quickrace TL will be really enjoying event, i hope more people attend.

Very good Ksezen, you did really well with keyboard.

Over here i just finished a 50% distance race with 40Fps and i put 1 hour of replay.

GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 40.0 FPS
Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (50%, 36 laps)
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
Car #2, driven by jorge (ferrari - ferrari)
Power: 855 BHP, weight 608 kg, fuel laps: 1.4
Race time after 36 lap(s): 0h44m34.832s pos 1, 36 lap(s) completed
Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
Fastest lap time: 1:12.010 pos 1 (split1 0:17.756, split2 0:54.858)

The race was ok until lap 18 when a Minardi hit me in the back and made me spin in turn 3 and i lost 9 seconds aproximately
but lucky that it did not damage the car. Other than that their isnt much tell, just driving fast enought but not my finest.
Anyway i enjoyed. You know where to find the files.

I did this so their is more data for the posible quickrace TL champ.

Kind regards
Jorge.


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This is my last try as quickrace.
GP4 1.02 Saved game for track 4: interlagos
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 45.0 FPS
Race type: Quickrace Session: Race (30%, 21 laps)
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 0%
Car #10, driven by jacques villeneuve (bar - honda)
Power: 855 BHP, weight 606 kg, fuel laps: 0.5
Race time after 21 lap(s): 0h26m24.965s pos 6, 21 lap(s) completed
Qualify lap time: n/a pos 1 on grid
Fastest lap time: 1:13.426 pos 1 (split1 0:18.136, split2 0:55.884)

And this is an example graph if there were 3 racers.

Abu Dhabi track will (finally) go through some final checks tonight, so we will race at last.


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