2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***

Looking forward to this race, normally an entertaining event.

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Waiting for March.

Some Pictures from Canada which I have just found:









2007 would have been added to this list had the scandals not taken place (the 15 points from Hungary would have put McLaren on 218 with Ferrari on 204).

Click here for the full gallery.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/2010 09:13AM by alexf1man.

No it wouldn't. Ferrari would've still won had McLaren not been expelled from the championship.

Yep, Ferrari did win both Championships that year anyway by about a point or two after their 1-2 at Interlagos.

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It is easy to make that mistake considering the final point scores, but they were also docked some points for the Hungary fiasco, which I myself forgot to consider a few months ago here.

It is quite amazing that McLaren haven't won a constructors title for so long now.

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X (@ed24f1)

1999 should have been Mclarens as well, Ferrari got to keep the 1-2 in Sepang and all points gained. I think Mclaren lost points Mika got in Austria due to a seal? cannot fully remember tbh.



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> 1999 should have been Mclarens as well, Ferrari
> got to keep the 1-2 in Sepang and all points
> gained. I think Mclaren lost points Mika got in
> Austria due to a seal? cannot fully remember tbh.


in austria he had a contact with coulthard,but finished 3rd if i remember well.but they could win the title in suzuka,but coulthard retired.So they lost it by 4 points(128 ferrari(schumacher,irvine and salo)and 124 macca(hakkinen and coulthard))

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The white rectangle is also now gone from the Ferrari, so Marlboro's title sponsorship is all that remains...

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X (@ed24f1)

Just starting to watch FP1 now, and it looks a lot smoother (several sections have been resurfaced, though primarily on the apex of corners) and they've tarmaced some run-off areas.

yes, that is disappointing - but at least the barriers are still close, unlike Turkey for example.

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BBC stream not working... useless so & sos...

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Just watching 2nd practise.

Lewis looks like he is gonna crash any second, really throwing the car around. Button is so smooth and faster.

Edit well he was faster lol.



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marcl Wrote:
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> Just watching 2nd practise.
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> Lewis looks like he is gonna crash any second,
> really throwing the car around. Button is so
> smooth and faster.
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> Edit well he was faster lol.

wow, i cant remember when was the last time if at all that i've seen Lewis so frustrated

[f1.gpupdate.net]

it seems as if it was a general probelm with everybody... whoever solves the puzzle will get the prize!! :-P

qualy is going to be interesting, at least we can all watch it.. no world cup game in between! )



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Both lewis and MS looked like they were gonna spin at just about ever corner, the way the mclaren is dancing around under power is not very good.

If it is like that on Sunday there are going to be a few safety cars.

What I am finding interesting is HRT have done next to no development work on their car yet they seem on par with Virgin. I think this shows what many people said wind tunnels are still needed and you can not rely on computers.

LH, MS .. their styles of driving is very uncertain and unpleasant yet effective just like senna.

As i hope for saturday afternoon, 1-2Ferrari,3-5Mclaren,4-6 Redbull.

SchueyFan Wrote:
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> It is quite amazing that McLaren haven't won a
> constructors title for so long now.

Yeah, it does surprise you a bit to see the big gaps between some of their title-winning years too. Because there have been a few years when they only won Drivers' titles(1976, 1986, 1999, 2008) and they've always tended to win races in the other years too and have a fast car for at least part of the season, their list of actual Constructors' titles seems a bit short somehow when you look at it.


marcl Wrote:
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> Both lewis and MS looked like they were gonna spin
> at just about ever corner, the way the mclaren is
> dancing around under power is not very good.

I'm looking forward to seeing Lewis in quali and the race. IMO this is Lewis's strongest track on the calendar; if he can whoop the whole field anywhere it'll be here.
I'm looking forward to seeing MS too, this is just the kind of track where he should be able to drag the Merc up above its level. It'll be his best chance so far this season to get a podium.

Speaking of MS, I liked how the mechanics were apparently servicing his car with a Henry the Hoover. :D

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What I am finding interesting is HRT have done next to no development work on their car yet they seem on par with Virgin. I think this shows what many people said wind tunnels are still needed and you can not rely on computers.

I think it's too early to judge their system completely. I realise they said that in theory they can design and test parts quicker than those who use more traditional methods, but the system itself has to be improved first.

You have to keep in mind that it's a new process (to F1 any least) and not developed in any way. It's still a very green approach.

They're not a big team. Despite the headline-grabbing title sponsor, there were constant rumours in the winter that they'd need more sponsorship to see out the season.

It looked horrible in the winter (fun, but horrible), but then they had so little running that it was rather difficult to improve the car.



I think there is method in the madness as clearly they're not a million miles behind the other 'developed' new-comer, which has a lot of data from previous teams, but access to a super computer would be of huge benefit to this system, and I'd be staggered if they can afford to rent one. Even Sauber still have one of the best super computers in the sport and when it was built in the early or mid-2000s they were hardly one of the best teams financially.

Had a team like McLaren tried this method they'd have had a lot more success with it, just through the resources they'd have available to them. Looking at Virgin, a McLaren wouldn't have just fallen to the back of the grid - they'd at worst be comfortably in the midfield, which might still have been an improvement over 2009. :D



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It wasnt by choice they have had no tunnel development. It was a cost issue.

I expected more development parts to come out from the team with their method but Lotus really are showing them the way as a team.

And Gav, i thought they had perhaps one of the better computer systems given how crucial it is for their development?

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And Gav, i thought they had perhaps one of the better computer systems given how crucial it is for their development?

I've seen nothing to mention a particular computer setup, but I've certainly never read that they've got a super computer. Like I say, even the smaller independent teams half a decade ago either buy or rent super computers, so not having one is going to severely hamper a team who relies on computers for their entire design and testing process.



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> Even Sauber still have one of the best super
> computers in the sport and when it was built in
> the early or mid-2000s they were hardly one of the
> best teams financially.

Was this super computer brought in to replace(or help replace) a seriously outdated wind tunnel from circa 1945 which they used to have? If so, I think it would've been built sometime during the 2003 season.

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