2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***

Posted by matt3454 
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 13, 2010 11:06PM
Posted by: gav
STOP CALLING HIM JAMIE FFS.

Hopefully most of us are impartial, so will give a textual roasting where we see it fit. In my opinion, the only thing MS did wrong was the Massa incident (which he should have been punished for, be it suspended or not). He didn't block Kubica - he moved once and left it up to Kubica whether to pursue or not. Kubica was entirely to blame for the chicane itself in my opinion - MS did well to avoid a collision.

I honestly can't remember what Jaime did wrong. Was it moving across on a Williams into the hairpin early on (Rubens I think)?
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 13, 2010 11:10PM
Posted by: Slash
marcl, Hulkenberg did the same with Pedro and nobody created any drama
is not Lewis vs Michael, i don't know why you come up with that

all we're saying is that Michael is under fire without justice

other driver behave the same out there and nobody went over dramatic about it
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 13, 2010 11:22PM
Posted by: marcl
Sorry Slash is just one of my mates is a huge MS fan and every single little thing Lewis and some other do he goes into one. All over FB twitter and everywhere.

Yet today he cannot see that MS done anything wrong. I was quite angry when I wrote that am no longer :)

Gav I dont think the 2nd part of Kubica MS was that bad, but I do not think MS should have put him on the grass thats the part I do not agree with. And yes sorry its Jaime, spell checker on Safari :)
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 01:26AM
Posted by: shep34
I dare say Schuey should take himself to the Montreal casino (assuming there is one!!) and lay his race earnings on the table, as his luck is running at a high after today's race. Several very questionable incidents, which in years gone by, probably would have given him a drive-thru penalty at the minimum. On today's race alone, Schuey showed signs of a man really struggling to perform in a lacklustre car, whilst still thinking he is/was the World Champ back in his Ferrari days... time to announce a retirement after his home German GP.....lol

As for the race overall, pretty good! Great first half. Webber brutally unlucky, yet again. The gearbox change and the subsequent grid penalty sure hurt him. Had he started from the original 2nd place, I think the win would have been his. He would have cleared off from Hamilton early, and built a gap big enough to manage the rest of the field, reacting to whatever took place behind him.... but, sadly that didn't happen.
Only real down side of the race, was having to be shown Lewis' gold digging girlfriend during the coverage (although that did take 41 laps to happen!! LOL)
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 05:05AM
Posted by: Guimengo
I don't feel I have to write anything as a lot of people have covered good ground.

Hulkenberg, Liuzzi, Petrov, Schumacher, and Kubica did very dodgy things today. I'm not putting Hamilton here because he was at the very end of the pitlane and didn't drive over the blue line for long, though I didn't approve of him taking that line and then being all over the outer white line, however Alonso kept the position so no harm done.

I really thought Fittipaldi would have taken some action :(.
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 09:04AM
Posted by: alexf1man
Click here to find timing information from the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix. This will change to the 2010 European Grand Prix around Thursday 24th or Friday 25th.



Race leaders:

Hamilton: 1 - 6; 15 - 25; 50 - 70
Vettel: 7 - 13
Buemi: 14
Alonso: 26 - 27
Webber: 28 - 49

Compare the Lap Chart above with the one from Spain 2010 (Below) and you will clearly see the difference.





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Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 10:04AM
Posted by: alexf1man
Some pictures from the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix:

The ESPN F1 gallery



The grandprix.com gallery



Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 10:24AM
Posted by: gav
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 10:45AM
Posted by: senna9194
Anyone notice this?
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Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 02:07PM
Posted by: EC83
Anyone else unable to see that whole photo because the edge of the page cuts it off?

@Gav: Yum. Seems the reporters for other TV channels are always so much hotter than ours. Shame there seem not to be any pics of Tanja. ;)



Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 02:24PM
Posted by: gav
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EC83
@Gav: Yum. Seems the reporters for other TV channels are always so much hotter than ours. Shame there seem not to be any pics of Tanja.

It wasn't her looks I was referring to. ;-)



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Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 02:31PM
Posted by: EC83
Ah yeah. I actually did notice that but for some reason(probably because it wasn't an English name) overlooked it totally.

Damn, my innuendo radar isn't usually that bad.



Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 05:57PM
Posted by: Slash
gav Wrote:
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> > @Gav: Yum. Seems the reporters for other TV
> channels are always so much hotter than ours.
> Shame there seem not to be any pics of Tanja.
>
>
> It wasn't her looks I was referring to. ;-)

EC83 Wrote:
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> Ah yeah. I actually did notice that but for some
> reason(probably because it wasn't an English name)
> overlooked it totally.
>
> Damn, my innuendo radar isn't usually that bad.

hahhaha!, how sick our minds are!! ;)
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 09:14PM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
guys just one question :
schumacher was battling with kubica before the 1 st pit stops for 5 th place,, and kubica was about a second ahead right. then robert pitted, put fresh rubber and put some laps with the new tyres and despite that michael got out ahead of him . so, this means to say to all that critisice him that schumi definately had the speed in that mercedes, up to the accident.

...or am i in a mistake ?
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 14, 2010 09:46PM
Posted by: marcl
Yes MS had the pace up to that point.

No one is having a go about his speed in the race, more about that stupid on track actions.
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 15, 2010 01:29AM
Posted by: rapid_f1
in the pre season show brundle and dc said ms racecraft would be rusty. legard disagreed and brundle and dc were right.

one pre question has been solved, how will ms feel racing ferraris? yes, punt them off the road!

alonso is driving as well as I have seen him, in not the fastest car.

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Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 15, 2010 02:16AM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
again i have to disagree with you my friend :) . For example :
1) 1994 and 1997 getting hill and almost villeneuve out of the race
2)1995 the nurburging grand prix where he put hill on the grass while fighting with him for the championship.
3)1998 the accident with DC in Argentina and Spa
4) 2001 AUstria + 2004 imola + 2002 brazil (braking the front wing of montoya)

....and many many other examples of just how schumacher was racing/ defending -----> BRUTAL ! ON THE LIMIT ! WITH NO RESPECT TO ANY OF THE REST !
and yes, he made a lot of accidents, just like it happens today . so what. has anything chaged. i would say ABSOLUTELY NO! :) only people are moaning all the time that schumi is not the same Accept it. Michael is back, with all his motivation and soon he will be on top. I am sure about that

P.S. a big schumi fan i am, you got that right :) But you cant deny the fact that in the last couple of races he totaly outraced nico, (got disqualified in monaco unfortnatelly) and even here he was going better until the kubica accident. So why is everybody moaning how slow and unneeded he is at Mercedes?
Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 15, 2010 04:28AM
Posted by: Slash
theproblem is the standar he set...

if this was Villeneuve's comeback, many would be parising how quick he adjusted to the new rules and car and team and all..

i think Michael is not enjoying the same luck he had at Ferrari, that's for sure, but he's doing a good job, yes he was out of Q3, but so has Alonso, Jenson, Hamilton and it'll probably happen again to either one of them.

up until the incident with Kubica he was doing a great job with that Mercedez, and i have to agree, Michael is racing as if he was still 20 years old, so that's great to watch, a lot of drivers changed with age, they tend to be more carefull and all, but Michael is not pussying out to any of these young guns...

i can only compare Michael's performance with Jenson, they both switched teams after being a looong time with their previous.. and i think Jenson is doing the better job... but he has everything in his favour, starting with probably the best or second best car on the grid and he never stopped racing and all, whereas Michael has everything new to learn

i see nothing wrong with the Liuzzi incident...if anything Liuzzi was being a bit too optimistic.. his first move was good, but Michael gave him room and both had a nice battle, for the second one Michael outbraked him but Liuzzi still tried the pass and he took the corner as if he was all alone even without having the car in front of Michael's... Michael avoided a collision again and unfurtunately that cost him 2 places





with Kubica. wow i see it again and it's incredible what Kubica was trying there.... Michael avoided another collision... this is the sorft of move that could've ended both races right there





and the Massa incident





well... i'd say this is pretty close.. Massa was not side by side at any point, and it's very common for the driver in front to return to the racing line when getting close to the corner.. this video is good because it shows Massa's braking point the lap before when he was pushing very hard to get close to Michael.... Massa braked in the same area whilst having Michael's car in frontthe lap after... as we all know Michael had 30+laps with the soft tyres and usually when you're following another driver you tend to be a little safe under braking

i think that even if Michael woudl've stayed on the inside, Massa would've not made the corner



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Re: 2010 Canadian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: June 15, 2010 08:25AM
Posted by: gav
Looking at that onboard, the Massa incident isn't as bad as I thought. I thought Massa was more alongside Schumacher and that Schumacher was trying to squeeze him.

The sporting rules do state that it's up to the guy behind to avoid a collision (providing you're not brake-tested), but then it's not very bright to move across the track when entering a braking zone.

It was very honest of Massa to just say that MS had braked earlier than he expected, as that's exactly what it looked like. He wasn't trying to squeeze Massa, just come back across the track before turn in.

Stupid still, but I can see why he wasn't given a penalty now.


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rapid_f1
in the pre season show brundle and dc said ms racecraft would be rusty. legard disagreed and brundle and dc were right.

I think the vast majority of his race craft this season has been exceptional. There's always a few spikes with MS (what would be the point of returning if he wasn't still MS?), but his defending of position has been brilliant for the most part - China against Hamilton for instance was a lesson to the rest of the grid, world champions included.
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