suspended mclaren employee is mike coughlan
Posted by f1fan17
Mclarens speed is down to that they had much to learn and learnt it quick.
Ferrari had the least to learn with the tyres so the performance they could gain from them was minimal, where is with Mclaren, the tyres were priority number1 because the possible performance gain was HUGE. Ferraris performance with the tyres would come to a maximum alot sooner than Mclarens.
simple.
As it happened, the fastest Michelin runner were the Mclarens from day1 of testing the 07 tyres. As BAR were the fastest michelin runner in 04 from their switch.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Ferrari had the least to learn with the tyres so the performance they could gain from them was minimal, where is with Mclaren, the tyres were priority number1 because the possible performance gain was HUGE. Ferraris performance with the tyres would come to a maximum alot sooner than Mclarens.
simple.
As it happened, the fastest Michelin runner were the Mclarens from day1 of testing the 07 tyres. As BAR were the fastest michelin runner in 04 from their switch.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
The Bridgestone tyres used this year are very different to the previous generation. In fact, I'm told they're alot like the 2001 generation of tyres, which McLaren used that year. The tyres weren't designed around the Ferrari F2007, so they also had to make changes. McLaren are a big organisation with some very clever people.
BMW haven't really struggled to change over. Renault have, but only because their suspension was designed by Michelin for Michelin. Besides, the fundamentals of the Mp4-22 were finalised well before the Ferrari documents were leaked. You can't go and copy Ferrari's layout as it wouldn't work. Every team acknowledges that its the easiest thing in the world to go and exactly copy someone else's design, but it won't work because it wasn't specifically designed for their car.
BMW haven't really struggled to change over. Renault have, but only because their suspension was designed by Michelin for Michelin. Besides, the fundamentals of the Mp4-22 were finalised well before the Ferrari documents were leaked. You can't go and copy Ferrari's layout as it wouldn't work. Every team acknowledges that its the easiest thing in the world to go and exactly copy someone else's design, but it won't work because it wasn't specifically designed for their car.
It's not a question of copying a design but rather a question of possibly knowing very accurately what you're up against.
Such as having real data and not estimated for any simulations.
Such as having real data and not estimated for any simulations.
i thought these tyres were similar to the 2004 tyres.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Muks_C Wrote:
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> i thought these tyres were similar to the 2004
> tyres.
apparently they are... and yet still after 3 years of development the 04 cars are still quicker.
shows how pitch sensitive f1 cars have become.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
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> i thought these tyres were similar to the 2004
> tyres.
apparently they are... and yet still after 3 years of development the 04 cars are still quicker.
shows how pitch sensitive f1 cars have become.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
They have 4/5 of the 2004 engine displacement
it's not really a surprise that the '04 cars are quicker than todays cars, Chet. the tyres are only similar in terms of design and construction philosophy (i.e. they're made to be used for 20-or-so laps, as opposed to a full race and qually session like the '05/'06 tyres), but of course the grip level has been reduced to slow the cars down (well, to make sure they don't go any faster as they naturally will do when tech regs stay the same).
the tyres during '04 were on the very edge of grip and performance because both manufacturers pushed all the boundaries to beat the other one, but now with just 1 supplier, the FIA told them to make tyres 2 or 3 seconds slower than when there was a tyre war, so while they're similar to '04 tyres, they're nowhere near the performance. so while the car technology has gone forward in 3 years, the tyre technolgy has gone backwards from 2004 to around 2000 or 2001.
plus the smaller, rev-limited engines as TripleM suggested.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/14/2007 09:52PM by Muks_C.
the tyres during '04 were on the very edge of grip and performance because both manufacturers pushed all the boundaries to beat the other one, but now with just 1 supplier, the FIA told them to make tyres 2 or 3 seconds slower than when there was a tyre war, so while they're similar to '04 tyres, they're nowhere near the performance. so while the car technology has gone forward in 3 years, the tyre technolgy has gone backwards from 2004 to around 2000 or 2001.
plus the smaller, rev-limited engines as TripleM suggested.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/14/2007 09:52PM by Muks_C.
Who's to say that the media had a look at the actual affidavit?
People sometimes get unsolicited mail. It's hardly a reason to get somebody suspended (looking from McLaren's POW of course).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2007 03:15PM by tripleM.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2007 03:15PM by tripleM.
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