Space, The Final Frontier.

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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 14, 2009 02:32PM
Posted by: mortal
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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 15, 2009 07:00PM
Posted by: Red Sam
If we can get ourselves one of these, we can be there in no time!





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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 15, 2009 10:37PM
Posted by: chet
Even with one of them it would take billions of years, or millions...either way!

Even in that it would take over a 100 years to span just the Milky Way!






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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 15, 2009 10:56PM
Posted by: Red Sam
Well, given the choice of a nice comfy seat next to Capt Picard, or a tin can from 20th Century, I know which one I'd take!



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 15, 2009 11:54PM
Posted by: senninho
chet Wrote:
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> Even with one of them it would take billions of
> years, or millions...either way!
>
> Even in that it would take over a 100 years to
> span just the Milky Way!

Yup, the entire Star Trek 'universe' (for want of a better term) is set within the Milky Way. Maybe a little help from Q would do it ;)



Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 12:09AM
Posted by: n00binio
from the wiki entry on steven hawking and his guest role in star trek:
When taking a tour of the set, he paused at the Warp core, smiled, and said, "I'm working on that." During the tour, Hawking requested, and was allowed, to sit in the captain's chair of the Enterprise-D.

maybe we won't have to wait long to fly such a thing ;)



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 01:01AM
Posted by: chet
Haha! It's certainly a possible solution to faster than light travel, just only requiring energy we certainly dont have, and wont have for a looooong while :(!

However, possibily more exciting things could happen in our lifetime, the existance of parallel universes could be proved when this LHC gets up and running, of course it will take a while but soon (and isnt that an amazing mindblowing thought!).

I reckon within the next two decades we will have discovered a number of planets we could call home, and therefore knowing where can point our telescopes to talk to ET in this vast sky! If not within 20years then certainly 40 years I reckon will recieve either by chance or deliberate ET communication.

Kinda makes the return to the moon and mission mars seem so... pointless. Past life and possible microbial life is bore, I say let's forget mars and start alien hunting but when considering the huge distances even radio waves at lightspeed is a turtles pace.






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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 01:50AM
Posted by: n00binio
chet schrieb:
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> Haha! It's certainly a possible solution to faster
> than light travel, just only requiring energy we
> certainly dont have, and wont have for a looooong
> while :(!
>
> However, possibily more exciting things could
> happen in our lifetime, the existance of parallel
> universes could be proved when this LHC gets up
> and running, of course it will take a while but
> soon (and isnt that an amazing mindblowing
> thought!).

i'd be happy if they just find the higgs boson ;)
but seriously, that's what i like in science: at the beginning you never know what you end up with and these special moments when you have absolutely no idea what's going on and you're just saying "what the hell" and after a bit thinking you get the idea behind it (or someone explains it to you :)) are really worth it

> I reckon within the next two decades we will have
> discovered a number of planets we could call home,
> and therefore knowing where can point our
> telescopes to talk to ET in this vast sky! If not
> within 20years then certainly 40 years I reckon
> will recieve either by chance or deliberate ET
> communication.

seems a bit optimistic to me but we'll see. i wouldn't complain if that happened

> Kinda makes the return to the moon and mission
> mars seem so... pointless. Past life and possible
> microbial life is bore, I say let's forget mars
> and start alien hunting but when considering the
> huge distances even radio waves at lightspeed is a
> turtles pace.

i don't think it's pointless at all, it's a matter of experience. these steps seem to be small indeed but imo they are necessary to accomplish even cooler things in future times. apart from that it's part of human nature to do such things. imagining impossible problems and solve them is what we like and do in a successful manner.



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 03:18AM
Posted by: Ferrari2007
chet Wrote:
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> within 20years then certainly 40 years I reckon
> will recieve either by chance or deliberate ET
> communication.

Just as long as they don't want to kill us then that is awesome



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 04:05AM
Posted by: mortal
NASA will not be returning to the Moon anytime soon. Some say how can they return when they never went in the first place. They've been warned off. ;-)
There is an alien base on the far side, massive buildings, towers and domes. All the NASA pics have been shopped, and the only pics from the Indian probe released so far have been from the nearside.
As for Mars, there's a new rover mission planned. Pointless to send humans there when a robot can do it a lot cheaper.
NASA has not got the money, there's no way the US public or congress would hand over 100 billion. NASA is handing out 50 billion to private enterprise to get a heavy lifter. The shuttles are so out of date and they can't justify spending money on them. The Russians are now relying on space tourists to fund their program.
The chemical fueled rocket was perfected by the Germans (V2 etc.) and since then very little has changed. Everything has improved except rocket technology, you would think that over 50 years we'd have discovered a better way of doing it. I think we have, and they are just not telling us. Getting out of earth orbit is prohibitively expensive, and lifting a 20 tonne payload even more so.
It will be left to private enterprise to do the job.
Maybe one day we'll get disclosure on the alien technology that exists, but that's a huge can of worms, release a new energy system onto the planet and the economy will fail as it's driven by the oil interests.
Imagine how the world would change if oil was no longer the source of energy and if all energy was free. Countries whose sole source of income is petro dollars would fail, there would be war on a global scale.
Bring on the DOOM. ;)

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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 01:05PM
Posted by: n00binio
lol where do you get these strange ideas from? maybe you're an alien and you want to prohibit us from visiting your home world ;)



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 01:48PM
Posted by: mortal
Check out the Secret Space videos. :-)

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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 16, 2009 11:53PM
Posted by: n00binio
i fear that would cost me some brain cells ;)



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 17, 2009 01:06AM
Posted by: Enjoi
would just like to say thanks to The Lopper! I read that Bill Bryson extract you posted and asked for the book for my birthday. My GF likes Bill Bryson and so does my mum so I've heard of his books but there hasn't been one that I've been interested in reading 'til this one. Only a few pages in but it's good so far, cheers!



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 18, 2009 12:52PM
Posted by: The Lopper
mortal Wrote:
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> NASA will not be returning to the Moon anytime
> soon. Some say how can they return when they never
> went in the first place. They've been warned off.
> ;-)
> There is an alien base on the far side, massive
> buildings, towers and domes. All the NASA pics
> have been shopped, and the only pics from the
> Indian probe released so far have been from the
> nearside.
> As for Mars, there's a new rover mission planned.
> Pointless to send humans there when a robot can do
> it a lot cheaper.
> NASA has not got the money, there's no way the US
> public or congress would hand over 100 billion.
> NASA is handing out 50 billion to private
> enterprise to get a heavy lifter. The shuttles are
> so out of date and they can't justify spending
> money on them. The Russians are now relying on
> space tourists to fund their program.
> The chemical fueled rocket was perfected by the
> Germans (V2 etc.) and since then very little has
> changed. Everything has improved except rocket
> technology, you would think that over 50 years
> we'd have discovered a better way of doing it. I
> think we have, and they are just not telling us.
> Getting out of earth orbit is prohibitively
> expensive, and lifting a 20 tonne payload even
> more so.
> It will be left to private enterprise to do the
> job.
> Maybe one day we'll get disclosure on the alien
> technology that exists, but that's a huge can of
> worms, release a new energy system onto the planet
> and the economy will fail as it's driven by the
> oil interests.
> Imagine how the world would change if oil was no
> longer the source of energy and if all energy was
> free. Countries whose sole source of income is
> petro dollars would fail, there would be war on a
> global scale.
> Bring on the DOOM. ;)

You know, it's exactly what the world needs to get space travel going again. A good oul' war. Bring on the DOOM! ;-)

Oh, and it's always a pleasure to promote the goodness that is Bill Bryson. Hope you enjoy, err...Enjoi ;)
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 18, 2009 01:58PM
Posted by: chet
n00binio Wrote:
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i don't think it's pointless at all, it's a matter
> of experience. these steps seem to be small indeed
> but imo they are necessary to accomplish even
> cooler things in future times. apart from that
> it's part of human nature to do such things.
> imagining impossible problems and solve them is
> what we like and do in a successful manner.


Thats true actually. I guess it would be kinda cool for humans to have stepped foot on another planet in our solar system. I do like the idea of one day people possibly calling the Mars home!






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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 18, 2009 05:04PM
Posted by: n00binio
chet schrieb:
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> Thats true actually. I guess it would be kinda
> cool for humans to have stepped foot on another
> planet in our solar system. I do like the idea of
> one day people possibly calling the Mars home!

that would be really really great. too bad money plays an important role in such projects. i wonder what cool stuff we could do if we spent less money on weapons and war...



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: September 03, 2009 11:43AM
Posted by: mortal
Came across some great pics. [www.uniquescoop.com]

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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: September 03, 2009 12:35PM
Posted by: chet
very nice... pictures like that, the nebulas, are they shown with all filters, like so we can see the whole spectrum basically, and not just the visible light? So infra-red, radio, gamma etc?

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This one is a picture in 7's astrometrics lab in Voyager ;)!

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So is the top of the far left pillar :p






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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: September 03, 2009 01:17PM
Posted by: n00binio
great pics indeed. the black hole and the super nova 1987A are impressive

edit: you're right chet, if you take a telescope and look at these objects they won't appear that colourful. the pics don't necessarily contain all wavelenghts from IR to UV. many pics are origially only UV or another part of the spectrum. a common technique is to take pics with 3 or 4 cameras - one for special part of the spectrum - and merge them afterwards. the process of colouring them is quite complicated if i remember correctly but in short you assign a visible colour to every wavelenght in the pic. the results are the pics that are released. relatively useless from a scientific point of view but they look cool.



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