Space, The Final Frontier.

Posted by mortal 
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 22, 2009 12:13PM
Posted by: mortal
The planned October 9, 2009 bombing of the moon by a NASA orbiter that will bomb the moon with a 2-ton kinetic weapon to create a 5 mile wide deep crater as an alleged water-seeking and lunar colonization experiment, is contrary to space law prohibiting environmental modification of celestial bodies. The NASA moon bombing, a component of the LCROSS mission, may also trigger conflict with known extraterrestrial civilizations on the moon as reported on the moon in witnessed statements by U.S. astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong, and in witnessed statements to NSA (National Security Agency) photos and documents regarding an extraterrestrial base on the dark side of the moon.

If the true intent of the LCROSS mission moon bombing is a hostile act by NASA against known extraterrestrial civilizations and settlements on the moon, then NASA and by extension the U.S. government are guilty of aggressive war which is the most serious of war crimes under the U.N. Charter and the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is subject. The U.N. Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. has ratified, requires that “ The moon and other celestial bodies shall be used by all States Parties to the Treaty exclusively for peaceful purposes. The establishment of military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military manoeuvres on celestial bodies shall be forbidden.” 98 nations have ratified and 125 nations have signed the U.N. Outer Space Treaty.

NASA’s LCROSS (Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite) mission

The NASA LCROSS (Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite) mission, which departed on Earth on June 18, 2009. According to one report, “Flying over the moon's southern hemisphere, LCROSS will use its high-precision instruments, as well as close-up images of the terrain gathered by the lunar orbiter, to seek out a crater just shallow enough and dark enough to be a prime bombing target.

“There, acting as what the Ames team calls its "shepherding spacecraft," LCROSS will guide an empty Centaur rocket weighing two tons toward its target. The rocket will crash into the crater at 5,600 mph, creating a new crater - perhaps as large as 5 miles wide. The crash is scheduled to occur Oct. 9.”

The two-ton Centaur rocket qualifies as a space-based kinetic weapon. The reason alleged by NASA for the mission is that “the [LCROSS} probes will map possible landing sites and search for water sources that could be used by a future lunar colony.”

According to NASA, “The Mission Objectives of the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS) include confirming the presence or absence of water ice in a permanently shadowed crater at the Moon’s South Pole. The identification of water is very important to the future of human activities on the Moon. LCROSS will excavate the permanently dark floor of one of the Moon’s polar craters with two heavy impactors in 2009 to test the theory that ancient ice lies buried there. The impact will eject material from the crater’s surface to create a plume that specialized instruments will be able to analyze for the presence of water (ice and vapor), hydrocarbons and hydrated materials.”


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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 22, 2009 07:06PM
Posted by: n00binio
lol extraterrestrial civilizations and a 5 mile wide crater



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 23, 2009 03:12AM
Posted by: mortal
It will be interesting when Oct 9 rolls around, that's if the effort to prevent it hasn't worked.
During the Apollo missions, a small booster was jettisoned onto the Moon's surface, and apparently, the Moon rang like a bell for half an hour. So is it hollow? Some people think so. I'll have my telescope out for sure.


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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 23, 2009 04:16PM
Posted by: Guimengo
People should know their limits instead of playing around, bad move on NASA's part in my opinion.
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 23, 2009 07:32PM
Posted by: n00binio
there's also a theory that earth is hollow but no matter if earth or moon, that's highly unlikely. and imo it's ok what nasa does, science mainly consists of playing around without knowing what will happen, that's exactly why we do it.



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 23, 2009 08:29PM
Posted by: Guimengo
what if by any miscalculation they alter the moon's tilt? Or its orbit, if ever so slightly?



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 23, 2009 09:11PM
Posted by: Fincent
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 23, 2009 10:59PM
Posted by: n00binio
mass of the moon m(m)= 7,349·10^22 kg (wikipedia), velocity before hit v(m)=0 (of course it moves but we're looking at an frame of reference located at the moon's centre)

rocket: m(r)=2366 kg, velocity on impact: v(r)=2500 m/s (nasa data)

conservation of momentum: v(r)*m(r)+m(m)*v(m)=(m(r)+m(m))*v(res)
=> v(res)=v(r)*m(r)/((m(r)+m(m)))
=> v(res)=8,049*10^(-17)m/s
=7*10^(-12)m/day

that means the moon will travel about 1/100 of the diameter of an atom per day faster than before. the whole thing is comparable to you being hit by about 100000000 neutrons. no problem at all.

edit: after thinking about it again, even that little effect might cause mayham. but a guy in a science related forum put it right during an discussion on lhc destroying earth:

"The way I figure it, coolness increases in proportion to size. The LHC has a circumference of 27km, thus, it is already friggin' cool. The only way to make it any cooler is to collide particles at close to the speed of light, possibly destroying the planet. The sheer amount of coolness produced by firing that thing would be worth it."

same with shooting rockets into the moon's dust ;)



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 24, 2009 10:51AM
Posted by: The Lopper
The NASA moon bombing, a component of the LCROSS mission, may also trigger conflict with known extraterrestrial civilizations on the moon as reported on the moon in witnessed statements by U.S. astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong, and in witnessed statements to NSA (National Security Agency) photos and documents regarding an extraterrestrial base on the dark side of the moon.

I'm guessing you didn't take this off NASA's own site? ;-)

In fairness, we've @#$%& up Earth so bad at this stage we might as well start again with a clean slate.
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: June 30, 2009 12:27AM
Posted by: n00binio
to bump this topic a bit:

iss excursion in hd


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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 21, 2009 09:51PM
Posted by: Slash
[www.topnews.in]

[blogs.usatoday.com]


A huge comet hit Jupiter, but only an amateur astronomer cought it, how did they missed it?



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 21, 2009 10:23PM
Posted by: n00binio
most observations like this are made by amateurs - maybe because they tend to invest a lot more personal time into observing.



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 21, 2009 10:57PM
Posted by: Slash
true, but still, Jupiter is not an average planet that you can just stop seeing, i mean it's so full of surpises and it's moons and everything... i don't know
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 21, 2009 11:28PM
Posted by: Guimengo
Astronomers have their own agenda and a lot of people and effort is put into a very limited amount of subjects so the rest is largely ignored. Right now they're probably still studying supermassive black holes, black matter and maybe some more on neutrinos, and planet-wise they're probably studying Saturn's moons and all that jazz.
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 21, 2009 11:46PM
Posted by: EC83
Happy 40th anniversary, Moon landings!



Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 22, 2009 12:15PM
Posted by: The Lopper
It's pretty common for amateurs to spot these things. Space is so vast, even professional outfits can only look at so much at a time. Plus their telescopes are often unwieldy and take time to move from one part of the sky to another, whereas amateurs have more easily manouevrable equipment. An amateur astronomer named Robert Evans holds the record for most supernovae discoveries:

[en.wikipedia.org])

Also happy birthday moon landings! It's amazing watching all that footage now, so incredible to think that 40 years ago, man made the ultimate leap and made some of the best, most advanced science fiction movies out in the Arizona desert somewhere... ;)
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 22, 2009 02:20PM
Posted by: mortal
If Man Walked on the Moon Today

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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 22, 2009 02:32PM
Posted by: n00binio
rofl but i fear that clip doesn't exaggerate



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Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: July 22, 2009 11:11PM
Posted by: chet
OMFG USA FTW!!!!






"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Re: Space, The Final Frontier.
Date: August 03, 2009 12:42AM
Posted by: n00binio
just stumbled across that footage, first 20 mins of a shuttle start filmed with an onboard camera. includes crew communication. i think it's quite cool + some funny commets by the crew during launch. obviously they had a small problem as the master alarm turns on after liftoff





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