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Whoa, what's with the screaming! We're all a community of online friends, so please, I beg you as just a common member, chill.
I believe both have a point. While the Governing Body (apparently) has evidence against Glen, I feel it's unfair just to cross out someone. As Glen said, it is perfectly possible for two people to use the same PC, therefore sharing IP, location, and all sorts of trackable things. It is not that simple to prove, I fear.
However, neither Glen nor Jason had provided simple proof of the identity of the owner of the JasonS26 account. It's not necessary to show IDs or passports or birth certificates! I mean we're not even iRacing! There's no money involved or anything, it's a fun league and I joined (and I bet most of us did) because of that.
To me, a simple pic or short clip will do. It doesn't even have to be posted here, Glen or Jason can PM it to Mal or whoever. If not, then we'll have to double check all owners, see if they are running ghost drivers. I, for one, am quite real.
Two cents have been added. Divided we fall.
Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps
I believe both have a point. While the Governing Body (apparently) has evidence against Glen, I feel it's unfair just to cross out someone. As Glen said, it is perfectly possible for two people to use the same PC, therefore sharing IP, location, and all sorts of trackable things. It is not that simple to prove, I fear.
However, neither Glen nor Jason had provided simple proof of the identity of the owner of the JasonS26 account. It's not necessary to show IDs or passports or birth certificates! I mean we're not even iRacing! There's no money involved or anything, it's a fun league and I joined (and I bet most of us did) because of that.
To me, a simple pic or short clip will do. It doesn't even have to be posted here, Glen or Jason can PM it to Mal or whoever. If not, then we'll have to double check all owners, see if they are running ghost drivers. I, for one, am quite real.
Two cents have been added. Divided we fall.
Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps
All the evidence points to a ghost account. The onus to prove otherwise rests with Jason. Until that actually happens an element of suspicion remains, and will continue to do so.
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[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 CentralYou can carry on all you like, until you come up with bona-fides the evidence is overwhelmingly against you. Your call. This was brought to the attention of the GPGSL by participants of the series, apparently they have suspected this for some time. So, realistically, until you prove otherwise you will unfortunately remain under a cloud of suspicion, which is not a good thing. There are two outcomes available, admit the use of a ghost account and we drop the matter, or prove otherwise. Cries of foul don't cut it under the circumstance. It's only a game, we're all well aware of that fact, however we all trust each other to be fair and sportsman like. Attempts to take us for fools is unwise not very sporting.
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mortal Wrote:
It's only a game, we're all well
> aware of that fact, however we all trust each
> other to be fair and sportsman like. Attempts to
> take us for fools is unwise not very sporting.
What a pity GPGSL doesnt appear to be a 2 way street in those things....
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It's only a game, we're all well
> aware of that fact, however we all trust each
> other to be fair and sportsman like. Attempts to
> take us for fools is unwise not very sporting.
What a pity GPGSL doesnt appear to be a 2 way street in those things....
GPGSL Team Owner Debut - Melbourne, Season 8 - present
GPGSL Test Debut - Hungary, Season 4. GPGSL Race Debut - Adelaide, Season 5.
Allington to leave Demon for Season 10
Matthew Allington has today confirmed the fact that, contrary to earlier reports, he will NOT be resuming his role of test driver at Demon Racing into Season 10.
Allington had the following to say: "It is with regret that I have decided to break my agreement with Demon Racing regarding Season 10, but given the current situation, I feel that this is the best course of action for me to secure my own future in the GPGSL."
A spokesman added: "Matthew is now looking for another team to take on his services for Season 10 - all offers would be greatly appreciated."
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
Matthew Allington has today confirmed the fact that, contrary to earlier reports, he will NOT be resuming his role of test driver at Demon Racing into Season 10.
Allington had the following to say: "It is with regret that I have decided to break my agreement with Demon Racing regarding Season 10, but given the current situation, I feel that this is the best course of action for me to secure my own future in the GPGSL."
A spokesman added: "Matthew is now looking for another team to take on his services for Season 10 - all offers would be greatly appreciated."
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
Rod_vs Wrote:
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> Back here, after serious health problems! =/
Nice to have you back, Rod
Shame this good news got lost within the mess that is much of the last 2 pages.. :/
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
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> Back here, after serious health problems! =/
Nice to have you back, Rod
Shame this good news got lost within the mess that is much of the last 2 pages.. :/
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
Yes Jake, you have the blessing of the GPGSL to join Snake early in this case. As far as Mathew Allington is concerned, however, he has to face breech-of-contract consequences if he does the announced move, since I understood it that he and Demon have a valid contract for next season. Hence he will face a perf penalty for next season, as per the rules.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
It is my belief that Glen agreed the termination of the contract with me before I posted the announcement, even if it sounded otherwise by my wording - I'll send evidence ASAP. Nonetheless if it is still decided that I'm to have a perf penalty then so be it, I'll accept it.
GPGSL -
GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
In this case there won't be a penalty, of course. But your wording indeed suggested that this happened without Glen's agreement.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
@#$%&. Fan.
Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
Perf penalty or not, I think I made a good decision to run away from this mess! 
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
Seb, with all true respect, but you are not a single bit better than the board was. Now you make conclusions based on deductions without having a proper background information. Even less of it, in fact, than the board had when it had to decide about the Glen/Jason matter. It's not helping to give the Jackass card from one player to the next and so on. I'm not saying that it was perfect how things went there. But a decision was made and it will stick, I guess. Only for the record, I personally agree that it's surreal to ask for an ID in a game like this.
Anyway, to make you feel better, Seb, I can easily and wholeheartedly state hereby that Jake was not playing foul at all and that he was not the one misusing his position as board member, nor the one who started the discussion about the Glen/Jason matter. It was started by more than one person, who aren't the least involved in the Jake/Glen/Demon quarrel. Jake only came up with this information AFTER the investigation had already started. Hence your deductions are simply and plainly wrong. And so, even if you want to claim Jake biased, the board consists of 6 other people, too, who all were on the same line.
And Mat, like I wrote before, you won't get a perf penalty since Glen agreed to you leaving.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
Anyway, to make you feel better, Seb, I can easily and wholeheartedly state hereby that Jake was not playing foul at all and that he was not the one misusing his position as board member, nor the one who started the discussion about the Glen/Jason matter. It was started by more than one person, who aren't the least involved in the Jake/Glen/Demon quarrel. Jake only came up with this information AFTER the investigation had already started. Hence your deductions are simply and plainly wrong. And so, even if you want to claim Jake biased, the board consists of 6 other people, too, who all were on the same line.
And Mat, like I wrote before, you won't get a perf penalty since Glen agreed to you leaving.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
EDIT: Beat me to it, John! 
Thanks for clearing the perf penalty
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Thanks for clearing the perf penalty
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wow.....i wasnt expecting to read something like this when i logged on to see what´s happend since yesterday....
i swear, i am who i am, Michael Pedersen, a fluffy dane living in Sweden atm =P I belive atleast Rico can vouch for it
Anyway, of to get me some popcorn and see what comes out of this mess....
remember folks, its just a game, not life or death
or is all this just a part of the game?!
i swear, i am who i am, Michael Pedersen, a fluffy dane living in Sweden atm =P I belive atleast Rico can vouch for it
Anyway, of to get me some popcorn and see what comes out of this mess....
remember folks, its just a game, not life or death
or is all this just a part of the game?!
Whoa there seems to be a big mess right now :0 there isn't much more to say, I just guess that no other season since I've joined saw so much controversy and suspect towards some members.
P.s. Paolo Tafuro? Seriously? I made it clear 5 years ago that the name was fictional.
My GPGSL Career
P.s. Paolo Tafuro? Seriously? I made it clear 5 years ago that the name was fictional.
My GPGSL Career
It might well be considered surreal to ask for an ID, however this is an extra-ordinary event, and if Jason26 can prove he exists then he should do so to the GPGSL, and by doing so he lets Glen off the hook metaphorically. This is by far the easiest and simplest method to close the subject, instead of making a lot of noise in an attempt to make the board members look bad when we all know that is not the case.
OK OK it's just a game, but there seems to be a lack of sportsmanship with this incident. Someone needs to man up and grow a pair, and it's not the GPGSL.
There's a shed load of evidence, and it needs proper refuting. Running a ghost account is a clear breach of the rules, more importantly, it takes a place that someone could have. That to me, is more the issue here. To create someone out of thin-air to fill a vacancy is just plain wrong.
The GPGSL has fought long and hard to prevent ghost teams and drivers to ensure full participation, which is what it's all about. Real people taking part in what has taken us a long time to get where we are today. Those of you who took part in the WGP and the W300 know exactly where I'm coming from here.
We are not out to GET anyone, nor are we about to evict a team owner and a team. I'd like to see everyone get the truth.
So Jason, if you are reading this, come forward. Only you can let Glen off the hook so to speak. It's not about wether you exist or not, it's about was there a ghost account? The GPGSL is already prepared to issue a public retraction and an apology if it is satisfied that there was not a ghost account being used.
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OK OK it's just a game, but there seems to be a lack of sportsmanship with this incident. Someone needs to man up and grow a pair, and it's not the GPGSL.
There's a shed load of evidence, and it needs proper refuting. Running a ghost account is a clear breach of the rules, more importantly, it takes a place that someone could have. That to me, is more the issue here. To create someone out of thin-air to fill a vacancy is just plain wrong.
The GPGSL has fought long and hard to prevent ghost teams and drivers to ensure full participation, which is what it's all about. Real people taking part in what has taken us a long time to get where we are today. Those of you who took part in the WGP and the W300 know exactly where I'm coming from here.
We are not out to GET anyone, nor are we about to evict a team owner and a team. I'd like to see everyone get the truth.
So Jason, if you are reading this, come forward. Only you can let Glen off the hook so to speak. It's not about wether you exist or not, it's about was there a ghost account? The GPGSL is already prepared to issue a public retraction and an apology if it is satisfied that there was not a ghost account being used.
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