What happened to the old hockenheim circuit

Posted by torana_05 
What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 10:56PM
Posted by: torana_05
does anyone know the reason why the long hockenheim circuit was cut down to the crap we have today. i really miss the long one. i had a look on google earth and saw some pictures of it all over grown and grassy






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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:01PM
Posted by: superchargednut
Can't believe the track wasn't kept for other uses :(

Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:05PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
lol, that second picture could be anything. ;)

The new layout is not crappy. The racing there is a thousand times better than it was on the old circuit. Throw away those rose-tinted glasses, they are obviously starting to affect your common sense.



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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:10PM
Posted by: The Lopper
Man those photos are depressing.

Basically, idiocy resulted in the castration, nay, mutilation of this unique circuit. Fair enough , cars blasting along a fairly narrow track at 220 mph, only feet away from the trees, could be considered dangerous. Let the drivers play tiddlywinks so. It wasn't great spectator-wise either though, as there wasn't much they could do in the forest to improve spectating facilities because they couldn't knock the trees, and because the track was so long, the cars only went round so many laps (around 45) so the spectators in the motordrome wouldn't see as much as at other races.

None of that justified digging the old circuit up and preventing more sensible racing series from using it.

/edit I see Toby does not agree with me! ;) We all have our preferences I guess! :)



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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:16PM
Posted by: Bruninho
I'd rather drive the new circuit. much more pleasant to drive



Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:21PM
Posted by: gav
Locke Cole Wrote:
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> The new layout is not crappy. The racing there is
> a thousand times better than it was on the old
> circuit. Throw away those rose-tinted glasses,
> they are obviously starting to affect your common
> sense.

Speak for yourself. The new circuit is certainly one of the better creations made/revised in modern years, but it pales into insignificance to what was a classic track, or even most of the other tracks which preceded it.

Hockenheim may have been primarily flat-out, but so is the Indy 500 and Le Mans. It and Monza were special. They're now both just castrated members, living on memories. At least the Italians have refused to raze theirs yet.

The racing at the new Hockenheim isn't what it was. It's pretty much just another circuit. It won't host a 2000 or 1994. It's only good when circumstance intervenes - it just happens more often than at other tracks.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:27PM
Posted by: iCeMaN pAuL
I find those pictures rather sad lol! :( I'm quite a sentimental person.. ;)




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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 24, 2009 11:43PM
Posted by: Frantic
Can´t understand why they dropped out the tarmac, they should put a museum there or something :(

Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 12:17AM
Posted by: Gord_on_wheels
Isn't there a Jim Clark memorial out there somewhere?

Wonder what happened to that?
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 12:20AM
Posted by: turkey_machine
I'd love the older Monza to still be around. Those Lesmo corners really made your bowels move, especially the second one which was absolutely flat.



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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 12:30AM
Posted by: Frantic
There is the Oval layout and the old parabolica still alive in Monza

Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 01:46AM
Posted by: gav
Gord_on_wheels Wrote:
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> Isn't there a Jim Clark memorial out there
> somewhere?
>
> Wonder what happened to that?

It was relocated after the old track was ripped up, but it's still there as far as I know.

Frantic Wrote:
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> There is the Oval layout and the old parabolica
> still alive in Monza

The old Parabolica disappeared many decades ago.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 01:52AM
Posted by: Frantic
Yep, sorry, its the oval´s curve into main straight :)

Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 01:54AM
Posted by: torana_05
have a look on google earth the jim clarke memorial is still there


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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 03:43AM
Posted by: chet
Locke Cole Wrote:
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> lol, that second picture could be anything. ;)
>
> The new layout is not crappy. The racing there is
> a thousand times better than it was on the old
> circuit. Throw away those rose-tinted glasses,
> they are obviously starting to affect your common
> sense.


YWES
TYOUVE GOT IT!
exactly!!!!!

old was nicew
new is good racing






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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 01:32PM
Posted by: Nickv
The old Hockenheim didn't produce awesome racing, just like the new one doesn't either. Fact is that the old Hockenheim was special, like Spa and Monza. At least the race was moderately good because you'd have special circumstances, and the racing itself wasn't special. Now the track is boring and the racing still isn't special.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 02:44PM
Posted by: elemental
I didn't like the old Hockenheim for whether or not the racing was good. It was a circuit in the mould of Monza and Spa, classic and iconic. Now I'd rather it wasn't on the calendar at all. Nor the Nürburgring, that new first sector is terrible.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 07:00PM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
What / when did they change (to) parabolica? I thought it looked different nowadays and in newer games but I always assumed that was because of the completely changing the width and all of the start finish straight. I really hate the first chicane though.

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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 07:13PM
Posted by: gav
Daniel Knott Wrote:
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> What / when did they change (to) parabolica?

Sometime in the 1950s. ;)
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 07:36PM
Posted by: Frantic
More exactly 1955 :)

Anyway you can enjoy it on the 1966 film Grand Prix

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