What happened to the old hockenheim circuit

Posted by torana_05 
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 07:47PM
Posted by: gav
Originally the Parabolica was a more constant radius banked corner. In the 30's it changed to twin right-handers, then in 1955 (as Frantic said) it became the corner we know now.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 08:18PM
Posted by: Frantic
well, gav is right, so i will correct this post

This wasn´t the Original Monza



this its wrong and I didn´t understand all gav said because my crappy english;)



1955-71 (today´s parabolica)



72-73 (Ascari and retiffilo chicanes added)



74-75 (Ascari chicane as little bit modified)



76-94 (now with all chicanes, with Retiffilo modified)



95-99 (Lesmos a little modified, the old was better :))



2000-nowdays (again variante di retiffilo modified)







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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 09:01PM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
What was it like before then then? :P

And anyway, even the "unchanged" parabolica was changed, as I was assuming you were meaning in between 1967 and present day.

H E L L O
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 09:40PM
Posted by: gav
I think you've got the first 2 the wrong way around Frantic. The original had the banked Parabolica with the original oval, and the Vedano circuit replaced the road track in '38.

The old Vedano corners still exist, just past the south banking.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 25, 2009 10:05PM
Posted by: Frantic
gav you are right, but I can´t find photos of the first 2 :) so i corrected the other post in the only way I could ;)

may the second photo is the first and the first photo its the second or something... I only can speak Spanish correctly!! :)

regards





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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 26, 2009 12:22PM
Posted by: Vader
Morbid and me posted pics like these back in 2003 when we were there for the race.






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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 26, 2009 01:03PM
Posted by: The Lopper
^^
Aye, I remember that thread, or more correctly I remember my dismay when I realised for the first time that they'd dug up the old circuit.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 26, 2009 09:20PM
Posted by: Anonymous User
first picture is now my desktop.

ghost-circuit. how utterly sad and depressing and yet geet mint at the same time
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 27, 2009 08:44PM
Posted by: J i m
I think Hockenheim had to rip up the old track. Because I think they had to clear a fair amount of tress for the venue overhaul. In which case they had to destroy the old "ring" and plant new trees.

I loved the old Hockenheim, but it's gone and theres now no use bleating about it.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: January 28, 2009 11:30AM
Posted by: marwood82
i went there about a year and a half ago. it was mid-week so just had a look round. (btw if you go, i wouldn't bother with the museum its pretty rubbish)

we went up to the point where the new track turns away from the forest. they've moved the jim clark memorial to there now.

It is really weird scene as its only slightly overgrown so you can still see the line the track took through the trees.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 07, 2009 04:19PM
Posted by: SAMF1
here is jim clark's memorial









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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 07, 2009 05:38PM
Posted by: The Lopper
Gosh, it's really nondescript really. I kinda expected a bigger memorial.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 09, 2009 03:50PM
Posted by: Guimengo
You should have seen the way it looked a couple of years after the circuit's butchering, it was completely abandoned by some bushes and trees.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 09, 2009 04:03PM
Posted by: J i m
The Lopper Wrote:
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> Gosh, it's really nondescript really. I kinda
> expected a bigger memorial.
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Nah, it's about appropriate. Remember Jim Clark was fairly quiet and unassuming, he'd probably be quite embarrassed if it was a extravagant memorial.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 09, 2009 05:19PM
Posted by: The Lopper
Well no, I wouldn't expect anything extravagant, it just surprised me that the slab is that small. It's nice though having looked at it again.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 19, 2009 03:52PM
Posted by: Roadwarrior
Thats sad, damn i dont know how they didnt do not to monza yet, this one will be the next to get crippled unfortunally, mark my words.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 19, 2009 03:54PM
Posted by: Bruninho
Sorry if I had missed the point, but why is his memorial not placed where exactly he died on track?

Like Sennas statue behind Tamburello's walls.







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Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 19, 2009 04:04PM
Posted by: gav
Maybe the section after Clark Kurve is sealed off, so they moved it closer to the new track so modern fans can appreciate it on a race weekend?
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 19, 2009 04:24PM
Posted by: horror donkey
since we are at memorials, Iwas to monza about dozen times, and only memorial I saw was Fangio's in the section behind the paddock, but When I went to the end of the back straight to parabolica enterance, a place where Von tripps and Rindt were killed I couldnt find anything, just like nothing ever happened there. So I wouldnt be surprised if they just took memorial away in some museum or something like that, because I think they do not mind too much.
Re: What happened to the old hockenheim circuit
Date: February 19, 2009 06:47PM
Posted by: Guimengo
I never saw anything where Von Tripps died, and where Rindt died there are just trees behind the wall though they could definitely have something behind the infield barrier:



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