GPGSL Season 5- S6 CALENDAR VOTE RESULTS
Posted by GPGSL
JohnMaverick Wrote:
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> Lol, I studied law myself for a few years. So if
> we assign RL law here, there is definitely no way
> out here for Jack, with the lack of indemnity
> clauses
More importantly (and in the basic logic), Christel VXR offered a contract to Jack. This was accepted by Jack, and that acceptance by Jack was communicated to Chris (agent for Christel VXR) - which creates a valid contract. The only way (based on contract law) for the contract to be invalidated was if Christel VXR had revoked the offer prior to the acceptance being communicated by Jack.
As this is not the case, there is a contract between Christel VXR and Jack Elleker - and Jack would be in breach of contract if he pulled out now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2011 03:11PM by Diax F1.
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> Lol, I studied law myself for a few years. So if
> we assign RL law here, there is definitely no way
> out here for Jack, with the lack of indemnity
> clauses
More importantly (and in the basic logic), Christel VXR offered a contract to Jack. This was accepted by Jack, and that acceptance by Jack was communicated to Chris (agent for Christel VXR) - which creates a valid contract. The only way (based on contract law) for the contract to be invalidated was if Christel VXR had revoked the offer prior to the acceptance being communicated by Jack.
As this is not the case, there is a contract between Christel VXR and Jack Elleker - and Jack would be in breach of contract if he pulled out now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2011 03:11PM by Diax F1.
That's what I mean. As we don't have the possibility to use indemnity clauses, Jack can't even buy out of this valid contract by simply taking the risk of being forced to pay an indemnity clause, if he'd decide to break it.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
If he pulls out without acceptance of Chris that is (breaking contract) 
However this seems to be the case, after Chris' statement, that he is 'breaking' contract.
If you are racing, keep on racing and get some points!
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2011 03:30PM by MDBSnake.
However this seems to be the case, after Chris' statement, that he is 'breaking' contract.GPG Super League S11 | Driver #41 | Team-manager | Snake Motorsports Racing Group | Next Race: Emmeloord - Flevoland GP | Constructors: 10th | Best Race Finish: 1st
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2011 03:30PM by MDBSnake.
I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware there was anything that I could do about it...
GPGSL - Christel VXR team Boss S6-S8, S12 Onwards
GPGSL - Christel VXR team Boss S6-S8, S12 Onwards
Heheh, oops :D
I'm gonna need to find a lawyer
I'm gonna need to find a lawyer
Diax F1 Wrote:
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> CaptinFranko Wrote:
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> > I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware there
> > was anything that I could do about it...
>
> On the contrary - you did accept it. There was
> acceptance of the deal from both sides - you
> confirmed the deal had taken place when you
> announced the driver line-up, and Jack stated this
> just after the announcement:
>
> JackHammer Wrote:
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> -----
> > Looking forward to my race seat next season,
> > especially alongside Juliano, who was an Alpha
> > team-mate before I moved to TSS
>
> If that doesn't point out that Jack is contracted
> to Christel VXR next season, I don't know what
> does.
No no no, I was referring to Snakes post where he had implied that I had accepted termination of the contract, which I haven't Sorry, my fault. Should have quoted his post.
GPGSL - Christel VXR team Boss S6-S8, S12 Onwards
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> CaptinFranko Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware there
> > was anything that I could do about it...
>
> On the contrary - you did accept it. There was
> acceptance of the deal from both sides - you
> confirmed the deal had taken place when you
> announced the driver line-up, and Jack stated this
> just after the announcement:
>
> JackHammer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looking forward to my race seat next season,
> > especially alongside Juliano, who was an Alpha
> > team-mate before I moved to TSS
>
> If that doesn't point out that Jack is contracted
> to Christel VXR next season, I don't know what
> does.
No no no, I was referring to Snakes post where he had implied that I had accepted termination of the contract, which I haven't Sorry, my fault. Should have quoted his post.
GPGSL - Christel VXR team Boss S6-S8, S12 Onwards
CaptinFranko Schreef:
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> Diax F1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CaptinFranko Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware
> there
> > > was anything that I could do about it...
> >
> > On the contrary - you did accept it. There was
> > acceptance of the deal from both sides - you
> > confirmed the deal had taken place when you
> > announced the driver line-up, and Jack stated
> this
> > just after the announcement:
> >
> > JackHammer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Looking forward to my race seat next season,
> > > especially alongside Juliano, who was an
> Alpha
> > > team-mate before I moved to TSS
> >
> > If that doesn't point out that Jack is
> contracted
> > to Christel VXR next season, I don't know what
> > does.
>
> No no no, I was referring to Snakes post where he
> had implied that I had accepted termination of the
> contract, which I haven't Sorry, my fault. Should
> have quoted his post.
No i didn't implied that, sorry if I stated myself wrong - reading through my post again i see i missed a word, OOPS!
What I meant was that with your post on the previous page you had NOT accepted the termination of the contract
If you are racing, keep on racing and get some points!
GPG Super League S11 | Driver #41 | Team-manager | Snake Motorsports Racing Group | Next Race: Emmeloord - Flevoland GP | Constructors: 10th | Best Race Finish: 1st
GPG Super League Season 9 Testers Champion*
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> Diax F1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CaptinFranko Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware
> there
> > > was anything that I could do about it...
> >
> > On the contrary - you did accept it. There was
> > acceptance of the deal from both sides - you
> > confirmed the deal had taken place when you
> > announced the driver line-up, and Jack stated
> this
> > just after the announcement:
> >
> > JackHammer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Looking forward to my race seat next season,
> > > especially alongside Juliano, who was an
> Alpha
> > > team-mate before I moved to TSS
> >
> > If that doesn't point out that Jack is
> contracted
> > to Christel VXR next season, I don't know what
> > does.
>
> No no no, I was referring to Snakes post where he
> had implied that I had accepted termination of the
> contract, which I haven't Sorry, my fault. Should
> have quoted his post.
No i didn't implied that, sorry if I stated myself wrong - reading through my post again i see i missed a word, OOPS!
What I meant was that with your post on the previous page you had NOT accepted the termination of the contract
GPG Super League S11 | Driver #41 | Team-manager | Snake Motorsports Racing Group | Next Race: Emmeloord - Flevoland GP | Constructors: 10th | Best Race Finish: 1st
GPG Super League Season 9 Testers Champion*
MDBSnake Wrote:
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> CaptinFranko Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Diax F1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > CaptinFranko Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware
> > there
> > > > was anything that I could do about it...
> > >
> > > On the contrary - you did accept it. There
> was
> > > acceptance of the deal from both sides - you
> > > confirmed the deal had taken place when you
> > > announced the driver line-up, and Jack stated
> > this
> > > just after the announcement:
> > >
> > > JackHammer Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Looking forward to my race seat next
> season,
> > > > especially alongside Juliano, who was an
> > Alpha
> > > > team-mate before I moved to TSS
> > >
> > > If that doesn't point out that Jack is
> > contracted
> > > to Christel VXR next season, I don't know
> what
> > > does.
> >
> > No no no, I was referring to Snakes post where
> he
> > had implied that I had accepted termination of
> the
> > contract, which I haven't Sorry, my fault.
> Should
> > have quoted his post.
>
>
> No i didn't implied that, sorry if I stated myself
> wrong - reading through my post again i see i
> missed a word, OOPS!
>
> What I meant was that with your post on the
> previous page you had NOT accepted the termination
> of the contract
Oh that's okay no worries, I see what you mean now.
Just for the record: I can categorically state that I have Not accepted the termination.
GPGSL - Christel VXR team Boss S6-S8, S12 Onwards
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> CaptinFranko Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Diax F1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > CaptinFranko Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I haven't accepted it I just wasn't aware
> > there
> > > > was anything that I could do about it...
> > >
> > > On the contrary - you did accept it. There
> was
> > > acceptance of the deal from both sides - you
> > > confirmed the deal had taken place when you
> > > announced the driver line-up, and Jack stated
> > this
> > > just after the announcement:
> > >
> > > JackHammer Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Looking forward to my race seat next
> season,
> > > > especially alongside Juliano, who was an
> > Alpha
> > > > team-mate before I moved to TSS
> > >
> > > If that doesn't point out that Jack is
> > contracted
> > > to Christel VXR next season, I don't know
> what
> > > does.
> >
> > No no no, I was referring to Snakes post where
> he
> > had implied that I had accepted termination of
> the
> > contract, which I haven't Sorry, my fault.
> Should
> > have quoted his post.
>
>
> No i didn't implied that, sorry if I stated myself
> wrong - reading through my post again i see i
> missed a word, OOPS!
>
> What I meant was that with your post on the
> previous page you had NOT accepted the termination
> of the contract
Oh that's okay no worries, I see what you mean now.
Just for the record: I can categorically state that I have Not accepted the termination.
GPGSL - Christel VXR team Boss S6-S8, S12 Onwards
Well I'll still be happy to race for VXR if my move isn't allowed :p
JackHammer Wrote:
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> Well I'll still be happy to race for VXR if my
> move isn't allowed :p
As it stands, the GPGSL are currently deliberating upon this landmark case. There will be an announcement in regards to "Christel VXR Ltd. v. Elleker [2011] GPGSLC 1" in due course.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2011 03:56PM by Diax F1.
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> Well I'll still be happy to race for VXR if my
> move isn't allowed :p
As it stands, the GPGSL are currently deliberating upon this landmark case. There will be an announcement in regards to "Christel VXR Ltd. v. Elleker [2011] GPGSLC 1" in due course.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2011 03:56PM by Diax F1.
GPGSL Judgement - "Christel VXR Ltd. v. Elleker [2011] GPGSLC 1"
The GPGSL have passed judgement upon the case stated above.
It is decreed that the defendant would be in breach of the contract made with the plaintiff if he were to move to a different team within the GPGSL. In light of this, if the defendant wishes to leave Christel VXR, he will receive a 30 performance point deduction for the next season. If the defendant wishes to remain at Christel VXR for the next season, no further action will be taken.
Given the unprecedented nature of this case, this ruling will be passed into GPGSL law at the end of the current season.
GPGSL
The GPGSL have passed judgement upon the case stated above.
It is decreed that the defendant would be in breach of the contract made with the plaintiff if he were to move to a different team within the GPGSL. In light of this, if the defendant wishes to leave Christel VXR, he will receive a 30 performance point deduction for the next season. If the defendant wishes to remain at Christel VXR for the next season, no further action will be taken.
Given the unprecedented nature of this case, this ruling will be passed into GPGSL law at the end of the current season.
GPGSL
Might this be the point to throw out some old fashion W300 contract concepts??
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wow a whole court case and everything! I can honestly say 100% i will be in a Christel VXR car next year! Just making it clear
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Statement from Jack Elleker's Agent/Lawyer
Jack is sorry for any contract issues and is happy to continue the race contract with Christel VXR next season
Jack is sorry for any contract issues and is happy to continue the race contract with Christel VXR next season
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Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
MPR News
MPR would like to announce that Adam Davies the Aston Martin test driver and former racer will be making a guest performance as the second race driver for the team at Monaco
There was media speculation that Ben Johnson would fill the seat, however the team wanted him to concentrate on securing the test drivers championship
The team hopes he will secure the title in Monte Carlo and will then take the second MPR race seat alongside international playboy Matt Houston
The team also says goodbye to Monil Santilal who has left the series, the team thanks him for 2 race wins and a number of podium finishes over his 2 years at the team
Thanks Monil
Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
MPR would like to announce that Adam Davies the Aston Martin test driver and former racer will be making a guest performance as the second race driver for the team at Monaco
There was media speculation that Ben Johnson would fill the seat, however the team wanted him to concentrate on securing the test drivers championship
The team hopes he will secure the title in Monte Carlo and will then take the second MPR race seat alongside international playboy Matt Houston
The team also says goodbye to Monil Santilal who has left the series, the team thanks him for 2 race wins and a number of podium finishes over his 2 years at the team
Thanks Monil
Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
Ferrari2007 Wrote:
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> MPR News
>
> MPR would like to announce that Adam Davies the
> Aston Martin test driver and former racer will be
> making a guest performance as the second race
> driver for the team at Monaco
>
> There was media speculation that Ben Johnson would
> fill the seat, however the team wanted him to
> concentrate on securing the test drivers
> championship
>
> The team hopes he will secure the title in Monte
> Carlo and will then take the second MPR race seat
> alongside international playboy Matt Houston
>
> The team also says goodbye to Monil Santilal who
> has left the series, the team thanks him for 2
> race wins and a number of podium finishes over his
> 2 years at the team
>
> Thanks Monil
Is there an agreement to allow Adam to leave AMR for the Monaco GP?
I'm sure Stuart won't mind and will allow it, but just make sure - especially in light of the recent 'court' case between Christel VXR and Jack Elleker (which gives precedence that a driver's current team must allow that driver to terminate the contract/loan a driver out for a race).
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> MPR News
>
> MPR would like to announce that Adam Davies the
> Aston Martin test driver and former racer will be
> making a guest performance as the second race
> driver for the team at Monaco
>
> There was media speculation that Ben Johnson would
> fill the seat, however the team wanted him to
> concentrate on securing the test drivers
> championship
>
> The team hopes he will secure the title in Monte
> Carlo and will then take the second MPR race seat
> alongside international playboy Matt Houston
>
> The team also says goodbye to Monil Santilal who
> has left the series, the team thanks him for 2
> race wins and a number of podium finishes over his
> 2 years at the team
>
> Thanks Monil
Is there an agreement to allow Adam to leave AMR for the Monaco GP?
I'm sure Stuart won't mind and will allow it, but just make sure - especially in light of the recent 'court' case between Christel VXR and Jack Elleker (which gives precedence that a driver's current team must allow that driver to terminate the contract/loan a driver out for a race).
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