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julk Wrote:
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> i will ask him first,
but this is a right start mate
you will ask, and this is the only thing that 99% of author want. then the "autorization" is sure in 99%. But many time there is someone that doesn't ask.. and this is what is wrong. Asking first, it is free :D
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2007 08:38PM by 32BOBO32.
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> i will ask him first,
but this is a right start mate
you will ask, and this is the only thing that 99% of author want. then the "autorization" is sure in 99%. But many time there is someone that doesn't ask.. and this is what is wrong. Asking first, it is free :DEdited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2007 08:38PM by 32BOBO32.
julk Wrote:
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> i have respect for the people that didn´t ofend
> me, if i gonna make a car based on (fw28 by
> miturasano) i will ask him first, but if he
> didn´t give me the permision because of this car
> is exclusive for XXX mod and only they are going
> to modify it, I will modify it, because, i will
> not stop my proyects because his
> (theorical)selfish.
I can't believe there are people like you. You ask, but there's only 1 correct answer. If you always behave like this you must have a great life don't you. And how on earth do you dare to call people selfish, who release cars and other stuff for FREE for you to use ?!
If you are not able to understand that, you might want to take some advice and suck a tailpipe. It will be best for everyone.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
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> i have respect for the people that didn´t ofend
> me, if i gonna make a car based on (fw28 by
> miturasano) i will ask him first, but if he
> didn´t give me the permision because of this car
> is exclusive for XXX mod and only they are going
> to modify it, I will modify it, because, i will
> not stop my proyects because his
> (theorical)selfish.
I can't believe there are people like you. You ask, but there's only 1 correct answer. If you always behave like this you must have a great life don't you. And how on earth do you dare to call people selfish, who release cars and other stuff for FREE for you to use ?!
If you are not able to understand that, you might want to take some advice and suck a tailpipe. It will be best for everyone.
julk Wrote:
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> i have respect for the people that didn´t ofend
> me, if i gonna make a car based on (fw28 by
> miturasano) i will ask him first, but if he
> didn´t give me the permision because of this car
> is exclusive for XXX mod and only they are going
> to modify it, I will modify it, because, i will
> not stop my proyects because his
> (theorical)selfish.
Then please sit down for long three or four (maybe even more) months and build a car or track from scratch and then repeat your statements you just wrote. If it is so simple as you think then prove it, please. We are waiting.
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> i have respect for the people that didn´t ofend
> me, if i gonna make a car based on (fw28 by
> miturasano) i will ask him first, but if he
> didn´t give me the permision because of this car
> is exclusive for XXX mod and only they are going
> to modify it, I will modify it, because, i will
> not stop my proyects because his
> (theorical)selfish.
Then please sit down for long three or four (maybe even more) months and build a car or track from scratch and then repeat your statements you just wrote. If it is so simple as you think then prove it, please. We are waiting.
There's a thing called "copyright". All you say seem to make sense but in the end it doesn't. We're not talking about trademarks or patents. When you create something you are the intellectual owner of that product. When someone releases it without (any given) permission, it's theft. No matter how popular you get, how many hours you've put into it or how big the demand is. The only right you have as a user is that you can modify it the way you like for personal use only.
To keep a community healthy, you need healthy members. It always hurts me to see healthy members leave when a desease invades. Seeing Paolo, Lee, Zeppelin and Kyran leaving hurts me even more since they are such great people and always made me proud to be a member of this forum.
I won't leave, I had many reasons in the past to do so, believe me. I do however, feel the moderators are too absent. Will is doing a nice job, but he can't do this all by himself. In all these years no mod stood up for me or any of the other gp4devs whenever we were in the line of fire. That's ok for me, I can handle my share but it damages the spirit of the community.
Keep the community healthy by respecting the talents that make this a community.
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
To keep a community healthy, you need healthy members. It always hurts me to see healthy members leave when a desease invades. Seeing Paolo, Lee, Zeppelin and Kyran leaving hurts me even more since they are such great people and always made me proud to be a member of this forum.
I won't leave, I had many reasons in the past to do so, believe me. I do however, feel the moderators are too absent. Will is doing a nice job, but he can't do this all by himself. In all these years no mod stood up for me or any of the other gp4devs whenever we were in the line of fire. That's ok for me, I can handle my share but it damages the spirit of the community.
Keep the community healthy by respecting the talents that make this a community.
[1991] [2003] [2004] [gp2 world series]
am I missing something in here or...? BTW paolo, whats the link of that site your on again? lost the link:S
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2007 11:35PM by Iceman-Kimi.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2007 11:35PM by Iceman-Kimi.
I totally support the mod makers and the guys who take the time to create stuff for us in this sim. I am in complete agreement with Erix, however I fear what we see here is symptomatic of society in general these days, not just the GP4 community.
It IS a respect issue, but also an issue of what is morally right and wrong. I would never dream of using someone's work without their permission, but this concept is completely lost on many individuals.
Someone who is amoral simply doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong, or if they do, they simply don't care.
Not making excuses for anyone, simply pointing out something I see every day in the real world...
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
It IS a respect issue, but also an issue of what is morally right and wrong. I would never dream of using someone's work without their permission, but this concept is completely lost on many individuals.
Someone who is amoral simply doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong, or if they do, they simply don't care.
Not making excuses for anyone, simply pointing out something I see every day in the real world...
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Interesting post, With regard to admin, there are only three active moderators working the forums. Therefore it is an impossible task to read every post. We rely on post reports to alert us of an objectionable post which is usually acted on as soon as the report is seen.
We are here, when you want us, and I personally do my utmost to support the mod makers and their rights to their intellectual property by shutting down threads, removing links to works that have used the property of others without due permission and closing the accounts of serial offenders. On a forum such as this little else can be done and I'm sure you are all well aware of that.
Everyone should be aware that without the modders our beloved GP4 would be gathering dust on a shelf, instead of constantly being given a new lease of life.
To read in this post that applauds our community and its modders that a user would be only too happy to use anothers work/s without permission is a sad state of affairs. If a modder denies the use of his work it is his right, not (sic)(theoretical) selfishness. There are many reasons why use would be denied, and selfishness is not amongst them. For example,some modders choose to do work for addition to a particular work, as part of a package or season release.
It is also about due respect, for the hours of labour, the time spent hunched over a keyboard and mousepad creating the work which we all crave to see.
Give up a few weeks of your own precious time and then sit by and watch as someone steals your work from you, modifies it in ten minutes or so and then markets it as his own.
The door is over there, maybe you should use it, such comments are not welcome in our community place. Close it behind you when you leave. I won't bother shaming you any more than is neccesary by putting your ID in here, everyone knows who you are anyway.
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We are here, when you want us, and I personally do my utmost to support the mod makers and their rights to their intellectual property by shutting down threads, removing links to works that have used the property of others without due permission and closing the accounts of serial offenders. On a forum such as this little else can be done and I'm sure you are all well aware of that.
Everyone should be aware that without the modders our beloved GP4 would be gathering dust on a shelf, instead of constantly being given a new lease of life.
To read in this post that applauds our community and its modders that a user would be only too happy to use anothers work/s without permission is a sad state of affairs. If a modder denies the use of his work it is his right, not (sic)(theoretical) selfishness. There are many reasons why use would be denied, and selfishness is not amongst them. For example,some modders choose to do work for addition to a particular work, as part of a package or season release.
It is also about due respect, for the hours of labour, the time spent hunched over a keyboard and mousepad creating the work which we all crave to see.
Give up a few weeks of your own precious time and then sit by and watch as someone steals your work from you, modifies it in ten minutes or so and then markets it as his own.
The door is over there, maybe you should use it, such comments are not welcome in our community place. Close it behind you when you leave. I won't bother shaming you any more than is neccesary by putting your ID in here, everyone knows who you are anyway.
mortal gpg.org moderator.
[www.mediafire.com] Some say you should click it, you know you want to.
[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 Central
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