Wow,
I really should read the posts more, I completely missed this one!!!!
I don't want to disagree with other members whom I respect, but DaveEllis, I think your closing comment was unfounded.
Here are two reasons to have faith in the community :
1. My Williams FW26B project (first proper attempt at modelling).
I approached Wai and Bojan re possibly adding some bits to there FW26A and releasing it, then when they updated theirs I would remove it. They have both been more than helpful, with Wai spending a large amount of time on MSN the other weekend helping me learn normals (still not sure - but hey!).
I have posted screenshots to this very forum, but at no time have I said it was my work, I have always credited Wai and Bojan for there work. They still continue to help me and I am overwhelmed by this support as I had assumed (because of the ramblings on this forum) that carmakers were secretive and territorial! They are not - they just want to be consulted!!
2. My Arrows A18 project (first proper attempt at a car).
I originally started fiddling around with the original 2001 Williams to create a rough arrows shape (as per advise from Wai). However upon posting to the forum the feedback was that the shape wasn't altogether correct, so I started from scratch (completely from scratch). And posted shots as I went along and again I have had so much support on my email and in private messages from car makers and non-car makers, even Oggo (who's fantastic Champ Car sets are always on my pc) has offered to spend time showing me how to do normals and other fine-tuning, just to help get more people modelling.
I posted this week for some help finding logos for the Arrows and have been overwhelmed by help, some posters even created the logos for me, it was fantastic.
Now really, does this sound as though the community is going downhill? Or does it sound like people are just laying credit, where credit is due?
Had the Argentinian guy been truthfull and said we are creating the FW26B on Wai's original shape I fully believe if it had been up to scratch Wai would have supported them and had no problems, as he did with me.
Having starting learning how to create cars, I can also understand why people need to be credited for there work. Wai said it would take approximately a month to create a car, a month of un-paid work! Why wouldn't he want someone to credit him after that amount of dedication???
Come on, don't cloud the issue and remember why we are here, to further the game and to improve our skills. My mum always told me honesty is the best policy and I still believe that is true.
Sorry for the rant DaveEllis, but it's unfair to knock dedicated, hard-working simmers, who just want to move forwards.
Steve
<still smiling>