GPGSL S10 R11: Brazilian Wax Grand Prix - Interlagos [Perfs posted][Seat Vacancy]
Posted by GPGSL
We need Stephan magically appearing and saying the series is rubbish and Ruben saying it should be more dangerous. Oh and DRS, everybody loves DRS.
Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps
Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps
I'd like to know more on the NC boost system, as to how it differs from this series.
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[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 CentralEach team has number of rounds participated in*500 boost points. On top of that they get extra points for their championship positions of the previous seasons, according to the table below (manager bound, not nation).
1 = 100
2 = 85
3 = 75
4 = 67
5 = 60
6 = 54
7 = 49
8 = 45
9 = 41
10 = 37
11 = 33
12 = 29
13 = 26
14 = 23
15 = 20
16 = 18
17 = 16
18 = 14
19 = 13
20 = 12
21 = 11
22 = 10
So for me and team Germany this meant for the start of season 4:
17 races: 17*500=8500
3rd place in season 2: 75
1st place in season 3: 100
=> 8675 boost points.
The boost points can be spent on quali/race skill. The maximum you can spent for one weekend is 500 for each quali and race (so 1000 in total).
These are the base values for each team, bhp and cof always remain the same
Performance=850,850,1500
First Driver=1,Germany,16000,500,17000,500
Some mods
F1 1996 | F1 2002 | F1 2007 | F1 2011 | F1 2013 | F1 2015 | F1 2018
1 = 100
2 = 85
3 = 75
4 = 67
5 = 60
6 = 54
7 = 49
8 = 45
9 = 41
10 = 37
11 = 33
12 = 29
13 = 26
14 = 23
15 = 20
16 = 18
17 = 16
18 = 14
19 = 13
20 = 12
21 = 11
22 = 10
So for me and team Germany this meant for the start of season 4:
17 races: 17*500=8500
3rd place in season 2: 75
1st place in season 3: 100
=> 8675 boost points.
The boost points can be spent on quali/race skill. The maximum you can spent for one weekend is 500 for each quali and race (so 1000 in total).
These are the base values for each team, bhp and cof always remain the same
Performance=850,850,1500
First Driver=1,Germany,16000,500,17000,500
Some mods
F1 1996 | F1 2002 | F1 2007 | F1 2011 | F1 2013 | F1 2015 | F1 2018
Yes, the system boost works so well in the Nations Cup that in 4 seasons i only manage to win ONE race... 
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X_Acto Wrote:
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> Yes, the system boost works so well in the Nations
> Cup that in 4 seasons i only manage to win ONE
> race...
Unfortunately theres always going to be some element of luck in any AI based series. But the NC boost was made such that using different levels of boost wouldn't necessarily guarentee you a great result but would likely differentiate you from someone who wasn't boosting, which it absolutely does. If you decide to max out boost for a weekend, you won't be racing people who didn't boost at all (except for incidents). With the system for building up boost, we didn't want to make a big enough gap to give anyone a massive advantage, but having an extra 100 boost here or there can make a difference. Its useful to have an incentive for people to stick around and build something up.
The system could perhaps use a little tweaking as we came up with it from a little bit of testing and seeing how it went, but I do think the NC system works well in providing an actual boost.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 11:19AM by truecrysis.
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> Yes, the system boost works so well in the Nations
> Cup that in 4 seasons i only manage to win ONE
> race...
Unfortunately theres always going to be some element of luck in any AI based series. But the NC boost was made such that using different levels of boost wouldn't necessarily guarentee you a great result but would likely differentiate you from someone who wasn't boosting, which it absolutely does. If you decide to max out boost for a weekend, you won't be racing people who didn't boost at all (except for incidents). With the system for building up boost, we didn't want to make a big enough gap to give anyone a massive advantage, but having an extra 100 boost here or there can make a difference. Its useful to have an incentive for people to stick around and build something up.
The system could perhaps use a little tweaking as we came up with it from a little bit of testing and seeing how it went, but I do think the NC system works well in providing an actual boost.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 11:19AM by truecrysis.
Previous seasons? Is it just the two seasons or maybe more than that?
Tbh that isn't really cool towrds newcomers..
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Tbh that isn't really cool towrds newcomers..
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But wasn't that exactly the point of the old perf/boost system? New teams had a really hard stand there in their first season, and often enough barely found drivers to drive for them. And no personal attack, Nathan, but you were one of those complaining about this condition.
Also, not saying that this can't be done for the GPGSL, I just want to mention that this boost system complicates things a lot, both for the drivers but especially for us perf guys. And seeing that it reverses the boost attribution again, by giving more boost to better teams, it'll increase the gap again over time. So I feel that this is just once again a solution with a temporarily good effect for those who are now disappointed that they fell back a little, but that it will cause more frustration again when time progresses.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
Also, not saying that this can't be done for the GPGSL, I just want to mention that this boost system complicates things a lot, both for the drivers but especially for us perf guys. And seeing that it reverses the boost attribution again, by giving more boost to better teams, it'll increase the gap again over time. So I feel that this is just once again a solution with a temporarily good effect for those who are now disappointed that they fell back a little, but that it will cause more frustration again when time progresses.
GPGSL : Team Owner of 'Maverick Track Performance' (MTP)
Brett Sinclair Wrote:
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> And where was my second run to improve my time ?
>
> McCarthy gets his 3rd run started with a climb
> from 17th to 6th place.
>
> I didn't saw that with me and some others...
Exatcly!! De Bruyker only get one lap??? Please, on next time, show for all of us that drivers had the same chances on qualifying (2 laps), like GPGSL-3 make with pit stops (2 stops on full race)!!
Yes, I'm angry! taking screenshots aren't difficult!
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 08:08PM by Rod_vs.
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> And where was my second run to improve my time ?
>
> McCarthy gets his 3rd run started with a climb
> from 17th to 6th place.
>
> I didn't saw that with me and some others...
Exatcly!! De Bruyker only get one lap??? Please, on next time, show for all of us that drivers had the same chances on qualifying (2 laps), like GPGSL-3 make with pit stops (2 stops on full race)!!
Yes, I'm angry! taking screenshots aren't difficult!
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 08:08PM by Rod_vs.
Stoopid Wrote:
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> Just goes to show, you can't please all the people
> all of the time.
>
> We made these changes because of complaints by
> some that all AMR had to do was turn up to win.
> After those changes were made AMR still won the
> title, cue yet more complaints. So, we made a few
> more little tweaks and we had the unusual
> situation in that the championship winning driver
> didn't drive for the championship winning team.
> Also, AMR was knocked off the top. So, did we not
> succeed in what the majority wanted? A more open
> championship?
>
> I mean come on guys, we are only four races into
> the season, when everything is usually mixed up
> anyway.
No, Stu, we didn't discuss BHPs. We know that it's not guarantee of good results on races.
Specially for me and Marcus, we are so disappointed because on qualifying each driver gets two fast laps, and De Bruyker only was showed one time. So, on my position of One Racing manager, of course that I want what happened.
My ask for GPGSL members is: shows, on screenshots, all of drivers laps (taking screenshots aren't more difficult than making videos). It will put doubts from zero. Like I made with full races on GPGSL-3: each driver needs to be two pit stops, and I show, on videos, all of stops. I didn't put none of doubt for drivers.
So simple!!
Remember: it's an ask for next qualifyings!! I hope you understand that this is a request to further improve the championship.
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
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> Just goes to show, you can't please all the people
> all of the time.
>
> We made these changes because of complaints by
> some that all AMR had to do was turn up to win.
> After those changes were made AMR still won the
> title, cue yet more complaints. So, we made a few
> more little tweaks and we had the unusual
> situation in that the championship winning driver
> didn't drive for the championship winning team.
> Also, AMR was knocked off the top. So, did we not
> succeed in what the majority wanted? A more open
> championship?
>
> I mean come on guys, we are only four races into
> the season, when everything is usually mixed up
> anyway.
No, Stu, we didn't discuss BHPs. We know that it's not guarantee of good results on races.
Specially for me and Marcus, we are so disappointed because on qualifying each driver gets two fast laps, and De Bruyker only was showed one time. So, on my position of One Racing manager, of course that I want what happened.
My ask for GPGSL members is: shows, on screenshots, all of drivers laps (taking screenshots aren't more difficult than making videos). It will put doubts from zero. Like I made with full races on GPGSL-3: each driver needs to be two pit stops, and I show, on videos, all of stops. I didn't put none of doubt for drivers.
So simple!!
Remember: it's an ask for next qualifyings!! I hope you understand that this is a request to further improve the championship.
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
kedy89 Wrote:
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> some extremely poor behaviour displayed by ONE...
In GPGSL-3 many people acted similar and I was never sulky. On the contrary, always I heard everyone to try, even as a hobby for all of us, to have nothing wrong.
As I explained: if the driver has two tries in qualifying, they shall be shown on screenshots.
Now, speaking bad of One Racing is easy when it runs by teams that historically have always good BHPs (Aston Martin, Shadow, MPR, SCR...). AMR won four championships in a row and no one ever said anything.
What's the problem that One Racing leads WDC and WCC?
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 08:32PM by Rod_vs.
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> some extremely poor behaviour displayed by ONE...
In GPGSL-3 many people acted similar and I was never sulky. On the contrary, always I heard everyone to try, even as a hobby for all of us, to have nothing wrong.
As I explained: if the driver has two tries in qualifying, they shall be shown on screenshots.
Now, speaking bad of One Racing is easy when it runs by teams that historically have always good BHPs (Aston Martin, Shadow, MPR, SCR...). AMR won four championships in a row and no one ever said anything.
What's the problem that One Racing leads WDC and WCC?
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 08:32PM by Rod_vs.
About race: despite this confusion, I believe in the recovery of our drivers!
And to close the subject: as I said to Stuart, I proposed a suggestion. About who wins or who loses, if the BHP worked or not, that's part of league since the first season!
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 08:34PM by Rod_vs.
And to close the subject: as I said to Stuart, I proposed a suggestion. About who wins or who loses, if the BHP worked or not, that's part of league since the first season!
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2015 08:34PM by Rod_vs.
Rod_vs Schreef:
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> Brett Sinclair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And where was my second run to improve my time
> ?
> >
> > McCarthy gets his 3rd run started with a climb
> > from 17th to 6th place.
> >
> > I didn't saw that with me and some others...
>
>
> Exatcly!! De Bruyker only get one lap??? Please,
> on next time, show for all of us that drivers had
> the same chances on qualifying (2 laps), like
> GPGSL-3 make with pit stops (2 stops on full
> race)!!
>
> Yes, I'm angry! taking screenshots aren't
> difficult!
Marcus and you didn't improve your lap times, that's why there are no screenshots of your second runs which is very understandable.
With qualifying lasting 30 minutes and the correct settings with GPxPatch it's for 100% guaranteed that everyone is making 2 hot laps.
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> Brett Sinclair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And where was my second run to improve my time
> ?
> >
> > McCarthy gets his 3rd run started with a climb
> > from 17th to 6th place.
> >
> > I didn't saw that with me and some others...
>
>
> Exatcly!! De Bruyker only get one lap??? Please,
> on next time, show for all of us that drivers had
> the same chances on qualifying (2 laps), like
> GPGSL-3 make with pit stops (2 stops on full
> race)!!
>
> Yes, I'm angry! taking screenshots aren't
> difficult!
Marcus and you didn't improve your lap times, that's why there are no screenshots of your second runs which is very understandable.
With qualifying lasting 30 minutes and the correct settings with GPxPatch it's for 100% guaranteed that everyone is making 2 hot laps.
Turbo Lover Wrote:
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> Marcus and you didn't improve your lap times,
> that's why there are no screenshots of your second
> runs which is very understandable.
>
> With qualifying lasting 30 minutes and the correct
> settings with GPxPatch it's for 100% guaranteed
> that everyone is making 2 hot laps.
OK, Ruben. I'll accept this explanation. Let's go in front of season!
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
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> Marcus and you didn't improve your lap times,
> that's why there are no screenshots of your second
> runs which is very understandable.
>
> With qualifying lasting 30 minutes and the correct
> settings with GPxPatch it's for 100% guaranteed
> that everyone is making 2 hot laps.
OK, Ruben. I'll accept this explanation. Let's go in front of season!
One Racing driver and team manager
GPGSL-3: champion in 2007/2013/2014!
GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
You are already in front of the season. 
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I'm a total dick. How many people can say that?
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