Soon.....

Kimi-The-Champ schrieb:
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> @René Smit
> Great work, thank you very much!
> Now we need the Knock-Out-Qualifying, Saftey Car
> and an online mode.
>
> i know we discus often about these things, but it
> is impossibly to make these things? I'm not a
> software developer, i can hardware only


Implementing knock-out qualifying into the GP4-code might be to 99% impossible. But you can already simulate it yourself .

SafetyCar, hm... You can also simulate it yourself, respectively restart the race with the starting grid you wish .

OnlineMod - Well, they say it is impossible, because GP4 cannot handle online-connection. But if you ask me, if GP4 can handle LAN, it MUST be possible for sure, in any way. Maybe once we will get it working, but I'm not that optimistic.

KERS and DRS are missing too. They both do only work optical so far. Sadly the source code structure will make it veeeeery difficult to implement such features in GP4 .

---> So better stay realistic and lets be happy with every improvement we got so far .

SDI Wrote:
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> Maybe, but as nobody is near that area, who will
> notice? I don't think I know when a car is being
> pushed or towed away.

Truee, except that if a car reaches the danger zone while the car is still being pushed away the lap counter will once again turn yellow, making you think there's a new problem :/ I'm currently doing a degree in Software Engineering, so gimme a year or so and I'll be able to give more to the community.

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"Anything can happen in Grand Prix racing, and it usually does."
"The lead car is unique, except for the one behind it which is identical."

spencer4242 schrieb:
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> Truee, except that if a car reaches the danger
> zone while the car is still being pushed away the
> lap counter will once again turn yellow, making
> you think there's a new problem :/ I'm currently
> doing a degree in Software Engineering, so gimme a
> year or so and I'll be able to give more to the
> community.

Nice, guys like you are allways needed, not only for GP4 .

damn, I've missed this thread!

It looks awesome mate! Just what I need when Im gonna drive the latest seasons!
Great work!


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Ice Hockey is my Religion!

klausfeldmann schrieb:
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> Kimi-The-Champ schrieb:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @René Smit
> > Great work, thank you very much!
> > Now we need the Knock-Out-Qualifying, Saftey
> Car
> > and an online mode.
> >
> > i know we discus often about these things, but
> it
> > is impossibly to make these things? I'm not a
> > software developer, i can hardware only
>
>
> Implementing knock-out qualifying into the
> GP4-code might be to 99% impossible. But you can
> already simulate it yourself .
>
> SafetyCar, hm... You can also simulate it
> yourself, respectively restart the race with the
> starting grid you wish .
>
> OnlineMod - Well, they say it is impossible,
> because GP4 cannot handle online-connection. But
> if you ask me, if GP4 can handle LAN, it MUST be
> possible for sure, in any way. Maybe once we will
> get it working, but I'm not that optimistic.
>
> KERS and DRS are missing too. They both do only
> work optical so far. Sadly the source code
> structure will make it veeeeery difficult to
> implement such features in GP4 .
>
> ---> So better stay realistic and lets be happy
> with every improvement we got so far .

i mean virtual online, like hamachi.
the data package for hamachi and other programs are too big. but i think if it possible to compress the files. but like i sayed, i'm not a developer

Kimi-The-Champ schrieb:
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> the data package for hamachi and other programs
> are too big.


Was thinking about this as well. Grand Prix 4 apparently sends massive amounts of data around the globe when trying to drive online. Now I asked a friend of mine and he said that one could read out what data is sent. Is this possible? And if it is possible, would it be possible to code a program that blocks GP4 from sending data and instead sends the data itself, erasing unuseful datas and stuff? When getting these files, the program could add the data that's erased because its the same for everyone.
Hope, you get my idea. Unfortunately I couldn't do anything about my theory, so it'll most likely remain a theory. Also, if the packages are protected, I doubt it could be possible.
Greetings
Silverman

i hope Rene can say anything about this or have experience

Yes now, I also would like to hear SDI about this idea .

If GP4 sends this high amount of data throung the network only as a kind of "license protection" (Microprose didn't buy a license for an online-mod; that's the only reason, why GP4 hasn't got one), it might be possible to decrease the amount of data.
But if GP4 really needs all the data to work stable in multiplayer, it seems to be impossible to enable an online-multiplayer.

I'm excited to see how this idea goes on .

I don't think GP4 sends a lot of data, I think it just waits for a response before rendering the next frame. As you know, GP4 has locked the frame rate for both graphics and physics together, and I suspect it has also locked the network code to it. This is not a big problem on low latency local area networks, but on the internet it will be too slow.

In theory I could handle the data myself, but there's much more to network play than sending data. Most importantly synhronization between all the clients. So I wouldn't dream about it too much.

René Smit, Independent Software Developer.
Download my GPx tools here.



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SDI schrieb:
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> In theory I could handle the data myself, but
> there's much more to network play than sending
> data. Most importantly synhronization between all
> the clients. So I wouldn't dream about it too
> much.

Maybe we really will never be able to handle GP4-playing online, but I think dreaming was exactly, what kept GP4 alive over the last 11 years. And just look at, what we already achieved so far .

Of course you can dream about new features But I really meant that I'm not the one who's gonna do it (maybe someone else will).

René Smit, Independent Software Developer.
Download my GPx tools here.

I'll take a closer look at what I thought. However chances are I won't achieve anything. Can't use a single coding language however. Have a friend who can and probably will ask him as well but obviously I can't promise anything, and I'm not able to code a simple "Hello world"-program (well, I can, but that's about it).
Greetings
Silverman

to come back to the main thread discussion how it's that work coming up Renè have you got some progress to show us?cheers

Greetings
Alessio


CoM3 oN McL4R3n.....

I was working on the classification but it's not done yet. Maybe I will leave it for the next version

I also added race control messages. For example:



And I spent some time to add more track manager features.

René Smit, Independent Software Developer.
Download my GPx tools here.

Great work SDI, can't wait for a release! :D

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"Anything can happen in Grand Prix racing, and it usually does."
"The lead car is unique, except for the one behind it which is identical."

It's getting better and better!

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My Grand Prix 4 Files
I'm a total dick. How many people can say that?

Waiting for the first version

Great Work SDI! Thanks....

AYRTON SENNA FOREVER!

thanks a lot mate,it does look always better and very accurate keep it up

Greetings
Alessio


CoM3 oN McL4R3n.....

Fantastic job,

congratulations.


Bye.


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