The 2012 Formula One Season

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 05:55PM
Posted by: Anonymous User
I thought Jaime would stay, but I'm not surprised about Buemi.


These two should be great!

How many French drivers is that now.... Pic, Vergne and Grosjean.

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 05:58PM
Posted by: Incident 2k9
Is that the most French drivers since 1999?

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 06:08PM
Posted by: J i m
That sucks for Jamie, he was comingly along very nicely indeed, and Buemi wasn't useless either. Neither were a Scott Speed fair.

Yeah 3 French drivers! It's getting quite retro, they'll want a Grand Prix back now :-O

Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 06:35PM
Posted by: danm
AMAZING!

About time both of those got given the boot.

They've had enough time to 'prove' themselves.

I would have thought JA deserved one more season to do something spectacular, and more annoyingly, the Toro Rosso has got a lot better late season.

Either way, change is refreshing!


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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 07:19PM
Posted by: Carlitox
This is the injustice of the year (before it has even started!), and I'm talking about Alguersuari.

The injustice of '09 (IMO) was Bourdais' departure, the one of '10 was Hulkenberg's, '11 was Heidfeld's and now '12 is Alguersuari's.

I can't see why they dropped him.. he's great, he has a great deal of skill, he can win races if he's given the right car (how many people manage to get a 2011 STR in the Q3 so clearly?). For me, Buemi deserved the sack. I wish he's given a drive, but many excellent drivers have been (and are being) dropped for next season. A totally unfair decision by STR/RBR/whoever.

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 07:38PM
Posted by: airefresco
Carlitox Wrote:
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> This is the injustice of the year (before it has
> even started!), and I'm talking about
> Alguersuari.
>
> The injustice of '09 (IMO) was Bourdais'
> departure, the one of '10 was Hulkenberg's, '11
> was Heidfeld's and now '12 is Alguersuari's.
>
> I can't see why they dropped him.. he's great, he
> has a great deal of skill, he can win races if
> he's given the right car (how many people manage
> to get a 2011 STR in the Q3 so clearly?). For me,
> Buemi deserved the sack. I wish he's given a
> drive, but many excellent drivers have been (and
> are being) dropped for next season. A totally
> unfair decision by STR/RBR/whoever.

100% agree with this. Jaime could of possible been Webbers replacement if he continued to improve like he did this year.
Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 08:49PM
Posted by: matt3454
Alguersuari was maybe pushed into the seat way too early in his career, which has been his downfall, hes the same age as Vergne i think, definitley has potential.

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 11:26PM
Posted by: gav
Toro Rosso/Red Bull have seen all 4 drivers in the car last year, have seen the traces and heard the feedback, so they know what they're getting and losing.

I fully expect Jaime will end up as the Red Bull reserve driver.
Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 14, 2011 11:29PM
Posted by: danm
I see Alg getting a shot in Webbers seat for 2013, but that requires some sort of drive in 2012 to be on the ball, surely?


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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 15, 2011 12:31AM
Posted by: davidm
How on earth would you think Alg would get a full Red Bull seat if let go by TR. Sorry that makes no sense. Maybe one of these new two, more likely Ricciardo but Red Bull may likely look for a bigger name.
Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 15, 2011 01:30AM
Posted by: flat tyre
When Red Bull bought Toro Rosso, they weren't a front running team, so it would have been easy for them to sign a driver from Toro Rosso.

Now that Red Bull are one of the best on the grid, they can't really afford to do that anymore, which is a shame because that was the whole reason they bought Minardi and created Toro Rosso.

So I think that Alguesuari could only get a seat at Red Bull if he gets experience elsewhere. It would be crazy if he didn't at least get a test driver role.

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 15, 2011 10:44AM
Posted by: J i m
It's not so much Toro Rosso dropping anyone, they pretty much have to play with any driver they're given. The real person behind this ruthlessness is Marko he's the main guru behind Red Bull's driver development thing. And Toro Rosso was basically created to give the best Red Bull up n comers a chance in F1 so that the works team didn't have to and could behave like a well established top team which would traditionally poach drivers from other teams once they'd gone through their proofing process.

Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 15, 2011 02:29PM
Posted by: chet
I like the look of JEV. He's abit crash happy but I think he has an Alesi aggressive-ness :p! I watched the Bercy kart event and he was pretty okay there, though I figure whoever started on the first two rows had an easy ride given the chaos that went on behind. Still, he won Massa's kart event too until he got DQ'd (600 grams underweight!!!!!!!!!).

I know it is no gauge on how well he will fare in F1, but he seems a tad more special than either Buemi or Alg.

I quite liked Jaime though, he will get another chance in F1 no doubt.

For the frenchies out there, zero drivers to 3 :)! And one of them who is pretty handy, and the other looking to be decent.






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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 15, 2011 03:33PM
Posted by: SchueyFan
chet Wrote:
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> Still, he won Massa's kart
> event too until he got DQ'd (600 grams
> underweight!!!!!!!!!).

IIRC that was Bianchi, not Vergne.





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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 15, 2011 09:02PM
Posted by: flat tyre
chet Wrote:
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> I know it is no gauge on how well he will fare in
> F1, but he seems a tad more special than either
> Buemi or Alg.

Well... Jaime came 2nd in Massa's kart race (1st after the DQ), and like Ed said Vergne didn't win. We're ripping you to pieces, Chet ;)

Seriously, though, I know what you mean. Alguesuari and Buemi are difficult to judge. But I think Alguesuari's got potential, and deserves another drive.

And france have Bianchi at Ferrari, too, so who knows? Maybe the grid will be full of cheese eating surrender monkeys, like the German drivers this year!

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 16, 2011 12:16PM
Posted by: danm
F1 needs another underdog with brilliance. I thought we had a new Alesi in Kobyashi, but he has dipped off the radar lately.


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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 16, 2011 03:55PM
Posted by: matt3454
DRS and KERS killed off Kobayashi.

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Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 16, 2011 04:44PM
Posted by: J i m
Hulkenberg and Di Reta confirmed at Findia.

Sutil will be clutching his various sponsor monies as he bangs on Sir Frank's door now. In fairness he's probably the best backed prospect available to Williams now. Though I'd still prefer Rubens. Alguersauri would be good but I think that's very unlikely.

Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 16, 2011 05:30PM
Posted by: Anonymous User
Happy about Hulkenberg. Wasted talent as a tester
Re: The 2012 Formula One Season
Date: December 16, 2011 07:04PM
Posted by: Nuvolari
J i m Wrote:
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> Hulkenberg and Di Reta confirmed at Findia.
>
> Sutil will be clutching his various sponsor monies
> as he bangs on Sir Frank's door now. In fairness
> he's probably the best backed prospect available
> to Williams now. Though I'd still prefer Rubens.
> Alguersauri would be good but I think that's very
> unlikely.


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