The Official 2009 Malaysian GP Thread *spoilers*

turkey_machine Wrote:
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> I think Brawn are majorly sandbagging with a lot
> of fuel for practice. The Ferrari's are quick, but
> I don't think that'll carry through to the race,
> especially if the KERS keeps doing what happened
> to Raikkonen's car. The Williams have good pace,
> as seemingly do McLaren.

I may have been dozy after the race, but did Ross Brawn say that they ran with fuel in practice?

Ferrari were quick, just not quick enough to get Massa out!

Williams and Toyota and Red Bull are gonna push Brawn all the way, especially Vettel even with the penalty!

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Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld

GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.

Not sure where he got it from though, i cant find it on the FIA site yet.
If its real, well, Button looks good for the win if its dry. Dont know why toyotas would be same. Raikkonen not as heavy as i expected.
Interesting Kovy would be so heavy compared to hamilton, considering where they qualified..once again fuel correct, Hamilton would be outqualified i think.


someone on pf1 forum says this:

Button Brawn BGP 001-Mercedes – 660,0
Jarno Trulli Toyota TF109 – 656,5
Timo Glock Toyota TF109 – 656,5
Rosberg Williams FW31-Toyota – 656,0
Webber Red Bull RB5-Renault – 656,0
Kubica BMW Sauber F1.09 – 663,0
Räikkönen Ferrari F60 – 662,5
Alonso Renault R29 – 680,5
Barrichello Brawn BGP 001-Mercedes – 664,5
Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1.09 – 692,0
Nakajima Williams FW31-Toyota – 683,4
Hamilton McLaren MP4-24-Mercedes – 688,0
Vettel Red Bull RB5-Renault – 647,0
Kovalainen McLaren MP4-24-Mercedes 1- 688,9
Bourdais Toro Rosso STR4-Ferrari – 670,5
Massa Ferrari F60 1- 689,5
Piquet Renault R29 – 681,9
Fisichella Force India VJM02-Mercedes – 680,5
Sutil Force India VJM02-Mercedes – 655,5
Buemi Toro Rosso STR4-Ferrari – 686,5





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2009 04:25PM by DJSKYLINE.

yes, a good performance by heikki if that is accurate. also, vettel was extremely light, and he could get caught up amongst heavier runners if he isn't careful

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X (@ed24f1)

Its only the top 10 that counts really for weight as the others can run what they want and in quali they were light. So no Kovy did not do that time on that fuel load.

Button's time is even more impressive tbh due to the fuel load.

The Hamilton fuel load above is listed wrong. It's 688.0kg, not 668.0kg.

All the others are correct.

marcl Wrote:
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> Its only the top 10 that counts really for weight
> as the others can run what they want and in quali
> they were light. So no Kovy did not do that time
> on that fuel load.

Ah yes Marcl, totally forgot.

Ah right, will edit post to correct hamiltons

hmm Alonso said after Q that he wanted to be in top 5-7 and yet he is the most heavily fueled in the top ten. Too high expectations?

Woah!
Jenson was the heavier than Trulli and still set a faster time!

Also, here are the weights in order. Courtesy of F1 Live


1 . S. Vettel - Red Bull Renault RB5 - 647.0
2 . A. Sutil - Force India Mercedes VJM02 - 655.5 *
3 . N.Rosberg - Williams Toyota FW31 - 656.0
4 . M. Webber - Red Bull Renault RB5 - 656.0
5 . J. Trulli - Toyota TF109 - 656.5
6 . T. Glock - Toyota TF109 - 656.5
7 . J. Button - Brawn Mercedes BGP 001 - 660.0
8 . K. Raikkonen - Ferrari F60 - 662.5
9 . R. Kubica - BMW Sauber F1.09 - 663.0
10 . R. Barrichello - Brawn Mercedes BGP 001 - 664.5
11 . S. Bourdais - Toro Rosso Ferrari STR4 - 670.5 *
12 . F. Alonso - Renault R29 - 680.5
13 . G. Fisichella - Force India Mercedes VJM02 - 680.5 *
14 . N. Piquet - Renault R29 - 681.9 *
15 . K. Nakajima - Williams Toyota FW31 - 683.4 *
16 . S. Buemi - Toro Rosso Ferrari STR4 - 686.5 *
17 . L. Hamilton - McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 - 688.0 *
18 . H. Kovalainen - McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 - 688.9 *
19 . F. Massa - Ferrari F60 - 689.5. *

rofl it seems they put fuel in every place they could find of Massa's car

Anyways, perhaps in the end Felipe was the lucky one, now at least he can change the setup for rainy conditions in case of.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2009 07:13PM by Rodrigo007.

Rodrigo007 Wrote:
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> rofl it seems they put fuel in every place they
> could find of Massa's car

Obviously the BMW has more places to hide fuel, as Heidfeld is the heaviest with another 2.5kg, but is missing off that list.

Rodrigo007 Wrote:
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> rofl it seems they put fuel in every place they
> could find of Massa's car

Including the cockpit Felipe is going to run sumberged in fuel

lol

@gav: oh, thanks by the info!



btw, regarding the rain tyres issue, the one wet version only is now going to be implemented only in next season (2010).

Just a thought.

With rain expected i imagine not too long after the race start ( i guess we dont know that, iam just guessing :p ) I half expected some short first stints, and at least a shorter one from Massa. A) to get a cleaner start in a messy part of the grid, and B) with the possible prospect of rain, and the obvious need to change tyres, a shorter stint could get Massa high up in the order before the rain falls...

But this is without knowing the forcast, or any of the data the teams have :p It was just logical thinking lol!

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

Conversely, the more you fuel the car up, the more chance you have that you can pit for both fuel and wet tyres if it rains, rather than pitting for fuel and then pitting 2 laps later for wets. That's the normally accepted form.

After qualifying today there was a huge thunderstorm. I have the feeling we'll somehow dodge all the rain all weekend and end up with a rather boring race (in comparison to what the rest of the season should be like).

Was watching the start of the 2001 race earlier, and was reminded that the chances of rain during the race was low, it would only be a sprinkling if it did rain and that any rain was only going to be later in the race. So yeah... good luck Meteo-France tomorrow. :P

I do do do hope though it is dry at the start and at least for an hours worth or race time because that way I dont think the rain could impact too much on the top guys, in which I hope JB and RB to be amungst!!!!

Mark Webber is going to be the one to watch imo.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

Spot Sutil's fuel-load. Gamble?

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Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld

GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.

Two practices in a row now that Heidfeld has been heaviest. Hard to know how he'll go cause his last race was over before it started.

Alonso's one is interesting...He was obviously determined to get into the Top 10, but then when he did he just acted as if he hadn't got in and filled up the car

Expect Sutil to barge ahead off the line. He's well lighter than those around him

The Lopper Wrote:
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> Expect Sutil to barge ahead off the line. He's
> well lighter than those around him

He'll get Fisichella and Bourdais at best as all the others have KERS.

Unless he does a Verstappen 2001 into turn 1.

The Lopper Wrote:
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> Alonso's one is interesting...He was obviously
> determined to get into the Top 10, but then when
> he did he just acted as if he hadn't got in and
> filled up the car

I think he used up all his soft-tires in q1 and q2 so there was no point in trying as he probably would have ended up 10th anyway.

gav Wrote:
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> The Lopper Wrote:
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> > Expect Sutil to barge ahead off the line. He's
> > well lighter than those around him
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> He'll get Fisichella and Bourdais at best as all
> the others have KERS.
>
> Unless he does a Verstappen 2001 into turn 1.

What he needs is to avoid doing a Ralf 2001 into Turn 1

But agreed, he's unlikely to make much impression, he doesn't have the car underneath him to do that.
What he might well do is be one of the few who start the race on softs.

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