Japanese Grand Prix Thread !!!***Spoilers***!!!

Different sites have different sources have different weather predictions, but rain doesn't look like hitting Sundays race. If it rained that would be great, Massa in the wall isn't a bad thing.

However a wet qualifying may shift things around, Vettel front row if it did rain.

Shinnbob Wrote:
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> If it rained that
> would be great, Massa in the wall isn't a bad
> thing.

Yes, Its an awesome thing!

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Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> Bruninho schreef:
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> > I want rain. Even more than in the 2007 Fuji
> event
> > or it will be a bore-fest for me again.
>
>
> more rain then 2007 means no race, no-one wants
> that.


Wouldnt be bad either, means that they wouldnt waste 2 hours of their lives in a crap track, and Irvine would agree :P

*CHEERING* "SUZUKA! SUZUKA! SUZUKA!" *CHEERING*

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/09/2008 11:43PM by Bruninho.

marcl Wrote:
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> I am going to be really pissed off if either kimi
> or kovy have to move over to let their team mates
> get extra points.


Tell that to Kovalainen in Germany.

Guimengo Wrote:
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> marcl Wrote:
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> > I am going to be really pissed off if either
> kimi
> > or kovy have to move over to let their team
> mates
> > get extra points.
>
>
> Tell that to Kovalainen in Germany.


Ich werde mich wirklich zufriedener, wenn entweder Kimi
oder kovy haben, um über zu vermieten ihre Mannschaftskameraden bekommen Extra-Punkte.

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matt3454 Wrote:
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> Guimengo Wrote:
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> > marcl Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > I am going to be really pissed off if either
> > kimi
> > > or kovy have to move over to let their team
> > mates
> > > get extra points.
> >
> >
> > Tell that to Kovalainen in Germany.
>
>
> Ich werde mich wirklich zufriedener, wenn entweder
> Kimi
> oder kovy haben, um über zu vermieten ihre
> Mannschaftskameraden bekommen Extra-Punkte.


hmm translating back to english it reads "I will be really happy if either Kimi
or kovy have to have to let their teammates get extra points."

Does pissed off mean happy in German then?

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matt3454 schrieb:
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> matt3454 Wrote:
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> > Guimengo Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > marcl Wrote:
> > >
> >
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>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I am going to be really pissed off if
> either
> > > kimi
> > > > or kovy have to move over to let their team
> > > mates
> > > > get extra points.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tell that to Kovalainen in Germany.
> >
> >
> > Ich werde mich wirklich zufriedener, wenn
> entweder
> > Kimi
> > oder kovy haben, um über zu vermieten ihre
> > Mannschaftskameraden bekommen Extra-Punkte.
>
>
> hmm translating back to english it reads "I will
> be really happy if either Kimi
> or kovy have to have to let their teammates get
> extra points."
>
> Does pissed off mean happy in German then?

nope

and if i would translate it back into english it would be something like:

i will be really happy if either kimi or kovy have to lend their teammates in order to get extra points.

now imagine how that sentence would read with crap grammar.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2008 02:25AM by n00binio.

sasjag Wrote:
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> This is on at that damn awkward time for me, where
> its slightly too late to stay up and watch, but
> way to early to justify going to bed and getting
> up for :\

Totally agreed, it's on at a nightmare of a time in the UK. My way round it: I'm usually out clubbing on Saturday nights so I usually get home just in time to catch the start of the build up, TV on/VCR running, plenty of strong coffee keeps me fired up for the race. I can get away with it cos I don't have to be anywhere on Sunday till 5pm

>
> Still not sure what to make of this track, i
> always enjoyed driving it on various racing sims,
> but i have no idea what sort of race it will
> produce in the dry. I'm hoping for a Lewis Voctory
> and a Ferrari-Fail.

I hope there's rain involved somewhere, but not like last year - a race that's dry at the start with a few showers would be cool. If it's wet in quali expect the Ferraris to be well down as their car doesn't go well in those conditions. Good chance for Lewis to extend his championship lead this weekend.

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So Glock is fastest in a Toyota on a Toyota owned track. Suprise.

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Ferrari and Mclaren seemed to be very very close even on long runs.

The green paint comes off the rear tyres after 5 laps and u have no idea if its soft or not.

looks like moss

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marcl Wrote:
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> Ferrari and Mclaren seemed to be very very close
> even on long runs.
>
> The green paint comes off the rear tyres after 5
> laps and u have no idea if its soft or not.


that "invention" has to be the stupidest in the f1 world imo.

What was interesting though mclaren wore the green paint off alot faster than ferrari did. Mclaren fronts lost the paint the ferrari's did not seem to.

whos betting that nelson will be the first one to crash out like a n00b again?

I think it will be Nakajima with Boredais (on purpose)

Mclaren have had problems all year with more tyre wear over long runs so am not too suprised they are losing the green stripes first.

Remember they're quite efficient at getting their tires warm, and they still fare quite well despite the rubber being worn down.

marcl Wrote:
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> What was interesting though mclaren wore the green
> paint off alot faster than ferrari did. Mclaren
> fronts lost the paint the ferrari's did not seem
> to.

It's not necessarily the amount of wear that's the problem though, it's the effect of it and potentially the cause of it.

If the reason is they are over-using their front tyres and simply overheating them early on, then it's a bigger problem. If it's just getting down off the surface and into the more consistent rubber, then it's probably not so much of a negative and may actually prove beneficial to them over the course of a stint.

All depends on what they're going for.

I was surprised to see the outsides of the tyres appearing to wear more than insides though, but that could simply be the grains of rubber being pushed laterally across the tyre under load, giving the impression of more wear on the outsides.

Of course, with the limited running in the dry last year (the 2 Friday sessions), they still don't have that much data, so they're probably still finding their way, setup wise, 12 months on.



Stan Wrote:
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> whos betting that nelson will be the first one to
> crash out like a n00b again?

I'd put money on their being no crashes at all. We've been spoiled in recent races. Though I guess if everyone misses him, I guess Piquet will manage to find walls we previously hadn't known existed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2008 08:32PM by gav.

Thats the one good thing about the green grooves we can see tyre wear on different cars.

marcl Wrote:
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> Thats the one good thing about the green grooves
> we can see tyre wear on different cars.

The point was, wear doesn't necessarily mean anything. Unless it gets to an extreme, or you're in critical circumstances (like Monaco), wear as a percentage isn't a concern. It's where the tyres end up as a result, and what may be a poor situation for one car may play into the hands of another.