Valencia Testing (21-23 January 2008)

calimbo Wrote:
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> wow vesuvius, u always defending the team were
> raikkonen is...


well currently I don't support any teams really but Ferrari,McLaren and Williams are my 3 teams that I follow and cheer for. and yes Kimi is my favourite driver and there is nothing bad about that because everyone have their favourite driver

Here's those "antlers" that Kubica has been testing recently...

Nevermind, repost



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2008 11:05AM by loque.

todays times :


coureur team wagen tijd verschil #
1. H. Kovalainen McLaren MP4-23 1:11.000 89 pit
2. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:11.662 +0.662 81 pit
3. K. Räikkönen Ferrari F2008 1:11.850 +0.850 108 pit
4. L. Hamilton McLaren MP4-23 1:12.076 +1.076 115 pit
5. K. Nakajima Williams FW29B 1:12.255 +1.255 90 pit
6. F. Alonso Renault R28 1:12.360 +1.360 109 pit
7. N. Rosberg Williams FW30 1:12.493 +1.493 117 pit
8. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB4 1:12.594 +1.594 86 pit
9. N. Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1.08 1:12.976 +1.976 51 pit
10. S. Vettel Toro Rosso STR2 1:13.015 +2.015 63 pit
11. T. Glock Toyota TF108 1:13.129 +2.129 90 pit
12. R. Kubica BMW Sauber F1.07B 1:13.230 +2.230 119 pit
13. S. Bourdais Toro Rosso STR2 1:13.307 +2.307 112 pit
14. A. Sutil Force India F8-VII 1:13.409 +2.409 94 pit
15. J. Trulli Toyota TF108 1:13.547 +2.547 96 pit
16. R. Barrichello Honda RA108 1:14.588 +3.588 31 pit
17. T. Kogure Honda RA107 1:16.954 +5.954 40 pit

i suspect kovy was on a low fuel run??

But its not the mclaren making funny engine sounds coming out of corners

marcl Wrote:
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> But its not the mclaren making funny engine sounds
> coming out of corners


and none of the sites tell it's Ferrari either but let's wait and see what happends and comes up..wouldn't be the first time that Ferrari cheats with electronic aids...

some testing reports from valencia :

- Kovalainen on his superlap: ''I wanted to get to know the feeling of the car with little fuel.''

''Yesterday I was only fourth but it was just as good considering the circumstances.''

- Ferrari wasn't particularly looking to set fast times and both drivers once again two different programmes. Raikkonen was doing the long runs (at the end of the afternoon he did a long run with an runrivalled average time of 1:12) whereas Massa did shorter runs, doing three (relatively slow laps) to then speed up again (system checks - AFCA ?).

Comparison between the two topteams: over one lap McLaren has a slight advantage, whereas Ferrari beats them over a long distance.

- The first set-up work on the Renault worked out well, Alonso was constantly setting low 1:13's and was able to keep up the pace of Kovalainen who was on track at the same time at some stage. The Spaniard's best time, a 1.12.380 was set on a long run.

-Today Rosberg simulated a race distance. Over the course of the simulation the laptimes kept going down, which goes to indicate the FW30 is kind to the tyres. The last lap of the simulation, a 1.12,729, was the fastest. Michael: ''Not bad for a second testday. We're on the right way in terms of reliability.''

Rosberg: ''When we'll find the right set-up window, then the new car is better in every area compared to the old one.''

- The second testday for Red Bull was more positive than the first. Webber who ended up in the topteam: ''I didn't have to push myself once. The car could become something (good), considering the fact the old front- and rearwing are still mounted on the car.''

The team is still driving with the basic version of the RB4, the covering of the wishbones is the next step but the (new) parts arrived in Valencia one day late. Marko isn't worried though: ''For us it's only important to rack up the mileage. Reliability was our big weakpoint last year. But we can already say now: the new gearbox keeps up.''

- BMW Sauber confirmed yesterday's (bad) form. The team comforts itself saying it knows the problems.

- The Toyota's are running like clockwork but they're one second behind the frontrunners. Glock: ''We're fine reliability wise, now we need to find the pace.''

- Technical chief Nakamoto from Honda: ''There are still many aerodynamical parts missing. We were first willing the car to make laps, to check out all the systems.''

- Gascoyne: ''We're only doing mileage on the 'critical' components (gearbox ?). The first real aerodynamical face lift for Force India will come in February.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2008 12:42PM by vesuvius.

vesuvius Wrote:
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> marcl Wrote:
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> > But its not the mclaren making funny engine
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> and none of the sites tell it's Ferrari either


Official news and facts are 2 different things.. Anyway I havent been watching and listening videos from testing or readed even any rumours like that.

Kimi, so, Massa Fernando Sebastian is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?

IWE schreef:
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> > > But its not the mclaren making funny engine
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> Official news and facts are 2 different things..
> Anyway I havent been watching and listening
> videos from testing or readed even any rumours
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if ferrari has it then mclaren has it to... they developed the system their own, if someone knows best how to change the system then its mclaren.

It looks like some people have managed to crack the code, it is microsoft after all.

todays times so far :

Testtijden Update: 13:29
coureur team wagen tijd verschil #
1. K. Räikkönen Ferrari F2008 1:11.189 33 pit
2. H. Kovalainen McLaren MP4-23 1:11.206 +0.017 35 pit
3. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:11.831 +0.642 45 pit
4. K. Nakajima Williams FW30 1:11.971 +0.782 45 pit
5. R. Kubica BMW Sauber F1.08 1:12.095 +0.906 69 pit
6. S. Vettel Toro Rosso STR2 1:12.526 +1.337 47 pit
7. N. Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1.07B 1:12.600 +1.411 25 pit
8. T. Glock Toyota TF108 1:12.705 +1.516 15 pit
9. L. Hamilton McLaren MP4-23 1:12.847 +1.658 36 pit
10. G. Fisichella Force India F8-VII 1:12.949 +1.760 57 pit
11. N. Piquet Jr. Renault R28 1:13.029 +1.840 57 pit
12. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB4 1:13.133 +1.944 15 pit
13. S. Bourdais Toro Rosso STR2 1:13.191 +2.002 47 pit
14. J. Trulli Toyota TF108 1:13.201 +2.012 47 pit
15. N. Hülkenberg Williams FW29B 1:13.306 +2.117 50 pit
16. J. Button Honda RA108 1:13.993 +2.804 30 pit
17. T. Kogure Honda RA107 1:15.703 +4.514 25 pit


Raikkonen made quite an impressive stint:

1:11.921, 1:11.945, 1:11.897 1:11.375, 1:11.442, 1:11.696.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/24/2008 06:15AM by vesuvius.

Where do you get this info?

elemental Wrote:
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> Where do you get this info?


from :

[forums.autosport.com]

[www.f1today.nl]

[www.theprancinghorse.co.uk]

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looks better for bmw, although its surprising to see heidfeld back in the F1.07B

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looks worse for bmw, as williams are constantly ahead of them. they are currently 4th fastest team after racing as 3rd fastest all last year.

Looks like Honda is gonna make a clean sheet of 16th and 17th places in testing this week.

Valencia is never really a good gauge on performance. Its slow and tight, not an F1 track.

Being quick here wont mean anything. Look at Giancarlos time for instance, and even the lap record that still remains set by DC's MP4-19A. Come Australia we saw how not so quick that car was

These websites giving out times are only showing half the picture. They only release a few laps. Nothing to read it into.

Next week at Barcelona will be a much more interesting test for whoever is going.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

todays final times :

todays final times :


1. K. Räikkönen Ferrari F2008 1:11.189 88 pit
2. H. Kovalainen McLaren MP4-23 1:11.206 +0.017 89 pit
3. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:11.831 +0.642 96 pit
4. K. Nakajima Williams FW30 1:11.971 +0.782 116 pit
5. L. Hamilton McLaren MP4-23 1:11.994 +0.805 84 pit
6. R. Kubica BMW Sauber F1.08 1:12.095 +0.906 86 pit
7. J. Trulli Toyota TF108 1:12.109 +0.920 96 pit
8. S. Vettel Toro Rosso STR2 1:12.526 +1.337 113 pit
9. N. Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1.07B 1:12.600 +1.411 39 pit
10. T. Glock Toyota TF108 1:12.705 +1.516 68 pit
11. G. Fisichella Force India F8-VII 1:12.949 +1.760 93 pit
12. N. Piquet Jr. Renault R28 1:12.973 +1.784 89 pit
13. S. Bourdais Toro Rosso STR2 1:13.060 +1.871 95 pit
14. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB4 1:13.133 +1.944 15 pit
15. N. Hülkenberg Williams FW29B 1:13.306 +2.117 74 pit
16. J. Button Honda RA108 1:13.689 +2.500 80 pit
17. T. Kogure Honda RA107 1:15.703 +4.514 25 pit

so bmw on a hot lap is 8 tenths slower than ferrari and mclaren.

Uf...this guy starts to be a little arrogant, honestly. Keep talking about Alonso again and again...
[en.f1-live.com]

Alonso has been far more respectful once he is out of McLaren than Lewis.