Brazilian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***

Not so much that the BMW and Williams were legal, it sounds like McLaren are going to have to prove they weren't legal. It's not gonna happen.

the whole temperature thing is unscientific, and any advantage caused by cooler fuel would only last a lap or two as it heated up to match the boiling hot car's temperature.

what really stinks about the whole thing is how perfectly coincidentally the only cars pulled about this are the ones directly in front of Lewis. Nakajima's fuel also gave readings of fuel more than 10C cooler than ambient, but is not under suspicion. is this only because only points-scoring cars are investigated if this happens?

so if all 22 cars gave dodgy fuel readings, would only the top-8 be investigated?

and even if these 3 cars are thrown out from the Brazilian result, it doesn't in any way mean that Lewis will automatically be elevated to 4th place, it's up to the stewards if they move the next guy up or not. so Autosport have suggested that the most likely outcome will be that the 3 cars will be DQ'ed, but Lewis will remain in 7th, thus not affecting Kimi or Lewis.

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RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael

IMO, the most likely outcome is that nothing will happen at all...

Also, just a thought, Brazil shows how much F1 is still pretty much on the limit, well some teams.

Honda's engines failures were down to overheating because of the un-anticipated temperatures (or thats what they say). To me that says that to get any kind of pace out of the engines, Honda needed to pretty much run them at the limit and on the basis that it would be cool, leaving no room for high temperatures. The engine is the weakest on the grid, and my guess is Honda tried to compensate.

This winter is going to much relief, but alot of work, if they get anywhere near the 2006 pace, it will be a miracle.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

What worries me is the complete engine freeze. If Honda end up getting stuck with this engine, then the next few years are going to be pretty miserable for them. Then again, who knows, maybe they will develop a super aero package to cancel this out? *snaps back into reality mode* this is Honda we're talking about...

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Fincent Wrote:
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> What worries me is the complete engine freeze. If
> Honda end up getting stuck with this engine, then
> the next few years are going to be pretty
> miserable for them.

Mandy Mosely could grant them booster rockets mate, and still wouldn't improve. Frankly their engine package is the least of their worries. I don't think they're engine is particularly poor (nor particularly strong), just that their chassis is so inefficient that they're constantly forced to run more wing than others, if we were to directly compare.

Honda are gonna be the most unpredictable team for 2008.

Naturally you would think they cant get it so wrong again...

Im expecting quite an improvment for this test coming, they should be running the new rear end right?

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

chet Wrote:
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> Honda are gonna be the most unpredictable team for
> 2008.
>
> Naturally you would think they cant get it so
> wrong again...



Of course they can, they are Honda.

chet Wrote:
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> Honda are gonna be the most unpredictable team for
> 2008.
>
> Naturally you would think they cant get it so
> wrong again...
>
> Im expecting quite an improvment for this test
> coming, they should be running the new rear end
> right?

They're not just gonna take a massive leap forward. If they knew what the problem was they've had addressed it over the course of the season - they never were adverse to introducing new or B-spec cars throughout the season. No, they're in deep @#$%&. They'll improve for next season, no doubt, but they're still going to be scrabbling around for nothing more than the occasional point.

Yeah I see what you mean Gav...Honda have pulled some cracking comebacks from mid seasons...2006 for example France onwards. I have to agree with you completely that if they'd discovered the problem it would have already been on it's way to being fixed.

One possibility though is that they had already discovered what it was, and just focused on the next season's car instead. They wouldn't be likely publicly admit it but there wasn't much point in developing last year's Honda from the middle of last year. Not enough to make a difference anyways.

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Its hard to say whether they tried to fix last years car because its performance was all over.

Like at France and Monza (too oposite tracks tbh) JB was well on the pace of the people in front of him, and in France could match Alonso!!
In Brazil, he was nowhere all weekend, but come race day did anyone get a glimpse of his laptimes ??
he was lapping at about the same pace as the BMWs and Rosberg lol.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL