Unification

Posted by DaveEllis 
Unification
Date: January 24, 2008 05:25AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Free cars. Free engines. Long Beach, Toronto, Edmonton, Mexico City and Australia added to the Indy Racing League’s schedule. A unified open-wheel series for 2008.

SPEEDtv.com has learned that’s what Tony George proposed to Champ Car’s ownership group several weeks ago during meetings here in Indianapolis.

According to a well-placed source inside the open-wheel community, George presented his plan to Gerald Forsythe, the primary co-owner of Champ Car with Kevin Kalkhoven, along with minority owners, Dan Pettit and Paul Gentilozzi.

George, who was unavailable for comment on Wednesday, reportedly offered to supply Dallara chassis and Honda engine leases to any and all Champ Car teams willing to commit to the entire ’08 campaign. It was also thought he was willing to move the Motegi, Japan race in mid-April back to the fall to accommodate the annual Long Beach Grand Prix.

When asked to confirm or deny this offer was made, IMS executive vice president of communications Fred Nation replied:

“Tony (George) has had continuing dialogue over the years with the owners of Champ Car, but for reasons of confidentiality we don’t comment on the substance of those discussions.”

Forsythe and Pettit did not respond to emails but longtime Champ Car lynchpin Carl Haas admitted he’d had discussions with the IRL founder to switch series.

“It hasn’t happened yet but we’ve certainly considered going,” said Haas, who along with Paul Newman and Mike Lanigan own Champ Car’s most visible and successful operation. “It may not happen this year, but it’s highly probable we’ll do it in 2009 because there needs to be one series.”

During the 13-year war between the two groups, there have been many meetings and attempts to unify, some brokered car owners and manufacturers or even by a legend like Mario Andretti. But, with both series facing meager car counts this season, George’s gesture would seem to be the most magnanimous, if not practical way to try and strengthen a discipline of motorsports that’s been losing fans, viewers and sponsors at an alarming rate.

“We’ve got to find a way to make a deal with Tony George,” said Jimmy Vasser, the 1996 CART champion who also co-owns PKV Racing with Kalkhoven.

Along with Vasser, some of Champ Car’s little guys – Derrick Walker, Keith Wiggins and Eric Bachelart – say they were unaware of any blanket offer from George.

“I was never consulted on anything that had to do with the Speedway but anything we can do to get this thing together is a no-brainer,” said Walker, who is trying to find funding to run a second car for Team Australia. “We’re all strapped for cash on both sides, and if there’s a package that can help you keep going, you’ve got to do it.”

Walker had talked earlier to the IRL with regard to its new $1.2 million incentive program, but said it wasn’t enough to jump. But adding a free chassis and engine? “That would get it close and I’d certainly have to think about it,” he replied.

Wiggins, whose HVM team was rescued from financial quicksand by Minardi’s Paul Stoddart in 2007, said he didn’t think anybody could not be impressed by George’s offer.

“Both series still depend on support from the owners because nobody has any sponsorship to speak of, and that’s why I’m back looking for drivers with funding,” said Wiggins, whose team won twice last year with rookie Robert Doornbos. “I know Paul (Stoddart) feels like the two should unite and he’s concerned about the whole thing.”

Bachelart would usually welcome a helping hand but his recent partnership with Opes Prime Group has him sitting pretty for a change.

“This is the best situation we’ve ever been in as a team,” said the Conquest Racing owner. “I just ordered a new car, I have a new partner and we have a good package in Champ Car.

“The problem I see is that the IRL and Tony would want control and that’s tough for the Champ Car guys.”

That could be why Forsythe supposedly rejected George’s offer on his second visit to Indy before Christmas – control and money.

“I think Kevin and Gerry want an equity position in the deal,” said Vasser. “Maybe that’s the hangup.”

Counting television, payroll, Cosworth, propping up teams and promoting races, Kalkhoven and Forsythe have spent an enormous sum of money since claiming CART in bankruptcy court in 2004.

It’s believed they want George to pay them as much as $100 million, in addition to providing free equipment and paying to sanction those five races. Also, one or both requested a seat on the IRL board.

Kalkhoven and Forsythe met Bachelart on Tuesday in Indianapolis and convinced him everything will be fine in 2008.

“Champ Car has a bit of a crisis, no doubt, but Kevin and Gerry are still motivated and I have faith in them,” said Bachelart.

“It’s too late to do anything for 2008 but Tony’s plan is a good idea for 2009.”

Source: SpeedTV

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Re: Unification
Date: January 24, 2008 05:27AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
CCWS needs to wake up and realise that there series will be dead within a year if they don't give up power. Tony George has built a series from nothing, whilst they have killed there series, and might do it for the second time.

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Re: Unification
Date: January 24, 2008 05:56AM
Posted by: gary42
Let's hope this happens - CCWS is going to die and take the teams with it unless they agree. However, Bachelart may be right that '08 is too early, although '09 may be too late unfortunately

Re: Unification
Date: January 24, 2008 06:26AM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
Im a bit tired and cant really read it all, can someone tell in short whats it is about?

Re: Unification
Date: January 24, 2008 06:58AM
Posted by: NeilPearson
Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> Im a bit tired and cant really read it all, can
> someone tell in short whats it is about?

you are stupid. hows that?


anyway i decided on a list of combined tracks they need to run


Homestead
Long Beach
Motegi
Kansas
Indianapolis
Milwaukee
Texas
Laguna Seca
Richmond
Watkins Glen
Cleveland
Mid-Ohio
Toronto
Portland
Belle Isle
Road America
Australia
Chicagoland

Re: Unification
Date: January 24, 2008 08:38AM
Posted by: dkpioe
lol, 'you are stupid', great comment hahah :D
its not too much to read afterall.
Re: Unification
Date: January 28, 2008 01:18PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
The window of opportunity has closed for Champ Car World Series teams to receive Tony George's financial assistance to join the Indy Racing League for 2008, George said Sunday.

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Re: Unification
Date: January 28, 2008 09:56PM
Posted by: Red Sam
Its a real shame. I dont want to see George "win" so to speak, but it seems likely that he will pick off teams one by one until only the IRL remains... if a deal could be done, now might have been the time



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Re: Unification
Date: January 28, 2008 10:03PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
And once again, it seems the reason that the offer was not taken is that the teams and co-owner Kevin K were not informed of it. At the meeting it was Dan Pettit and Gerry Forsythe, who are strongly opposed to unification. So when the teams were informed of this offer far too late, they were rightly miffed. I don't see CCWS lasting very long now that the owners are working firmly against each other.

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Re: Unification
Date: January 29, 2008 03:26AM
Posted by: NeilPearson
Thats just pathetic

Re: Unification
Date: January 29, 2008 11:11AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Carl Haas has announced that Newman Haas Lanigan will move to IRL in 2009, whether the series merge or not. That will be the death of CCWS if the series do not merge.

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Re: Unification
Date: January 29, 2008 11:15AM
Posted by: gary42
That's probably why Gerry held back - when NH leave Forsythe will be the biggest team, and would have a chance at another few titles. He doesn't seem to realise that CCWS won't be around in '09 at this rate...

Re: Unification
Date: January 29, 2008 04:45PM
Posted by: NeilPearson
gary42 Wrote:
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> That's probably why Gerry held back - when NH
> leave Forsythe will be the biggest team, and would
> have a chance at another few titles. He doesn't
> seem to realise that CCWS won't be around in '09
> at this rate...

Doubtful, Gerry doesn't have any money to run a strong team now days. Tracy, the best driver ever, wasn't able to even mount attacks at newman/hass nor other teams which got stronger . others kept beating him.

Re: Unification
Date: January 30, 2008 11:04PM
Posted by: Slash
Man, i remember the good old 1998 days, who tought the series would go trough this difficult times after being probably the most exciting thing to watch... it's such a shame, i hope they can find a way to come back like the old days, but it seems unlikely!
Re: Unification
Date: January 31, 2008 03:51AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Kevin Kalkhovens private jet landed at Indianapolis yesterday, and hasn't left yet.

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Re: Unification
Date: February 08, 2008 01:16PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
SPEED has learned that Kevin Kalkhoven and Gerald Forsythe, the co-owners of Champ Car, have reached an agreement with IRL founder Tony George to race together this season.

[auto-racing.speedtv.com]

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Re: Unification
Date: February 08, 2008 08:13PM
Posted by: tripleM
"I sent Tony a text (message) last night to find out what is going on"

[www.indystar.com]


Re: Unification
Date: February 08, 2008 09:27PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
February 8, 2008

Statement from Kevin Kalkhoven & Jerry Forsythe, Champ Car co-owners:

Unfortunately, leaks and media reports about a possible unification of
Champ Car and the Indy Racing League (IRL) have significantly hampered
discussions.
Over the past three years, we have fielded and offered
several proposals regarding unification of the two premier U.S.-based
open-wheel racing series, but we have been unable to reach an acceptable
solution. Discussions currently are at a standstill, and we therefore
are proceeding with plans to continue as Champ Car.


Man, Robin Miller really dropped the ball on this one.

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Re: Unification
Date: February 09, 2008 04:13AM
Posted by: NeilPearson
Re: Unification
Date: February 10, 2008 04:18PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Derek Walker has confirmed that he recently took delivery of IRL Dallara chassis.

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