GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10

Posted by PTRACER 
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: January 20, 2019 01:57PM
Posted by: elio2012
Support for Window 7 ends in Jan 2020. I might need to get good at adapting all my GP3 files and editors for Win 10 over the next year. Not looking forward to that .... :-(
I suspect that logo generator will not work. Problems for GP3 Edit too perhaps, never mind getting the game itself to run properly.

Elio
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: February 10, 2019 01:37PM
Posted by: abdelkader
I have just reinstalled GP3 after a 4-year hiatus. I'm currently using Windows 10.
Car Editor works fine.
GP3 Edit works fine (I'm using a Windows 7 friendly version, though).
GPxPatch works fine.
JamEditor works fine.
GP3 Cockpit Editor works fine.

So it's not that bad after all. Most of the editors work flawlessly.



Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: February 10, 2019 09:44PM
Posted by: elio2012
Well that is encouraging! How about logo editor and Art Tool?
Thanks for the info.

Elio
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: February 10, 2019 09:54PM
Posted by: abdelkader
No idea about Art Tool but I've just opened Teamlogo Editor and it opened fine :)



Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: February 11, 2019 04:18PM
Posted by: ooleeeo
What about FPS in game?

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Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: February 12, 2019 05:33PM
Posted by: abdelkader
I play GP3 directly via Windows 10 and FPS in HW mode is terrible. However, FPS in SW mode is just as it always has been - totally playable.



Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: February 12, 2019 05:59PM
Posted by: ooleeeo
That's an interesting observation. Will try running it in SW mode then.

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I haven't played GP3 since I got a new computer (a very budget one) because it never worked correctly under Windows 10 with my old one. Today I decided to give GP3 2000 a chance and it was bad at first, it would only work in Software mode and the menus got that weird color bug.

My computer has integrated graphics (ryzen 3 2200g) so I didn't expect this guide to work but for my surprise after trying it things are very promising. I still need to test custom tracks but on original tracks, I get 80%/90% PO on hardware mode with 1024x768 resolution at 25.6fps on normal racing conditions. During race starts it goes up to 140%/180% depending on the track, and during practice it goes really low. All very good compared to the 400% or more I got with the old system. It also got rid of the menu color bug. I'm gonna try GP3 later this week and hopefully, it will go as well.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: April 11, 2019 02:21PM
Posted by: pippozzo
Some useful guidance on DgVooDoo and DxWnd.

I recently tried both with GP3, and there are many differences, in terms of
performance and how it works.
DgVooDoo emulates a videocard "virtual" with the settings you are passing
by the config program. That means all job is wrapped above your phisical
GPU and CPU and it does really bad performance (starting race over 200%-300%)
cause it uses software ways to creates all environment and putting DirectX calls in it.
The most its advantage seems the correct beheaviour emulated in base of which
card model is selected.
DxWnd has got a very rich options set (for correct skys colour in GP3,
use the option "Set Texture Pixel Format" - if needed ).
It seems use the DirectX APIs directly on your phisical GPU.
When you check the GPU name, in the game, it appears effectively as its name.
That gives the incredible advantage in performance way
(start race at 60%-80%, 20-60% average). Cause it's like a passthrough your
operative system installed DirectX and uses the its DirectX (emulating old versions,
GP3 need Dx 7) .
However, if your GPU has native render defects in GP3 (for example, some Intel Graphics
doesn't not render properly tyres and black polygons) ,
this defects will show.
So, it means to try DxWnd, but it doesn't guarantee it works fine with your GPU.
Hey pippozzo, is there any way to use GP3 with DxWnd while starting it with GPxPatch?

I tried it without GPxPatch and it indeed runs a bit faster and a lot smoother than with dgVooDoo, but I wasn't able to run it with GPxPatch.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: April 18, 2019 11:00PM
Posted by: pippozzo
HAVE A LOOK HERE.
THESE SHOTS ARE THE SETUP OF DXWND I HAVE GOT WITH MY GP3++ .
The game (mod98, as GP3 default) is started by GpxPatch and you can see the CPU Occ I shotted, in several images,
At monaco, without mirror details, at wet silverstone with mirror detailed.
Mind, my GP3++ has a bit rcr larger distance, so in a standard GP3 installation you can also have much better performance.


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Thanks! It worked very well. I think it wasn't launching because I was missing the "folder" setting.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: June 30, 2019 06:40AM
Posted by: PTRACER
Please sticky this thread.

Hi guys,
as someone knows , GP3Video was the program to make GP3 1.13 having a long replay - up 2 hours entire race - like GP3 2000 season or GP4 (the normal GP3 has got just last 20 seconds replay).
So, GP3Video creates a copy of GP3.exe file alled GP3V.exe , and launching GPxPatch on this executable you have the long replay.
BUT Someone could find a big problem when there is a driver selected (there is a player, not director only) in wheather/track changeble conditions. This was generated by wrong calculations of physics and grip conditions changes while race, causing a random behavior of your car (just your car) during the replay, showing completely different realty - often you will crash in some wall in the replay.

I found why and how can you solve it.
The problem seems happening just in systems 64 bit, since Windows Vista forward (win 7, win 8, win 10 ... ) and windows xp with service pack 3.
To solve it, just mind to put GP3V.exe file with compatibility mode in "WINDOWS XP SERVICE PACK 2" .
Since every windows OS since 2006 had the version 64 bit (that s why xp service pack 3 is included), compatibility mode in a system 64 bit will work with 64 bit version of those retro` library.
But GP3Video was a really ancien program (16bit, cause derivated by GP2Video too, in fact launched by DosBox), and it make GP3.exe working good with 32 bit version of library but not good for 64 bit version (memory addresses managed differently ).
Finally.
Just put GP3V.exe in compatibility mode Wxp SERVICE PACK 2 .
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 28, 2019 07:44AM
Posted by: ooleeeo
I have a 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050. How much FPS can I expect to get using dgvoodoo?

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Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 28, 2019 09:28PM
Posted by: pippozzo
With NVida you have I really suggest to use DxWnd , cosy I have NVida card gt 610 and acheive 25 fps in 1024 resolution for almost all part of gaming.
IndgVoodoo will ave to use the your CPU through, actually, instead the graphic card, and that performance will be very bad especially with many cars at start, considering in SGVoodoo mode my GP3++ will have (by default export mod to the game) 640 resolution. Try DnXwnd, if you experience any problem so retry with dgvoodoo. (in I3 4th gen 4Gb Ram it has 15-16 fps in middle grid start, 20 fps over the race, average).
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: October 09, 2019 08:12AM
Posted by: ooleeeo
Can someone please help with this? With dgvoodoo gp3 is working fine enough..but if I use debug mode the game doesn't start and error message comes up every time. Here is the log:

Starting log
GPxPatch version: 4.52
GPx version detected: decrypted GP3 v1.13
Date/time: 9-10-2019 11:41
Verbosity level is 0
OS version info: Windows 10 build 17134
Total physical memory: 8039 MB (free: 3544 MB)
Debugging gp3.exe
Waiting for debug events...
Injecting DLL loading code...
Injection succesful
First chance exception
Exception address: 0x00505cc5
Exception code: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Process tried to read from virtual address 0x00f81000
Unhandled exception
Exception address: 0x00505cc5
Exception code: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Process tried to read from virtual address 0x00f81000
Stack trace:
00505CC5: Games\Grand Prix 3\Modded\GPxPatch.exe! <no symbol>
00505A01: Games\Grand Prix 3\Modded\GPxPatch.exe! <no symbol>
73143E80: windows\system32\dwmapi.dll! DllGetClassObject + 3616 bytes
B60F5011: <no module><no symbol>
02E0C106: <no module><no symbol>
C4557005: <no module><no symbol>
58300300: <no module><no symbol>
804606EB: <no module><no symbol>
FA73143E: <no module><no symbol>
143E80C3: <no module><no symbol>
3E802F73: <no module><no symbol>
802A7408: <no module><no symbol>
2574093E: <no module><no symbol>
74033E80: <no module><no symbol>
053E801B: <no module><no symbol>
0F501174: <no module><no symbol>
E0C106B6: <no module><no symbol>
55700502: <no module><no symbol>
300300C4: <no module><no symbol>
8324EB58: <no module><no symbol>
06EB02C6: <no module><no symbol>
EB03C683: <no module><no symbol>
3E804601: <no module><no symbol>
80FA7314: <no module><no symbol>
F574083E: <no module><no symbol>
74093E80: <no module><no symbol>
033E80F0: <no module><no symbol>
3E80E674: <no module><no symbol>
C3DC7405: <no module><no symbol>
55565251: <no module><no symbol>
Registers:
EAX=000009E8 ECX=00000077 ESI=00F81000
EBX=00000000 EDX=00000000 EDI=00C4961A
CS:EIP=0023:00505CC5
SS:ESP=002B:0019FA98 EBP=774B5A40
DS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Flags=00010202
Stack dump:
0019fa98: 00505a01 00c49b58 00c49b6b 774b5a40 '.ZP.X...k...@ZKw'
0019faa8: 0019fabc 00000000 00000000 c05234bb '.............4R.'
0019fab8: 00000001 00505599 774b5a40 00523473 '.....UP.@ZKws4R.'
0019fac8: 00f43f0f 0051e5a9 50011766 002dc000 '.?....Q.f..P..-.'
0019fad8: 0000000a 0051e440 00400000 00f43f0f '....@.Q...@..?..'
0019fae8: 0000000a 00000000 0019ff80 002dc000 '..............-.'
0019faf8: 00000000 0019fbec 00000002 00f40000 '................'
0019fb08: 00000001 00000000 00000000 0019f7f8 '................'
0019fb18: 00000000 0019fa18 00000000 00000000 '................'
0019fb28: 00f40000 77d62761 00496dd9 00000001 '....a'.w.mI.....'
0019fb38: 00000000 00440020 02ae0000 00000000 '.... .D.........'
0019fb48: 4000006a 00000000 00690054 00000000 'j..@....T.i.....'
0019fb58: 00000000 c0100080 40000062 00000000 '........b..@....'
0019fb68: 00000000 00000003 00190000 00000000 '................'
0019fb78: f71d742f 00000000 40000062 00000000 '/t......b..@....'
0019fb88: 0019ff70 77cf2bf0 f71d742f ffff0000 'p....+.w/t......'
0019fb98: 0019fbe0 77cc5ec9 00000028 00000030 '.....^.w(...0...'
0019fba8: 00000000 0019fbc8 00000014 00f40000 '................'
0019fbb8: 00d21840 00000030 0019ff70 77cf2bf0 '@...0...p....+.w'
0019fbc8: f71d744f fffffffe 0019fc20 77cc3812 'Ot...... ....8.w'
0019fbd8: 00f4b8b8 77cc37e3 00000200 00000014 '.....7.w........'
0019fbe8: 00000220 00000013 0000003f 0019fc9c ' .......?.......'
0019fbf8: 0019fc0c 00000200 00f4b8e8 00f4b8c0 '................'
0019fc08: 00f44358 00000000 00c6a91b 0019fc64 'XC..........d...'
0019fc18: 77980135 00f4b8e8 0019fc64 7798014c '5..w....d...L..w'
0019fc28: 00f40000 00000000 00f4b8c0 00000220 '............ ...'
0019fc38: 774b6850 77957d52 00390034 00000031 'PhKwR}.w4.9.1...'
0019fc48: 00f4b8c0 0000003f 00f4b8c0 00000000 '....?...........'
0019fc58: 00f44358 00000000 c04bc8df 0019fca0 'XC........K.....'
0019fc68: 00529a81 00000000 00000220 00d21898 '..R..... .......'
0019fc78: ffffffff 0000000a 00000119 00000077 '............w...'
0019fc88: 0019fc9c 0000000a 0019fc9c 00526f00 '.............oR.'
0019fc98: 02ae1398 0019fcdc 00529960 0000000b '........`.R.....'
0019fca8: 0052796d 00523473 0052f00c 00cde1f0 'myR.s4R...R.....'
0019fcb8: 00000031 00000000 0000000b 00000000 '1...............'
0019fcc8: 00000009 00000077 00000000 00000119 '....w...........'
0019fcd8: 00000000 0019fdcc 00522f64 5d9d7a04 '........d/R..z.]'
0019fce8: 0000000a 00000009 0000000b 00000029 '............)...'
0019fcf8: 00000010 00000000 fffffeb6 006e0049 '............I.n.'
0019fd08: 00690064 00200061 00740053 006e0061 'd.i.a. .S.t.a.n.'
0019fd18: 00610064 00640072 00540020 006d0069 'd.a.r.d. .T.i.m.'
0019fd28: 00000065 00000000 00000000 00000000 'e...............'
0019fd38: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
0019fd48: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
0019fd58: 006e0049 00690064 00200061 00610044 'I.n.d.i.a. .D.a.'
0019fd68: 006c0079 00670069 00740068 00540020 'y.l.i.g.h.t. .T.'
0019fd78: 006d0069 00000065 00000000 00000000 'i.m.e...........'
0019fd88: 00000000 00000000 00000000 77cdbd69 '............i..w'
0019fd98: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
0019fda8: ffffffc4 80d37cf7 00090003 0019ff80 '.....|..........'
0019fdb8: 005248c5 00000000 00523473 0052f00c '.HR.....s4R...R.'
0019fdc8: 00000000 02ae0000 00000000 02ae0000 '................'
0019fdd8: 00000080 02ae0ae0 77d51c59 02ae0b68 '........Y..wh...'
0019fde8: 77c873a8 00000008 02ae0ae8 02ae0000 '.s.w............'
0019fdf8: 02ae0ae8 02ae0ae8 02ae0000 50000061 '............a..P'
0019fe08: 02ae0000 0019fe64 0019fe64 77d639da '....d...d....9.w'
0019fe18: 77cfe5aa 77d639c3 80d37f0b 00523473 '...w.9.w....s4R.'
0019fe28: 02ae0000 02ae0ae8 50000061 02ae0000 '........a..P....'
0019fe38: 50000061 0157fab0 00000080 0119fe18 'a..P..W.........'
0019fe48: 80d37f0b 0019fe20 77cf2bf0 0019febc '.... ....+.w....'
0019fe58: 77cf2bf0 f71284b7 fffffffe 77d639c3 '.+.w.........9.w'
0019fe68: 77d003bc 02ae0ae8 00523473 0052f014 '...w....s4R...R.'
0019fe78: 002dc000 0000000d 0019fecc 00523f7a '..-.........z?R.'
0019fe88: 02ae0000 00000000 02ae0ae8 00523473 '............s4R.'
0019fe98: 0052f014 002dc000 28a14a40 77cdbd69 '..R...-.@J.(i..w'
0019fea8: 00523473 0051fc40 002dc000 0019fec4 's4R.@.Q...-.....'
0019feb8: 0019fec8 0019fec8 00526f00 00d21700 '.........oR.....'
0019fec8: 0019ff80 00523b67 7795a201 00521856 '....g;R....wV.R.'
0019fed8: 0052f014 00521863 00000000 002dc000 '..R.c.R.......-.'
0019fee8: 0051fc40 00523b7c c04bca4f 0019ff80 '@.Q.|;R.O.K.....'
0019fef8: 00523553 00400000 00000000 00f43f0f 'S5R...@......?..'
0019ff08: 0000000a 00523473 00523473 002dc000 '....s4R.s4R...-.'
0019ff18: c0000005 00f43f0f 00000000 00000044 '.....?......D...'
0019ff28: 00f5ae08 00f5ae28 00f5ae50 00000000 '....(...P.......'
0019ff38: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
0019ff48: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
0019ff58: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff '................'
0019ff68: 0019ff0c 0019f45c 0019ffcc 00526f0c '....\........oR.'
0019ff78: 0052c810 00000000 0019ff94 774b8494 '..R...........Kw'
0019ff88: 002dc000 774b8470 dffd0f6e 0019ffdc '..-.p.Kwn.......'
0019ff98: 77ce41c8 002dc000 80d37eb3 00000000 '.A.w..-..~......'
0019ffa8: 00000000 002dc000 c0000005 00000000 '......-.........'
0019ffb8: 0019f42c 779e5600 80d37eb3 0019ffa0 ',....V.w.~......'
0019ffc8: 0019f42c 0019ffe4 77cf2bf0 f71d7a1f ',........+.w.z..'
0019ffd8: 00000000 0019ffec 77ce4198 ffffffff '.........A.w....'
0019ffe8: 77cff32d 00000000 00000000 00523473 '-..w........s4R.'
0019fff8: 002dc000 00000000 78746341 00000020 '..-.....Actx ...'
001a0008: 00000001 00003334 000000dc 00000000 '....43..........'
001a0018: 00000020 00000000 00000014 00000001 ' ...............'
001a0028: 00000007 00000034 0000017c 00000001 '....4...|.......'
001a0038: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
001a0048: 00000000 00000002 1a26ef4e 00000298 '........N.&.....'
001a0058: 00000044 000002e0 00000260 00000000 'D.......`.......'
001a0068: f33271ba 00000540 0000004a 0000058c '.q2.@...J.......'
001a0078: 00000348 00000000 2d59495b 000008d4 'H.......[IY-....'
001a0088: 00000032 00000908 00000300 00000000 '2...............'
001a0098: 32ceeacd 00000c08 00000042 00000c4c '...2....B...L...'
001a00a8: 00000336 00000000 38505fc8 00000f84 '6........_P8....'
001a00b8: 0000005e 00000fe4 00000368 00000000 '^.......h.......'
001a00c8: b1280544 0000134c 00000056 000013a4 'D.(.L...V.......'
001a00d8: 00000398 00000010 00000009 000000ec '................'
001a00e8: 00000002 00000001 0000017c 000015f8 '........|.......'
001a00f8: 00000001 00000002 00001774 000007a0 '........t.......'
001a0108: 00000001 00000003 00001f14 00000e8c '................'
001a0118: 00000001 00000004 00002da0 00000314 '.........-......'
001a0128: 00000002 00000005 000030b4 00000098 '.........0......'
001a0138: 00000002 00000006 0000314c 000000cc '........L1......'
001a0148: 00000002 00000007 00003218 000000f0 '.........2......'
001a0158: 00000001 00000009 00003308 00000028 '.........3..(...'
001a0168: 00000002 0000000b 00003330 00000004 '........03......'
001a0178: 00000001 64487353 0000002c 00000001 '....SsHd,.......'
001a0188: 00000001 00000001 00000006 0000008c '................'
001a0198: 00000001 000015c0 0000002c 0000005e '........,...^...'
001a01a8: 0000005e 00000000 00000000 00000000 '^...............'
001a01b8: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 '................'
001a01c8: 00000000 00000000 00000002 00000024 '............$...'
001a01d8: 00000038 00000000 003a0043 0077005c '8.......C.:.\.w.'
001a01e8: 006e0069 006f0064 00730077 0057005c 'i.n.d.o.w.s.\.W.'
001a01f8: 006e0069 00780053 005c0073 00000000 'i.n.S.x.s.\.....'
001a0208: 1a26ef4e 0000011c 00000044 00000164 'N.&.....D...d...'
001a0218: 00000260 00000001 f33271ba 000003c4 '`........q2.....'
001a0228: 0000004a 00000410 00000348 00000002 'J.......H.......'
001a0238: 2d59495b 00000758 00000032 0000078c '[IY-X...2.......'
001a0248: 00000300 00000003 32ceeacd 00000a8c '...........2....'
001a0258: 00000042 00000ad0 00000336 00000004 'B.......6.......'
001a0268: 38505fc8 00000e08 0000005e 00000e68 '._P8....^...h...'
001a0278: 00000368 00000005 b1280544 000011d0 'h.......D.(.....'
001a0288: 00000056 00001228 00000398 00000006 'V...(...........'

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Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: October 10, 2019 01:42PM
Posted by: pippozzo
is it appearing when chose some track in particular or some carshape particularly? . Let me know if happen for other carshapes and other tracks.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: October 11, 2019 07:33PM
Posted by: ooleeeo
Well, I was trying the 2019 melbourne circuit as available in the 2019 thread and the dat file is more than 137 kb, so I set track length to 10 km in gpxpatch and tried to run it without using debug mode, the game crashed right after selecting the track.

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Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: October 14, 2019 08:12PM
Posted by: pippozzo
so, I think it's about that. many tracks don't work when it started without debug mode. Q. Why you need remove the check on debug mode flag?
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