GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10

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Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 03, 2018 12:54AM
Posted by: AFaustini
My actual PC doesn't have a cd/dvd driver. GP3 only runs if i emulate a driver. There is a way to bypass it?
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 03, 2018 09:24AM
Posted by: SuperCim
Stefano ha scritto:
[www.ilmiotempolibero.it]
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 03, 2018 03:48PM
Posted by: ThePanzafahra
AFaustini schrieb:
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> My actual PC doesn't have a cd/dvd driver. GP3
> only runs if i emulate a driver. There is a way to
> bypass it?


If it would help, I can upload a copy of my CD content so you can install the game from a seperate folder. (That's how I managed to install the game in the first place since my CD is kind of edgy)
But about the CD drive, you'll need the 1.13 patch and NoCD exe. It's all available here somewhere on the forum
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 07, 2018 05:19PM
Posted by: AFaustini
ThePanzafahra Wrote:
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> AFaustini schrieb:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My actual PC doesn't have a cd/dvd driver. GP3
> > only runs if i emulate a driver. There is a way
> to
> > bypass it?
>
>
> If it would help, I can upload a copy of my CD
> content so you can install the game from a
> seperate folder. (That's how I managed to install
> the game in the first place since my CD is kind of
> edgy)
> But about the CD drive, you'll need the 1.13 patch
> and NoCD exe. It's all available here somewhere on
> the forum


I can install and run gp3 with a cd drive. But, even with noCD, the game asks for a optical drive.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 07, 2018 09:09PM
Posted by: SuperCim
I sent you the link on "Il mio tempo libero" it was enough for you to translate it:

About the lack of a cd player there are some tricks that can be adopted, in windows 10 the virtual disk function is present.
For example, if you right-click on any .iso image file, the first item that will appear is "Mount", if you click will appear in "This PC" along with the hard disk, this condition is sufficient to start the game .
With older operating systems, starting with windows 7 and going backwards, this function is not there so programs like alcohol 52 or daemon tools were installed.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 11, 2018 10:50PM
Posted by: ThePanzafahra
Is there anyone who has a solution for the problem of huge CPU load in HW mode for GP3?
I'm running my vanilla install in Software mode (because nostalgia and it runs smooth) but I have GP3++ as well, which HAS to run in HW mode because of GPxPatch. I can't run it properly though, no matter what I try. Lower resolution, less details, etc. but in HW mode I'm always having 150+% CPU load on my laptop when there's more than one car on the track..
I really don't know what's wrong with that but I've tried basically everything I could. I don't know what else to do.
Anyone got an idea?
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 12, 2018 09:34AM
Posted by: SuperCim
Maybe you're using Belini circuits or other high-resolution circuits.
Have you tried the circuits I used in my Grand Prix 3 2018 work?
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 12, 2018 01:12PM
Posted by: pippozzo
there are some suggests in GP3++ manual,
"Appendice" part, but it is in italian (I m going to work to an english version), try to easy translation about.

[drive.google.com]

anyway, try to reduce RCR distances in GpxPatch (GP3 default should be 3840),
but due several car shapes I used in GP3++, I improved that values.
The recuction effect will be very bad graphic of other cars you see form your cockpit,
but it will quite improve CPU occupancy.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 12, 2018 06:16PM
Posted by: ThePanzafahra
pippozzo schrieb:
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> there are some suggests in GP3++ manual,
> "Appendice" part, but it is in italian (I m going
> to work to an english version), try to easy
> translation about.
>
> [drive.google.com]
> -53VH6pEnyS4Kg-/view
>
> anyway, try to reduce RCR distances in GpxPatch
> (GP3 default should be 3840),
> but due several car shapes I used in GP3++, I
> improved that values.
> The recuction effect will be very bad graphic of
> other cars you see form your cockpit,
> but it will quite improve CPU occupancy.


Do you have any idea what actually makes the game freeze in SW mode?
I mean, when I start GP3++, I check the carsets for SW graphics, etc.
I even re-set the tracks set file to the standard ones so I wouldn't try to load a track that only has HW jams.
But it keeps freezing at 4/5 lights loaded.. which I don't know why it happens.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 12, 2018 09:19PM
Posted by: pippozzo
no. GP3++ don't have any carstets in SW mode. It's completely developed on HW mode, also tracks, graphics ecc... And I know GpxPatch has not SW mode graphic.
The game maybe freeze because the circuits with the standard name are actually not original circuits 98 from the CD , but from TPack98 set, that aims to improve the original graphics (as safety nets on fences etc.).
Anyway , GP3++ was thought just in HW mode, it will not work properly in SW.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 14, 2018 09:44AM
Posted by: ThePanzafahra
RIP me then.
Tried almost everything to get the game to run smoothly in HW mode, still with ~5 cars or more the PO goes to 150+%
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 15, 2018 12:20AM
Posted by: rodrogo
Chance of Rain 35%. I do not know why, but with 0% rain the game gets PO absurd. Another point is that it does not save the track when you exit the game.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 15, 2018 11:20AM
Posted by: pippozzo
yes. I confirm , with 0% rain it tries to load the sky hires bitmap with over height for CPU. Just put chance rain > 10% to avoid.
But I didn't catch, what mean "it does not save the track when you exit the game" ?
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 28, 2018 08:19PM
Posted by: Rod_vs
I gave up! I didn't get to make game runs! I'll bought a simple PC, put Windows 7 and run game, it's the way! :(


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Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 28, 2018 08:55PM
Posted by: SuperCim
If you are looking for a Pentium IV, they give it for free, so install Windows XP, which is better.
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 30, 2018 08:46AM
Posted by: GP2tifoso28
I have the same problem with hardware mode. On software mode PO never above 30%, hardware mode its on 200%. Could not find a way to fix it, so I've settled on playing the game in software mode. I've never modded GP3 before, is there any mods that support software mode or no?
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 30, 2018 10:48AM
Posted by: SuperCim
But have you tried my job? I used old circuits that do not slow down the computer.

[www.grandprixgames.org]
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: September 30, 2018 06:04PM
Posted by: pippozzo
theoretically....
if you mod just with carset and GP3 Editor (without circuit mod) , it's ever possible obtainsoftware graphics by hardware graphics, so you can run in software mode.
For that, it necessary just click on "Generate software" button in GP3 Editor for every graphic element , then re save the carset and export to game. I think also gp3 car editor is indipendent of it.
But mind, if other tracks use hardware jam only, the track could start, but no graphics visible . (it seems f1gp tracks).
So, software gp3 mod are certanly possible only with GP3 Editor export, but anyway , without new tracks, without Gpx patch (run directly gp3.exe)...
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: October 02, 2018 08:28AM
Posted by: GP2tifoso28
pippozzo Wrote:
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> theoretically....
> if you mod just with carset and GP3 Editor
> (without circuit mod) , it's ever possible
> obtainsoftware graphics by hardware graphics, so
> you can run in software mode.
> For that, it necessary just click on "Generate
> software" button in GP3 Editor for every graphic
> element , then re save the carset and export to
> game. I think also gp3 car editor is indipendent
> of it.
> But mind, if other tracks use hardware jam only,
> the track could start, but no graphics visible .
> (it seems f1gp tracks).
> So, software gp3 mod are certanly possible only
> with GP3 Editor export, but anyway , without new
> tracks, without Gpx patch (run directly
> gp3.exe)...

Wow, thanks mate. That's good news, I was worried that none of the mods were going to work in software mode. I'm not using gpxpatch on gp3 anyway because the graphical elements of it do not work in software mode so I don't really see much point in using it outside of creating log files

Her SuperCim no I have not tried to mod anything on gp3 yet, still learning and doing research because it appears to he different to gp2 which I'm more familiar with. So your tracks are the older software mode versions? I'll give them a try, thanks mate
Re: GUIDE: How to run Grand Prix 3 on Windows 10
Date: October 02, 2018 03:44PM
Posted by: SuperCim
Warning:
the original circuits also have the software graphics,
but of the others, not all of them have software scenarios, but only hardware.
However, the circuits that I used, do not slow down the computer, if the graphics card is compatible, you can play in hardware.
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