Computer (almost) totally damaged; I need help/advice
Posted by Lex
this is my old psu, [www.amazon.com]
it's a very very good psu, and would choose it over the ones you've listed, and only $9 more, with a bit more power too.
it's a very very good psu, and would choose it over the ones you've listed, and only $9 more, with a bit more power too.
Paco Wrote:
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> I have an 8600gt, but I plan on changing that once
> I've got a new PSU capable of coping with a more
> power demanding card. However, I won't be getting
> some kick-ass card, a 4870 would be more than
> enough or me.
Ok but try to buy the Fuente 630w Reales Modular Saikano -Ps-630w. Gtia. 3 Años
for 599 pesos.
Its cheaper and its better than the coolermaster 500w.
When you upgrade to the 4870 i recommend that you put some extra fans
inside the PC case, its because of the heat that this vga card produces.
Cheers
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> I have an 8600gt, but I plan on changing that once
> I've got a new PSU capable of coping with a more
> power demanding card. However, I won't be getting
> some kick-ass card, a 4870 would be more than
> enough or me.
Ok but try to buy the Fuente 630w Reales Modular Saikano -Ps-630w. Gtia. 3 Años
for 599 pesos.
Its cheaper and its better than the coolermaster 500w.
When you upgrade to the 4870 i recommend that you put some extra fans
inside the PC case, its because of the heat that this vga card produces.
Cheers
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Ok but try to buy the Fuente 630w Reales Modular
> Saikano -Ps-630w.
You'd be better off buying a Mexican with an exercise bike powering a dynamo. Big brand name in some Latin countries they may be, but the PSUs are poor value. From what I can see of that specific PSU, the rails are split into 4, so great if you have plenty of hard drives and multiple lower power cards, but not so good for having 1 high-powered graphics card. The quoted power is way over the top and looking around I can see they rarely actually deliver that quoted amount. By the looks of it they don't make their own PSUs either, so you don't actually know what you're getting. As far as I can see, none of their PSUs have 80+ certification either, which is a good indicator of how good in the long-run a PSU actually is.
630W is ridiculous for a HD 4870. It's way over the top. A 500W Seasonic is more than enough, and the price difference between decent equivalent 500W and 600W+ PSU is large.
Paco, of the ones listed I'd get the XFX at the top of the page. The wattage may be overkill, but in terms of value they are still good. If you can though, as ralv585 says, get a Corsair HX (the 520W HX would be fine) (made by Seasonic), a Seasonic itself or one of the better Enermax PSUs (the only Enermax listed on that site might be a little bit overkill
).
The only really good manufacturer on there is PC Power & Cooling (now owned by OCZ though), and of those they're the best by miles, but they never have been good value.
The OCZ PSU you mention does seem solid (which is the most important thing for a PSU), but it's getting a bit long in the tooth now, and doesn't appear to have many connectors.
Thermaltake occasionally do some good PSUs, but they're very hit and miss, so it's impossible to recommend them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 11:38AM by gav.
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> Ok but try to buy the Fuente 630w Reales Modular
> Saikano -Ps-630w.
You'd be better off buying a Mexican with an exercise bike powering a dynamo. Big brand name in some Latin countries they may be, but the PSUs are poor value. From what I can see of that specific PSU, the rails are split into 4, so great if you have plenty of hard drives and multiple lower power cards, but not so good for having 1 high-powered graphics card. The quoted power is way over the top and looking around I can see they rarely actually deliver that quoted amount. By the looks of it they don't make their own PSUs either, so you don't actually know what you're getting. As far as I can see, none of their PSUs have 80+ certification either, which is a good indicator of how good in the long-run a PSU actually is.
630W is ridiculous for a HD 4870. It's way over the top. A 500W Seasonic is more than enough, and the price difference between decent equivalent 500W and 600W+ PSU is large.
Paco, of the ones listed I'd get the XFX at the top of the page. The wattage may be overkill, but in terms of value they are still good. If you can though, as ralv585 says, get a Corsair HX (the 520W HX would be fine) (made by Seasonic), a Seasonic itself or one of the better Enermax PSUs (the only Enermax listed on that site might be a little bit overkill
).The only really good manufacturer on there is PC Power & Cooling (now owned by OCZ though), and of those they're the best by miles, but they never have been good value.
The OCZ PSU you mention does seem solid (which is the most important thing for a PSU), but it's getting a bit long in the tooth now, and doesn't appear to have many connectors.
Thermaltake occasionally do some good PSUs, but they're very hit and miss, so it's impossible to recommend them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 11:38AM by gav.
Gav@ He lives in my country (Argentina) so i know what to offer him or not and where to get it
witch i doubt you can because you dont live in argentina.
Many people over here with low budget buys that Saikano 630w along with 4870 and
its well tested especially when you have friends that have that configuration for over 1 year
without a problem. This PSU also can handle a 4890 if he decides to update even further.
Infact in a review recently done in a computer forum where i participate it was proven
to be better than the coolermaster 600w.
One piece of advice: Dont tell me what to advice or not advice other users especially if you
dont know what are the possibilities are in my country.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 03:48PM by jcaranti.
witch i doubt you can because you dont live in argentina
.Many people over here with low budget buys that Saikano 630w along with 4870 and
its well tested especially when you have friends that have that configuration for over 1 year
without a problem. This PSU also can handle a 4890 if he decides to update even further.
Infact in a review recently done in a computer forum where i participate it was proven
to be better than the coolermaster 600w.
One piece of advice: Dont tell me what to advice or not advice other users especially if you
dont know what are the possibilities are in my country.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 03:48PM by jcaranti.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Gav@ He lives in my country (Argentina) so i know
> what to offer him or not and where to get it
> witch i doubt you can because you dont live in
> argentina.
Ah of course, because the components available in Argentina are certainly in a different class to those same components available outside of Argentina.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Infact in a review recently done in a computer
> forum where i participate it was proven
> to be better than the coolermaster 600w.
1) Even the better CoolerMaster PSUs are very average (though some are 80+ certified), so comparing to them is a bit pointless. 2) The Saikano ones aren't any better. 3) If it's not even 80+ certified, it's crap. Fact. 4) What's this review, as I'd love to see the numbers and what tests were undertaken?
jcaranti Wrote:
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> One piece of advice: Dont tell me what to advice
> or not advice other users especially if you
> dont know what are the possibilities are in my
> country.
I've not told you what to advise, only that the advice you have given is, in my eyes, poor.
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> Gav@ He lives in my country (Argentina) so i know
> what to offer him or not and where to get it
> witch i doubt you can because you dont live in
> argentina
.Ah of course, because the components available in Argentina are certainly in a different class to those same components available outside of Argentina.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Infact in a review recently done in a computer
> forum where i participate it was proven
> to be better than the coolermaster 600w.
1) Even the better CoolerMaster PSUs are very average (though some are 80+ certified), so comparing to them is a bit pointless. 2) The Saikano ones aren't any better. 3) If it's not even 80+ certified, it's crap. Fact. 4) What's this review, as I'd love to see the numbers and what tests were undertaken?
jcaranti Wrote:
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> One piece of advice: Dont tell me what to advice
> or not advice other users especially if you
> dont know what are the possibilities are in my
> country.
I've not told you what to advise, only that the advice you have given is, in my eyes, poor.
gav Wrote:
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> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gav@ He lives in my country (Argentina) so i
> know
> > what to offer him or not and where to get it
> > witch i doubt you can because you dont live in
> > argentina.
>
> Ah of course, because the components available in
> Argentina are certainly in a different class to
> those same components available outside of
> Argentina.
I said what i said because its meant as for costs in my country
and for the products that are avaialable for reasonable price
again i doubt that you can say anything on that subject since
you dont live in Argentina like i do Paco lives in Argentina
for you information.
Do you live in Argentina?
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Infact in a review recently done in a computer
> > forum where i participate it was proven
> > to be better than the coolermaster 600w.
>
> gav Wrote:
> -----------------------------------------------------
> 1) Even the better CoolerMaster PSUs are very
> average (though some are 80+ certified), so
> comparing to them is a bit pointless. 2) The
> Saikano ones aren't any better. 3) If it's not
> even 80+ certified, it's crap. Fact. 4) What's
> this review, as I'd love to see the numbers and
> what tests were undertaken?
Shame that you dont accept other people findings...
Just for your information your not the only one than can give
advices in this forum whether you like it or not.
I think i have sufficient knowledge to advice people about products that
i know that works and this Saikano whether you like it or not works perfectly
for the VGA card that he wants to buy and its a lot cheaper than
any of those Coolermaster in Argentina.
Shame you dont understand spanish so i could show you a review of the Sakano 630w,
sure its not a great PSU but it certainly does the Job whether you like it or not...
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>gav Wrote:
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> > One piece of advice: Dont tell me what to
> advice
> > or not advice other users especially if you
> > dont know what are the possibilities are in my
> > country.
>
> I've not told you what to advise, only that the
> advice you have given is, in my eyes, poor.
Really!! then why did you quote 2 posts ago about me advicing the Saikano 630w then... ???!!!.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 07:52PM by jcaranti.
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> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gav@ He lives in my country (Argentina) so i
> know
> > what to offer him or not and where to get it
> > witch i doubt you can because you dont live in
> > argentina
.>
> Ah of course, because the components available in
> Argentina are certainly in a different class to
> those same components available outside of
> Argentina.
I said what i said because its meant as for costs in my country
and for the products that are avaialable for reasonable price
again i doubt that you can say anything on that subject since
you dont live in Argentina like i do
Paco lives in Argentinafor you information.
Do you live in Argentina?
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Infact in a review recently done in a computer
> > forum where i participate it was proven
> > to be better than the coolermaster 600w.
>
> gav Wrote:
> -----------------------------------------------------
> 1) Even the better CoolerMaster PSUs are very
> average (though some are 80+ certified), so
> comparing to them is a bit pointless. 2) The
> Saikano ones aren't any better. 3) If it's not
> even 80+ certified, it's crap. Fact. 4) What's
> this review, as I'd love to see the numbers and
> what tests were undertaken?
Shame that you dont accept other people findings...
Just for your information your not the only one than can give
advices in this forum whether you like it or not.
I think i have sufficient knowledge to advice people about products that
i know that works and this Saikano whether you like it or not works perfectly
for the VGA card that he wants to buy and its a lot cheaper than
any of those Coolermaster in Argentina.
Shame you dont understand spanish so i could show you a review of the Sakano 630w,
sure its not a great PSU but it certainly does the Job whether you like it or not...
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>gav Wrote:
>------------------------------------------------------
> > One piece of advice: Dont tell me what to
> advice
> > or not advice other users especially if you
> > dont know what are the possibilities are in my
> > country.
>
> I've not told you what to advise, only that the
> advice you have given is, in my eyes, poor.
Really!! then why did you quote 2 posts ago about me advicing the Saikano 630w then... ???!!!.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 07:52PM by jcaranti.
@#$%& you're up yourself. Shame you don't back yourself up with reason too.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> I said what i said because its meant as for costs
> in my country
> and for the products that are avaialable for
> reasonable price
> again i doubt that you can say anything on that
> subject since
> you dont live in Argentina like i do Paco
> lives in Argentina
> for you information.
> Do you live in Argentina?
The XFX I pointed out is far better than the Saikano PSU and is far cheaper than both it and the CoolerMaster. You don't need to reside in Argentina to know that.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Shame you dont understand spanish so i could show
> you a review of the Sakano 630w,
> sure its not a great PSU but it certainly does the
> Job whether you like it or not...
I don't need to read Spanish. The facts and figures will tell me everything relevant about that PSU in the short-term. The long-term is another matter, as what separates the good PSUs from the average is how well they protect other components when they fail. No review can tell you that - that's down to long-term experience and knowledge - unfortunately you appear to be basing your views on numbers which you won't even present. Like I said, the fact that it's not even 80+ certified (which should be the absolute minimum for any PSU) automatically means that it's a poor PSU - horribly so when you look at value to money.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Really!! then why did you quote 2 posts ago about
> me advicing the Saikano 630w then... ???!!!.
And you have a go at me for not understanding Spanish? I said the advice you gave was in my eyes poor. That a dynamo powered by a nacho-muncher would be better. The first part was serious, the second not. But regardless, I do know what generally available in your country, just as you'll know what's available here - you don't have to reside in that country to spot what's good value and what's hype.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> I said what i said because its meant as for costs
> in my country
> and for the products that are avaialable for
> reasonable price
> again i doubt that you can say anything on that
> subject since
> you dont live in Argentina like i do
Paco> lives in Argentina
> for you information.
> Do you live in Argentina?
The XFX I pointed out is far better than the Saikano PSU and is far cheaper than both it and the CoolerMaster. You don't need to reside in Argentina to know that.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Shame you dont understand spanish so i could show
> you a review of the Sakano 630w,
> sure its not a great PSU but it certainly does the
> Job whether you like it or not...
I don't need to read Spanish. The facts and figures will tell me everything relevant about that PSU in the short-term. The long-term is another matter, as what separates the good PSUs from the average is how well they protect other components when they fail. No review can tell you that - that's down to long-term experience and knowledge - unfortunately you appear to be basing your views on numbers which you won't even present. Like I said, the fact that it's not even 80+ certified (which should be the absolute minimum for any PSU) automatically means that it's a poor PSU - horribly so when you look at value to money.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Really!! then why did you quote 2 posts ago about
> me advicing the Saikano 630w then... ???!!!.
And you have a go at me for not understanding Spanish? I said the advice you gave was in my eyes poor. That a dynamo powered by a nacho-muncher would be better. The first part was serious, the second not. But regardless, I do know what generally available in your country, just as you'll know what's available here - you don't have to reside in that country to spot what's good value and what's hype.
gav Wrote:
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> @#$%& you're up yourself. Shame you don't back
> yourself up with reason too.
I dont have backup anything.
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I said what i said because its meant as for
> costs
> > in my country
> > and for the products that are avaialable for
> > reasonable price
> > again i doubt that you can say anything on that
> > subject since
> > you dont live in Argentina like i do Paco
> > lives in Argentina
> > for you information.
> > Do you live in Argentina?
>
> The XFX I pointed out is far better than the
> Saikano PSU and is far cheaper than both it and
> the CoolerMaster. You don't need to reside in
> Argentina to know that.
Tell him where to buy it and the cost.
Ill give you a tip, the best places and the cheapest are not
in the Internet in Argentina
Wait, im forgeting that your the expert in computer places in Argentina jajajaj
But wait, where you live? jejejeje.
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shame you dont understand spanish so i could
> show
> > you a review of the Sakano 630w,
> > sure its not a great PSU but it certainly does
> the
> > Job whether you like it or not...
>
> I don't need to read Spanish. The facts and
> figures will tell me everything relevant about
> that PSU in the short-term. The long-term is
> another matter, as what separates the good PSUs
> from the average is how well they protect other
> components when they fail. No review can tell you
> that - that's down to long-term experience and
> knowledge - unfortunately you appear to be basing
> your views on numbers which you won't even
> present. Like I said, the fact that it's not even
> 80+ certified (which should be the absolute
> minimum for any PSU) automatically means that it's
> a poor PSU - horribly so when you look at value to
> money.
>
>
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> gav Wrote:
>------------------------------------------------------
> > Really!! then why did you quote 2 posts ago
> about
> > me advicing the Saikano 630w then... ???!!!.
> And you have a go at me for not understanding
> Spanish? I said the advice you gave was in my eyes
> poor. That a dynamo powered by a nacho-muncher
> would be better. The first part was serious, the
> second not.
I said that you cant read the review in spanish of the Saikano 630w
because you cant understand spanish. Thats all.
I also said the Saikano its not a great PSU in my previous post, but it certainsly does the job to
take a Ati 4870 or 4890 witch is what the user that asked advice needed.
> gav Wrote:
>------------------------------------------------------
> But regardless, I do know what
> generally available in your country, just as
> you'll know what's available here - you don't have
> to reside in that country to spot what's good
> value and what's hype.
Thats exactly the reason i dont advice anyone here .
Wait a minute, your expert advice for any country and all its computer products jajajajajaj.
Man your so funny
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> @#$%& you're up yourself. Shame you don't back
> yourself up with reason too.
I dont have backup anything.
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I said what i said because its meant as for
> costs
> > in my country
> > and for the products that are avaialable for
> > reasonable price
> > again i doubt that you can say anything on that
> > subject since
> > you dont live in Argentina like i do
Paco> > lives in Argentina
> > for you information.
> > Do you live in Argentina?
>
> The XFX I pointed out is far better than the
> Saikano PSU and is far cheaper than both it and
> the CoolerMaster. You don't need to reside in
> Argentina to know that.
Tell him where to buy it and the cost.
Ill give you a tip, the best places and the cheapest are not
in the Internet in Argentina
Wait, im forgeting that your the expert in computer places in Argentina jajajaj
But wait, where you live? jejejeje.
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shame you dont understand spanish so i could
> show
> > you a review of the Sakano 630w,
> > sure its not a great PSU but it certainly does
> the
> > Job whether you like it or not...
>
> I don't need to read Spanish. The facts and
> figures will tell me everything relevant about
> that PSU in the short-term. The long-term is
> another matter, as what separates the good PSUs
> from the average is how well they protect other
> components when they fail. No review can tell you
> that - that's down to long-term experience and
> knowledge - unfortunately you appear to be basing
> your views on numbers which you won't even
> present. Like I said, the fact that it's not even
> 80+ certified (which should be the absolute
> minimum for any PSU) automatically means that it's
> a poor PSU - horribly so when you look at value to
> money.
>
>
> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> gav Wrote:
>------------------------------------------------------
> > Really!! then why did you quote 2 posts ago
> about
> > me advicing the Saikano 630w then... ???!!!.
> And you have a go at me for not understanding
> Spanish? I said the advice you gave was in my eyes
> poor. That a dynamo powered by a nacho-muncher
> would be better. The first part was serious, the
> second not.
I said that you cant read the review in spanish of the Saikano 630w
because you cant understand spanish. Thats all.
I also said the Saikano its not a great PSU in my previous post, but it certainsly does the job to
take a Ati 4870 or 4890 witch is what the user that asked advice needed.
> gav Wrote:
>------------------------------------------------------
> But regardless, I do know what
> generally available in your country, just as
> you'll know what's available here - you don't have
> to reside in that country to spot what's good
> value and what's hype.
Thats exactly the reason i dont advice anyone here
.Wait a minute, your expert advice for any country and all its computer products jajajajajaj.
Man your so funny
jcaranti Wrote:
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> I dont have backup anything.
That depends on whether you like making a tit of yourself or not
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Tell him where to buy it and the cost.
> Ill give you a tip, the best places and the
> cheapest are not
> in the Internet in Argentina
> Wait, im forgeting that your the expert in
> computer places in Argentina jajajaj
> But wait, where you live? jejejeje.
[...]
> I said that you cant read the review in spanish of
> the Saikano 630w
> because you cant understand spanish. Thats all.
> I also said the Saikano its not a great PSU in my
> previous post, but it certainsly does the job to
> take a Ati 4870 or 4890 witch is what the user
> that asked advice needed.
OK rather than guessing about how much I know about foreign markets, put your cards on the table. He can get a OCZ or XFX 80+ certified PSU for less than a massively more expensive, but inferior Saikano 630W PSU. Let's see where your loyalties lie.
In the meantime, you provide me with a link to a review of the Saikano PSU in any language in order to reinforce your point.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Thats exactly the reason i dont advice anyone here
> .
> Wait a minute, your expert advice for any country
> and all its computer products jajajajajaj.
> Man your so funny
Read the above. I know what he can get in Argentina, otherwise I'd be advising a Corsair, Seasonic and Enermax over and over again. Stop talking about "you're not in Argentina, you don't know man. You weren't there man!", put your cards on the table rather than just skipping around declaring that your suggestions are better, despite actually being worse, because you live there.
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> I dont have backup anything.
That depends on whether you like making a tit of yourself or not
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Tell him where to buy it and the cost.
> Ill give you a tip, the best places and the
> cheapest are not
> in the Internet in Argentina
> Wait, im forgeting that your the expert in
> computer places in Argentina jajajaj
> But wait, where you live? jejejeje.
[...]
> I said that you cant read the review in spanish of
> the Saikano 630w
> because you cant understand spanish. Thats all.
> I also said the Saikano its not a great PSU in my
> previous post, but it certainsly does the job to
> take a Ati 4870 or 4890 witch is what the user
> that asked advice needed.
OK rather than guessing about how much I know about foreign markets, put your cards on the table. He can get a OCZ or XFX 80+ certified PSU for less than a massively more expensive, but inferior Saikano 630W PSU. Let's see where your loyalties lie.
In the meantime, you provide me with a link to a review of the Saikano PSU in any language in order to reinforce your point.
jcaranti Wrote:
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> Thats exactly the reason i dont advice anyone here
>
.> Wait a minute, your expert advice for any country
> and all its computer products jajajajajaj.
> Man your so funny
Read the above. I know what he can get in Argentina, otherwise I'd be advising a Corsair, Seasonic and Enermax over and over again. Stop talking about "you're not in Argentina, you don't know man. You weren't there man!", put your cards on the table rather than just skipping around declaring that your suggestions are better, despite actually being worse, because you live there.
gav Wrote:
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> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > I said that you cant read the review in spanish
> of
> > the Saikano 630w
> > because you cant understand spanish. Thats all.
>
> > I also said the Saikano its not a great PSU in
> my
> > previous post, but it certainsly does the job
> to
> > take a Ati 4870 or 4890 witch is what the user
> > that asked advice needed.
>
> OK rather than guessing about how much I know
> about foreign markets, put your cards on the
> table. He can get a OCZ or XFX 80+ certified PSU
> for less than a massively more expensive, but
> inferior Saikano 630W PSU. Let's see where your
> loyalties lie.
Seems again you dont understand the problem. He clearly said he wants a
low budgest PSU. As far i know the OCZ, XFX, enermax and any other that you can mention
are way above what he wants to spend.
Its not about who is right or not its the idea that your focusing the discussion on a PSU that he can not
afford rather than what the budject that he wants to spend.
I also understand you think that your the only person that can have an opinion or advice to
others in this forum, well i got news for you, your not the only one
gav Wrote:
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> Read the above. I know what he can get in
> Argentina, otherwise I'd be advising a Corsair,
> Seasonic and Enermax over and over again. Stop
> talking about "you're not in Argentina, you don't
> know man. You weren't there man!", put your cards
> on the table rather than just skipping around
> declaring that your suggestions are better,
> despite actually being worse, because you live
> there.
You actually think that link he provided is the best and cheapest
place to buy pc parts??? then your so mistaken.
I also said in my previous post that the SAIKANO ITS NOT A GREAT PSU,
read it understand it and possibly comprehend that.
All im saying that PSU is good enough for what he wants it for and in his case
for that future 4870. And its also a fact that its cheaper so i advice him that.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 09:55PM by jcaranti.
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> jcaranti Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > I said that you cant read the review in spanish
> of
> > the Saikano 630w
> > because you cant understand spanish. Thats all.
>
> > I also said the Saikano its not a great PSU in
> my
> > previous post, but it certainsly does the job
> to
> > take a Ati 4870 or 4890 witch is what the user
> > that asked advice needed.
>
> OK rather than guessing about how much I know
> about foreign markets, put your cards on the
> table. He can get a OCZ or XFX 80+ certified PSU
> for less than a massively more expensive, but
> inferior Saikano 630W PSU. Let's see where your
> loyalties lie.
Seems again you dont understand the problem. He clearly said he wants a
low budgest PSU. As far i know the OCZ, XFX, enermax and any other that you can mention
are way above what he wants to spend.
Its not about who is right or not its the idea that your focusing the discussion on a PSU that he can not
afford rather than what the budject that he wants to spend.
I also understand you think that your the only person that can have an opinion or advice to
others in this forum, well i got news for you, your not the only one
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> Read the above. I know what he can get in
> Argentina, otherwise I'd be advising a Corsair,
> Seasonic and Enermax over and over again. Stop
> talking about "you're not in Argentina, you don't
> know man. You weren't there man!", put your cards
> on the table rather than just skipping around
> declaring that your suggestions are better,
> despite actually being worse, because you live
> there.
You actually think that link he provided is the best and cheapest
place to buy pc parts??? then your so mistaken.
I also said in my previous post that the SAIKANO ITS NOT A GREAT PSU,
read it understand it and possibly comprehend that.
All im saying that PSU is good enough for what he wants it for and in his case
for that future 4870. And its also a fact that its cheaper so i advice him that.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 09:55PM by jcaranti.
jcaranti Wrote:
> I also understand you think that your the only
> person that can have an opinion or advice to
> others in this forum, well i got news for you,
> your not the only one
@jcaranti: I know for a fact that Gav does not think this. Usually when the topic of hardware discussion comes up Gav and a small handful of other members often reply with their recommendation. At no point did Gav state that he thought that he was "better than you" - he was simply trying to offer helpful advice to the Paco - and just by my 4-5 years experience of being a forum member here, his opinion is usually always respected on this topic, and he also often offers to do our memebers massive favours building / fixing their pc's in person, during his own time purely to help others.
Don't forget our members get nothing out of offering this helpful advice, they are not consultants and do not get paid for sharing their knowledge and expertise, they do it out of kindness. With that in mind, please get off your high horse and respect someone else's opinion / knowledge / experience and stop behaving like a child.
@Everyone else: This was not meant to be an "I love Gav" post - however his efforts and generosity on this forum, I hope you will agree, should not go without recognition.
Now, lets get back on topic.. (Where is that Spannish review anyway jcaranti?).
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> I also understand you think that your the only
> person that can have an opinion or advice to
> others in this forum, well i got news for you,
> your not the only one
@jcaranti: I know for a fact that Gav does not think this. Usually when the topic of hardware discussion comes up Gav and a small handful of other members often reply with their recommendation. At no point did Gav state that he thought that he was "better than you" - he was simply trying to offer helpful advice to the Paco - and just by my 4-5 years experience of being a forum member here, his opinion is usually always respected on this topic, and he also often offers to do our memebers massive favours building / fixing their pc's in person, during his own time purely to help others.
Don't forget our members get nothing out of offering this helpful advice, they are not consultants and do not get paid for sharing their knowledge and expertise, they do it out of kindness. With that in mind, please get off your high horse and respect someone else's opinion / knowledge / experience and stop behaving like a child.
@Everyone else: This was not meant to be an "I love Gav" post - however his efforts and generosity on this forum, I hope you will agree, should not go without recognition.
Now, lets get back on topic.. (Where is that Spannish review anyway jcaranti?).
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It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.
It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.
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> @jcaranti: I know for a fact that Gav does not
> think this.
Please proove it
Willb Wrote:
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> Usually when the topic of hardware
> discussion comes up Gav and a small handful of
> other members. often reply with their
> recommendation.
Can you tell me something that i dont know?
Willb Wrote:
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> At no point did Gav state that he
> thought that he was "better than you"
Really?? Then explain why did he start by quoting the advice i
gave to paco and then questioning my advice based on budject
that Paco said he could spend??? ...
Willb Wrote:
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> Don't forget our members get nothing out of
> offering this helpful advice, they are not
> consultants and do not get paid for sharing their
> knowledge and expertise, they do it out of
> kindness.
Can you tell me somethat that i dont know?
Willb Wrote:
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> With that in mind, please get off your
> high horse and respect someone else's opinion /
> knowledge / experience and stop behaving like a
> child.
So your impossing your authority and perhaps your friendship
to possible favor with the other user ... Interesting.
Even beyond that i think i can advice better than Gav in Argentina
where to get the computer parts and at good an reasonable price.
I live in Argentina. Paco lives in Argentina, Gav does not live in Argentina.
When your a local you get know where you buy your bread, meats, vegetables etc,
the same goes with computer parts.
Also i have much knowledge and experience.
Last the advice that Gav was giving to Paco was over the budject of what it costs
here in Argentina.
Like i said the Saikano 630w is not a great a PSU but it certainly does the job.
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> @jcaranti: I know for a fact that Gav does not
> think this.
Please proove it
Willb Wrote:
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> Usually when the topic of hardware
> discussion comes up Gav and a small handful of
> other members. often reply with their
> recommendation.
Can you tell me something that i dont know?
Willb Wrote:
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> At no point did Gav state that he
> thought that he was "better than you"
Really?? Then explain why did he start by quoting the advice i
gave to paco and then questioning my advice based on budject
that Paco said he could spend??? ...
Willb Wrote:
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> Don't forget our members get nothing out of
> offering this helpful advice, they are not
> consultants and do not get paid for sharing their
> knowledge and expertise, they do it out of
> kindness.
Can you tell me somethat that i dont know?
Willb Wrote:
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> With that in mind, please get off your
> high horse and respect someone else's opinion /
> knowledge / experience and stop behaving like a
> child.
So your impossing your authority and perhaps your friendship
to possible favor with the other user ... Interesting.
Even beyond that i think i can advice better than Gav in Argentina
where to get the computer parts and at good an reasonable price.
I live in Argentina. Paco lives in Argentina, Gav does not live in Argentina.
When your a local you get know where you buy your bread, meats, vegetables etc,
the same goes with computer parts.
Also i have much knowledge and experience.
Last the advice that Gav was giving to Paco was over the budject of what it costs
here in Argentina.
Like i said the Saikano 630w is not a great a PSU but it certainly does the job.
Hmmm, do I detect 'handbags at ten paces'.......... 
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