Talladega 500 Superspeedway Tri-Oval track - Released
Posted by drt01
Hello,
after Indy Oval now i present my second oval Track: Talladega 500 Superspeedway Tri-Oval track.
Some info:
based on Original Indy GP4 Track, Pit-Garages Tools 2007 and Pitstands 2007 by TTM, Sky by LEE71.
Thank againg to Ruboy and friends for permission to use hi-res update of Indianapolis 2007 and thank to b-tone and MarioB for let me use some .tex files and graphical Objects (Trucks, Chopper, adverts, etc.) of their 2006 Nurburgring.
Gp4Italia and Gp4world can host the track if they desire.
New DownLoad Link
[FileHost.JustFreeSpace.Com]
or
[rapidshare.com]
Enjoy...
Davide
Some Pictures:
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2007 10:53PM by drt01.
after Indy Oval now i present my second oval Track: Talladega 500 Superspeedway Tri-Oval track.
Some info:
based on Original Indy GP4 Track, Pit-Garages Tools 2007 and Pitstands 2007 by TTM, Sky by LEE71.
Thank againg to Ruboy and friends for permission to use hi-res update of Indianapolis 2007 and thank to b-tone and MarioB for let me use some .tex files and graphical Objects (Trucks, Chopper, adverts, etc.) of their 2006 Nurburgring.
Gp4Italia and Gp4world can host the track if they desire.
New DownLoad Link
[FileHost.JustFreeSpace.Com]
or
[rapidshare.com]
Enjoy...
Davide
Some Pictures:
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;
;
;
bye
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2007 10:53PM by drt01.
Bellissimo grazie ma non riesco a scaricarlo, dopo che schiaccio per scaricarlo mi dà un errore 
It doesn't seem good to me, as I am a real oval fan, it's not realistic. Please, correct the banking which is far from being what it should be : 33° in corners, 16.5° in the tri-oval section. But it's not only a question of banking : you have to elevate the track so that the point which is at the inside of the track is at the same altitude at every sector of the track. I don't know if I said it right, so here is a picture :
And to finish about banking, the transition between from 0° to 33° and from 0° to 16.5° should be cosine, not linear.
The track is 100 meters longer, I think it's is really too much.
Something else is the CC Line which in my opinion needs a complete reworking, the ideal line is in the inside of the track.
Some hints :
- if you want to rework it, try to get Nascar Racing 2003 to grab realistic Talladega track objects and textures.
- here is a page from Talladega Superspeedway official website, with a lot of data you could use to make it better : [www.talladegasuperspeedway.com]
And last, you could try to simulate the real cameras around the track so that we have the feeling to see the race on TV.
In conclusion, I think you should rework it so that you can provide better tracks in the future.
My workthread here
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2007 11:24PM by Gusgus.
And to finish about banking, the transition between from 0° to 33° and from 0° to 16.5° should be cosine, not linear.
The track is 100 meters longer, I think it's is really too much.
Something else is the CC Line which in my opinion needs a complete reworking, the ideal line is in the inside of the track.
Some hints :
- if you want to rework it, try to get Nascar Racing 2003 to grab realistic Talladega track objects and textures.
- here is a page from Talladega Superspeedway official website, with a lot of data you could use to make it better : [www.talladegasuperspeedway.com]
And last, you could try to simulate the real cameras around the track so that we have the feeling to see the race on TV.
In conclusion, I think you should rework it so that you can provide better tracks in the future.
My workthread here
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2007 11:24PM by Gusgus.
Gusgus surely has got some points, but nevertheless good work for one of your first projects 
You used good textures and also some nice objects.
The phyiscal part is most important (imo) for a good track and sometimes it's dificult to get everything right. But maybe you can use this as a base for improving skills on cc-line and track sectors.
You used good textures and also some nice objects.The phyiscal part is most important (imo) for a good track and sometimes it's dificult to get everything right. But maybe you can use this as a base for improving skills on cc-line and track sectors.
One more thing, I just opened the .gp4 with GP4Builder, and checked the useless textures : there are hundreads of those, which makes the .wad heavy. Yould take them off and re-release the track. On the other hand, some textures are missing...
But don't worry, you will soon be able to criticise my work
My workthread here
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2007 11:50PM by Gusgus.
But don't worry, you will soon be able to criticise my work
My workthread here
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2007 11:50PM by Gusgus.
WE NEED THIS GUY!!!
Race with no fear! - Gilles Villeneuve
drt01 schreef:
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> thank to b-tone and MarioB for let me use some
> .tex files and graphical Objects (Trucks, Chopper,
> adverts, etc.) of their 2006 Nurburgring.
>
Maybe it's better to ask permission before you release a track, i can't remember i have ever recieved a message from you or even talked with you... A real shame....what's wrong with some guys, is it so hard to send a pm???
Nice to see guys making track but it don't like it this way. So it's fine for the objects you used for this track but you don't have to do it again....
edit; so sorry Davide, indeed you asked permission to Tony. I didn't knew that, sorry again
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2007 05:07PM by MarioB.
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> thank to b-tone and MarioB for let me use some
> .tex files and graphical Objects (Trucks, Chopper,
> adverts, etc.) of their 2006 Nurburgring.
>
Maybe it's better to ask permission before you release a track, i can't remember i have ever recieved a message from you or even talked with you... A real shame....what's wrong with some guys, is it so hard to send a pm???
Nice to see guys making track but it don't like it this way. So it's fine for the objects you used for this track but you don't have to do it again....
edit; so sorry Davide, indeed you asked permission to Tony. I didn't knew that, sorry again
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2007 05:07PM by MarioB.
drt01 Wrote:
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> @gusgus... you'are right but... the perfection is
> a limit that i've not reach yet. If you want try
> to put into reality your suggestions.
>
> bye
I'm not asking for perfection, because it doesn't exist. But that doesn't mean you have to rush your work. I won't try to improve your track, because :
- it's your job to do so, not mine
- it would mean to redo the whole track from scratch, which is too much work for me ATM
- I have other projects, soon coming to release, quite similar to yours, which will have everything I suggested to you
My workthread here
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> @gusgus... you'are right but... the perfection is
> a limit that i've not reach yet. If you want try
> to put into reality your suggestions.
>
> bye
I'm not asking for perfection, because it doesn't exist. But that doesn't mean you have to rush your work. I won't try to improve your track, because :
- it's your job to do so, not mine
- it would mean to redo the whole track from scratch, which is too much work for me ATM
- I have other projects, soon coming to release, quite similar to yours, which will have everything I suggested to you
My workthread here
dkpioe Wrote:
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> Gusgus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > - it's your job to do so, not mine
>
>
> Its not his job to do anything, he built a track,
> and hes happy with how it is, and you come here
> and didnt write anything positive, except told him
> its no good and you told him to remake it:
>
> >It doesn't seem good to me, as I am a real oval
> fan, it's not realistic. Please, correct the
> banking
> etc etc
>
> Look gusgus, if you dont like it, dont use it. and
> dont go telling people to correct things just to
> please you, instead go make it yourself like drt01
> wrote.
I wrote what I thought of the track. If you want my point, this must be a great oval to drive, but it's just an oval similar to Talladega Superspeedway.
I was planning not to use it, I have been told that it won't be modified, so I won't use it, that's simple. If he doesn't want to get better, it's his problem, not mine. I tried to make it see how to progress, but no sign from him to look for this progress, that's OK.
As I already said, I have other projects, planned long time ago, which take all my time at the moment, so if I was to make my own Talladega, I wouldn't begin it before more than a year, and it wouldn't be ready before two years.
And if you really want to know, part of my projects, there is a version of Indianapolis similar to his, began before he even thought about doing it.
My workthread here
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2007 11:48AM by Gusgus.
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> Gusgus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > - it's your job to do so, not mine
>
>
> Its not his job to do anything, he built a track,
> and hes happy with how it is, and you come here
> and didnt write anything positive, except told him
> its no good and you told him to remake it:
>
> >It doesn't seem good to me, as I am a real oval
> fan, it's not realistic. Please, correct the
> banking
> etc etc
>
> Look gusgus, if you dont like it, dont use it. and
> dont go telling people to correct things just to
> please you, instead go make it yourself like drt01
> wrote.
I wrote what I thought of the track. If you want my point, this must be a great oval to drive, but it's just an oval similar to Talladega Superspeedway.
I was planning not to use it, I have been told that it won't be modified, so I won't use it, that's simple. If he doesn't want to get better, it's his problem, not mine. I tried to make it see how to progress, but no sign from him to look for this progress, that's OK.
As I already said, I have other projects, planned long time ago, which take all my time at the moment, so if I was to make my own Talladega, I wouldn't begin it before more than a year, and it wouldn't be ready before two years.
And if you really want to know, part of my projects, there is a version of Indianapolis similar to his, began before he even thought about doing it.
My workthread here
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2007 11:48AM by Gusgus.
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