I have a suggestion to all authors. *Moderated*

well he edited on my request and its done so thats what counts

Drat, I have no say in this, I am just a user.

Well I wanted to edit what I originally said because I don't want to be as bad as him really.

why is everyone so quick to jump on the "lets bash enzojz" van?

from what i can see, is that he is just suggesting a credit system to prevent and stop the confusion which was the catalyst for last week's bust up.

for me, his credit idea is taking crediting a bit too far, all these developments through the years like shaders, normals, seabelt etc are now the norm, and so crediting the original author is not warranted.

you should only credit when you have borrowed, modified and recieved help from someone.

all enzojz has done is suggest a method, that enables clear clarification on what is seen as original and unoriginal.

its something to be discussed, and the nature here seems to be to discredit enzojz and everything he says because of last week, if you have'nt already noticed enzojz and nicola have made up their difference's, and should start with a clean slate, and consistanly bashing him is uncalled for.

mate you read the current message edited 4 times, not the original one

what do you mean?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2007 03:38PM by HondaF1Fan.

why does it starts over and over again?? can't this just be let to rest?

seems like this is a neverending story...

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Never mind if you don't agree with me, but please don't reply towards me but the suggestion. User is different with author, they are two different words, that's because they are doing not a same thing, so they will think differently, but they are equal. I had never such word that author is superior, and never thought like this.

And to these who said someone is pretending he is a GOD, all I want to say is that I don't believe in god and I just make a suggestion. I have been bored with the attacks here and don't fire me anymore.

I had never said I will leave, but I will never release any new or old works, I stand here just because I want to pay my attention to the community, that's all.

Credits, is nothing to me anymore coz I don't want to make any contribute to this community without tolerance. I will not lost any skill of modeling or texturing because of lacking credits. But for these who wants to contribute to the community, credits is some kind of power to advance. I don't mind if others pay credits to my works coz I'm not interested in but I make this suggestion just want to let others feel good.

Sorry for modify the words for many times, the reasons will only be two
1.Someone said something reasonable, so I edit it, I know many people never read the fully topic.
2.My English always exsists mistakes that will misleading the reader.

A Racing and Rail fan.

No one is 'bashing' anyone, and the post was reported in its current context. Had I seen the post in it's original form perhaps I might have closed the thread down or even removed it. We are all well aware of the enzojz and nicola spat, and this sort of thread that has been edited by it's author beyond recognition of what was originally posted doesn't help matters at all. People are getting a little tired of it is all. For a user to scream "I'm leaving I'm leaving" and then tell us from now on this is what I want the rules to be is a bit much to take, no wonder these so-called 'users' get their back up at this sort of behaviour.

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a question
From: Enzojz | To: HondaF1Fan | Date: 04/12/2007 04:00PM
Is the concept "equal" so sensitive to western people?

Answer to Enzojz pm... Well it is if you are implying you are better than me because you can make a car or two for a game. Yes they are good but it doesnt mean you are a better human being for it.

What Mike said :p

All is summed up in Mike's (HondaF1Fan's) post...

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HondaF1Fan Wrote:
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> a question
> From: Enzojz | To: HondaF1Fan | Date: 04/12/2007
> 04:00PM
> Is the concept "equal" so sensitive to western
> people?
>
> Answer to Enzojz pm... Well it is if you are
> implying you are better than me because you can
> make a car or two for a game. Yes they are good
> but it doesnt mean you are a better human being
> for it.


I'm not implying that.

In China people get used to be in different roles, so I think in the way of my own. I have heard of the equal concept of western before but never have a deep understand of it. Well, coz I'm speaking English to you, so I can pay a respect to your view. but if you are in china, say this, perhaps no one will pay attention to you and you will be laughed at.

A Racing and Rail fan.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2007 04:13PM by Enzojz.

coz you are only a user

I don't think that even in China things like that are being said. It's like saying to a woman 'you shouldn't get into this, you are only a woman'. I am pretty sure that isn't the case anymore in todays China.

Nickv Wrote:
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> coz you are only a user
>
> I don't think that even in China things like that
> are being said. It's like saying to a woman 'you
> shouldn't get into this, you are only a woman'. I
> am pretty sure that isn't the case anymore in
> todays China.

I didn't say you can't speak.

I said you can speak , hold or reserve your opinion, but be charge of it.

A Racing and Rail fan.

Enzojz Wrote:
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> HondaF1Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > a question
> > From: Enzojz | To: HondaF1Fan | Date:
> 04/12/2007
> > 04:00PM
> > Is the concept "equal" so sensitive to western
> > people?
> >
> > Answer to Enzojz pm... Well it is if you are
> > implying you are better than me because you can
> > make a car or two for a game. Yes they are good
> > but it doesnt mean you are a better human being
> > for it.
>
>
> I'm not implying that.
>
> In China people get used to be in different roles,
> so I think in the way of my own. I have heard of
> the equal concept of western before but never have
> a deep understand of it. Well, coz I'm speaking
> English to you, so I can pay a respect to your
> view.

HIGLIGHT but if you are in china, say this, perhaps
> no one will pay attention to you and you will be
> laughed at HIGHLIGHT

We arent in China

Western concept of equalty is this : each human being has opinions and should be respecter for that. Whatever role/work/origin/age/sex they are, they are all equals, and theirs opinions are all important, none of them is pointless or should be ignored, even if it's the most stupid opinion in the world.

You seem to accord no point to non-modders, as I am, and that's why we think you regard you as superior to others. You took in consideration their role in the community and then you think only modders could have a pointfull (opposite of pointless, I think) opinion. That's not respect our concept of equalty.

Anyway, I don't think there is so much concepts of equalty...

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2007 04:19PM by Gusgus.

HondaF1Fan Wrote:
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> We arent in China


so I respect your opinion, I just explain in order to let you understand why did I said "I'm an author and you are a user".

A Racing and Rail fan.

I don't get what you mean but if you are going to disrespect our "culture" then I won't agree with yours.

Gusgus Wrote:
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> Western concept of equalty is this : each human
> being has opinions and should be respecter for
> that. Whatever role/work/origin/age/sex they are,
> they are all equals, and theirs opinions are all
> important, none of them is pointless or should be
> ignored, even if it's the most stupid opinion in
> the world.
>
> You seem to accord no point to non-modders, as I
> am, and that's why we think you regard you as
> superior to others. You took in consideration
> their role in the community and then you think
> only modders could have a pointfull (opposite of
> pointless, I think) opinion. That's not respect
> our concept of equalty.
>
> Anyway, I don't think there is so much concepts of
> equalty...

Thanks to you explaination.

I would say sorry to all of you here coz I don't know much about it before.

A Racing and Rail fan.