GPxPatch 4.44 [Released]

@tamburello - If you set the AI Power Factor to around 485-500, you should get a reasonably equal top speed to the AI, depending on the setups. If you're 30kph slower then there's something wrong with your mod, maybe in the performance or physics files?

Just as a test, try any GP4 Central CSM Mod at Montreal using my Magic Data and see what results you get.

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Thanks René
@TomMK: OK, I will test these settings. Sometimes I go above 500 or under 485 to get real life topspeeds for each race. Until Version 4.44 it was no problem to in-decrease the md values, yet the game is using for the player car only the default value of the track while the ai got the fixed values. I'm really into realism in terms of topspeed, I have a collection from 80s-todays topseeds per track and try to adjust each race/year accordingly.

Great to hear that the new TV Overlays are a possible future feature. thanks René.

Is it theoretically possible to speed up pitstops to approximately 3 seconds or is this stuck in the game code?

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X (@ed24f1)

I'm playing in 2012 hockenheim with 2015 physics and magic datas, and the AI cars are constantly outbraking themselves at the end of the straights...I've Never seem they do that before...can It be gpxpatch related?

No it's physics related - car weight to be exact. See this thread.

The GP4 Central Mods do not suffer this problem.

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TomMK Wrote:
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> No it's physics related - car weight to be exact.
> See this thread.
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> The GP4 Central Mods do not suffer this problem.

Thanks, Tom! It makes a lot of sense...so the best action would be to always change track grip, without messing around with the car's weights?

it's curious. I never heard of this problem (is weight transfer in braking or is the total weight of the car? because they are different things). after being asked by Brazilian friends about what could be, i have a different opinion ... I think that could well be the use of excessive torque (torque editor), hence imply recalculating the entire power torque curve or using a work of another author.

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@jucksman - I leave the car weight at the default value ~600kg and use other values in the physics to replicate the performance of each season.

@phantaman - it's an easy experiment to prove that car weight causes this problem - set the weight to 1000kg and see what happens.

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in my physics the total weight of the chassis is 702,5Kg for everyone (not including the weight of fuel). then I do not see where your assumption fits that is the weight. I think maybe you guys do not use the same tools that I use to calculate, then these problems happen.
I use a telemetry tool that does calculations automatically based on this weight since it gives the dimensions of a chassis.
the weight distribution is calculated based on the circumference of the tire, using a MS Excel spreadsheet with standard data set by FIA (46:54 ... variation of 0.5% for more or less).

and I do not have this kind of problem (example below)

 GP4 1.02  Hotlap for track 15: Sochi
  Level: Ace /      Frame rate: 14.0 FPS
  Race type: Practise   Session: Unlimited practise
  Weather type: Custom   Probability of rain: 0%
 Car #19, driven by Felipe Massa (Williams - Mercedes)
  Power: 811 BHP, weight 714 kg, fuel laps: 4.0
  Lap time: 1:35.417 (split1 0:37.552, split2 1:23.889)
  F1 Auto Brake    : ---     Clutch   dev/mode: digital / switched
  F2 Auto Gear     : on               
  F3 Spin Recovery : ---     Brake    dev/mode: digital / switched
  F4 Indestructible: ---              
  F5 Best Line     : ---     Throttle dev/mode: digital / switched
  F6 Best Gear     : ---              
  F7 Throttle Help : on      Steering dev/mode: digital / switched
  F8 Steering Help : on               
     SH percentage : 100%             max lock: 20      rwcs: 65%
  Setup:
  13,10  R42.750:57.250F  28,33,38,43,48,52,56  7/6,6/5
  ARB: F 01500 R 0100     Tyre type: Soft Drys
  29/7/7/19/19/0850/27.0 [0.00]  30/7/7/19/19/0840/26.5 [0.00]
  40/1/2/04/05/0770/56.5 [0.00]  41/1/2/04/05/0750/57.0 [0.00]

GPx started on 25-01-2016 21:24:11
  Log version 1.16, GPxLap version 4.43
  init, car, damage, cc checksum: 090a8b38, 00000000, 6015de08, 336b33dd
  pit lane speed limit: 80
  free practice cars: 1
  save/restore car state: enabled
Custom track 15: 'Sochi'
  checksum 36178d73
Frame rate: 14.0 FPS
Possible failures: All
Random seed: 0,0,0,0,0,0
In-car setup changes: disabled
Pitstop time: -:--.--- (pitstop bug fixed: yes)
Session started normally
Driver             Car LN RP FP Fuel Wght   Split1   Split2 Lap_Time Session_Time AvPO SDur F1 F4 F7 OT MinSpd MaxSpd TWLR TWRR TWLF TWRF
Felipe Massa       #19  5 22  1  3.3  712 0:37.552 1:23.889 1:35.417 0h08m41.412s   7%  0.0  0  0  0 1w   0.00 326.77 0.74 0.78 1.37 1.73

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@phantaman - the best place to experiment is the 1st chicane at Monza. Try adjusting the car weight in your physics and look at the difference it makes. Start with 600kg, then 700kg, and so on, hopefully you'll see the difference that jucksman and others have observed.

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Thank you very much for your continued efforts SDI

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SchueyFan
Is it theoretically possible to speed up pitstops to approximately 3 seconds or is this stuck in the game code?

Interesting question Ed.
I was trying to figure out how we could move the checkered flag. First to the right hand side of the track when the pits are on the left but also move the flag position ahead several sectors.
Still not sure if it can be done but I was thinking of writing a new script in .scr format and have it applied or swapped out if you like in memory.

I think the following numbers might be timings??? If so even the tire change could speed up.

\Bathurst Construction\animation dat\animationdata\race\events \ scenescripts normal change

SCENE race_changes 15

SCENESCRIPT normal_change 10

STAGE ss_setup 2 8000
0 EVENT EV_SETUP
0 EVENT EV_SETUPFUELLERS

STAGE ss_jackup 13 6000
0 EVENT EV_PITINDICATED
100 EVENT EV_CARIN
500 EFFECT NEW_FRONT_JACKING_HEIGHT 0
1070 EFFECT CARWHEEL_FR 0
1150 EFFECT NEW_REAR_JACKING_HEIGHT 1
1630 EFFECT CARWHEEL_RL 0
2306 EFFECT CARWHEEL_FL 0
2450 EFFECT FINISHED_ANY_JACKING_UP
2633 EFFECT CARWHEEL_RR 0
4150 EFFECT CARWHEEL_RL 1
4360 EFFECT CARWHEEL_FR 1
4570 EFFECT CARWHEEL_FL 1
5596 EFFECT CARWHEEL_RR 1

STAGE ss_partsfinished 4 600
0 EFFECT STARTED_ANY_JACKING_DOWN
0 EVENT EV_WHEELSDONE
450 EFFECT NEW_FRONT_JACKING_HEIGHT 2
500 EFFECT NEW_REAR_JACKING_HEIGHT 3

STAGE ss_fuelfinished 1 100
0 EVENT EV_FUELFULL

STAGE ss_reinsertrefueller 1 100
0 EVENT EV_FUELFULL

STAGE ss_changefinished 2 1500
0 EVENT EV_CARGO
1300 EFFECT PITSTOP_SEQUENCE_OVER

STAGE ss_finished 1 200
0 EVENT EV_CARGONE

STAGE ss_cancel 1 8000
0 EVENT EV_CANCEL

STAGE ss_jackmandanger 1 1200
0 EVENT EV_PANIC

STAGE ss_jackmandangerover 1 8000
0 EVENT EV_PANICOVER

TomMK Wrote:
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> No it's physics related - car weight to be exact.
> See this thread.
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> The GP4 Central Mods do not suffer this problem.

Thanks for that link - I've noticed cars struggling to pull up at Monza in the past so good to know what the cause was.

auscain Wrote:
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> I think the following numbers might be timings???
> If so even the tire change could speed up.

Good analysis could be something to look into!

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X (@ed24f1)

I'm using phantaman files physics,torque v8 cap file,performance all of them and I always had that monza first chicane issue with ai,since I've changed the car weight to 600 kg like Tom suggested me everything worked fine and lap times didn't change so much compare to reality,my only proble is when ai cars spin they never recover from the spin,the car goes up to 15.000 rpm but it doesn't move,so if an ai car spins in my gp4 they always retire,any idea on how to solve this issue please?,also I hope I've helped with the car weight problem,before start a race I always adjust power and grip value of the track with tsm though till I get to similar f1 real values

Greetings
Alessio


CoM3 oN McL4R3n.....

The pitstop time can be reduced with a hex editor, but I don't know of any tool that does it.

René Smit, Independent Software Developer.
Download my GPx tools here.

My dream is learn how to make TV overlays! =D Fantastic job, Rene!!!


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Big Thanks René

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With the physics I´m using, I have been experiencing a lot of oversteer under hard braking (I use the keyboard). Even if I increase front bias, the rear tyres still lock up if I try to brake deeper into the corner. Is there anything I can change in gpxpatch or the physics, to make it less overseery?

I have an idea

Is their a posibility to have an option to be able to choose freely to start with hard tyres before entering a race instead of soft tyres?