Re: Genesis 2014 G1 Cars [CLOSED]

Genesis@ if it comes to what the user above posted you can always post the car pack here: [gp4forever.com]

Kind regards
Jorge.

genesis1966 Wrote:
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> stopper-12 Wrote:
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> > [i61.tinypic.com]
> >
> > Funny thing is... I work with these guys. They
> are
> > called VMT (Virtual Modding Team) They made
> mods
> > for F1Challenge 2011 converted from Codemasters
> ,
> > 2012 Converted from Codemasters , 2013
> converted
> > from GP4 and 2014 converted from GP4.
> >
> > That Mercedes was originally from GP4...
>
>
> VMT W05 ...so if this model is the one made here
> then how come it has the mapping from codemasters
> model, yet it was claimed to be made `from
> scratch`.... i think people should be more open
> minded when they use the word `MY`...the internet
> was a platform that was created way back when for
> the purpose of sharing....if you do not want to
> share your modifications then simple...do not
> upload them.....but to start claiming to have
> built models from scratch or you have some
> copyright on the model is simply crazy.... for a
> start the sponsors are all used without
> permission...something FOM are stopping on gaming
> sites, iRacing was recently hit with a demmand to
> remove a mod.....the only reaon gp4/f1c are not
> bothered about is because both are old, have a
> small user database and most of the material is
> offered free.......but it is still illegal to
> produce what we do....or modify game files from
> codemasters.
>
> be thankful there are still some modders around to
> keep these older titles alive....AS FOR A CLAIM OF
> `SERVING THE COMMUNITY`...how about serving your
> own ego.....your not newey and i fear you are
> losing touch with reality.....sun is out, get some
> air.....
>
> many of these `groups ` IMT, RF, VMT, VRF etc
> etc...are more package installers than anything
> else, offering a complete season in one
> installer....not many are `modders` in the actual
> car builds.....that is a shame.
> in the olden golden days there were zillions of
> modders....now just a handful left......
>
> gen.


Nobody really cares about F1C anymore. The only active modders are the Brazilian community and VMT. They converted the 2011 and 2012 mod from Codemasters but 2013 and 2014 no.
They got the cars from GP4Forever.

Just so you know what killed the F1C community and racesimulations was that "That's my car, ask persmission, leecher" stuff. I agree with you partially. But if you take other people's work at least give them credit.

Now, what is stirring this post up is:

You keep posting renders and promissing release dates. At least post some ingame screenshots or something that makes people really know that you are really working.

Im skeptical because I saw your youtube video for 2013 cars and I've never seen them being released or available. tbh I've never seen any of your work

have done.....tooooooo much work for different titles....we have even done files for pes series of football games aswell.
in f1c / rfactor we have provided all types of files, from aero parts to showrooms....we do not do complete tracks all though we have converted a few..
not going to provide a list as it would only be for you....but you are probably using, or have used one of our files in-game if you have used f1 or football sims....type in `genesis f1` in google...some files have been credited to me..although i never leave my name people like birkuc have used and credited my files....i`d rather just produce files and leave the pat on the back for ego hunters.....i have far too much going on to lose time online in f1 community driven projects.

the 2013 cars were released to an online league but were not made public (unless a registered user released material)...this was done at the request of the website....we also had some minor issues with FOM who wrote a beautiful, if not direct email to remove some material from our website!!!....fkers are sniffing everyewhere to remove copyright material...crazy!

i have seen and done the `leecher` stuff years ago....people claiming ownership of a vodafone logo because the made it darker!!!!!!....total madness that to my surprise is still evident today!...

right qualy on.....stopper have some faith, i am not new school fish....been around a long long time with the modding community.
renders....yes a pain for people waiting, i understand that...but you all want good mods....leave it to me.....on the point of what was said above the reason i say leave it to me is because some of the changes i make are code based hex edited files, or re-written code for various in-game actions....adding kers, drs, moving aero parts and above all the game AI...we have got our qualy times in game so that the top 10 are seperated by 100ths..with a total grid gap of 2 secs.....we have changed way points for tracks, edited driver, engine and chassis AI....these things require many hours of testing to get right....but we do not have fked up grids with the AI having marussia or super aguri in poll....and in race mode we had the usual suspects at the front as per real life seasons.....so i would say we do about 70% graphics and 30% code......

right time for qualy....

gen.

genesis1966 écrivait:
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> have done.....tooooooo much work for different
> titles....we have even done files for pes series
> of football games aswell.
> in f1c / rfactor we have provided all types of
> files, from aero parts to showrooms....we do not
> do complete tracks all though we have converted a
> few..

As far as I know you didn't yet release anything for GP4. I am here since age and this year is the first time I heard from you.
To be honest , we are not waiting anything from you but if you want to release good stuffs for GP4... that's fine.

But, stop to be so arrogant and to give some lessons at guys who provided high quality stuffs which have been also so often converted
to others games.... like F1C/rfactor/ etc....

Just do it !!!

Be sure, we will have a special look at your work when/if it will be released and we will see if you are enough fair to provide from what/who
your work is based





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2014 08:50PM by gezere.

gezere Wrote:
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> genesis1966 écrivait:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > have done.....tooooooo much work for different
> > titles....we have even done files for pes
> series
> > of football games aswell.
> > in f1c / rfactor we have provided all types of
> > files, from aero parts to showrooms....we do
> not
> > do complete tracks all though we have converted
> a
> > few..
>
> As far as I know you didn't yet release anything
> for GP4. I am here since age and this year is the
> first time I heard from you.
> To be honest , we are not waiting anything from
> you but if you want to release good stuffs for
> GP4... that's fine.
>
> But, stop to be so arrogant and to give some
> lessons at guys who provided high quality stuffs
> which have been also so often converted
> to others games.... like F1C/rfactor/ etc....
>
> Just do it !!!
>
> Be sure, we will have a special look at your work
> when/if it will be released and we will see if you
> are enough fair to provide from what/who
> your work is based


lol....... i rest my case.

gen.

genesis1966 Schreef:
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> gezere Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > genesis1966 écrivait:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > have done.....tooooooo much work for
> different
> > > titles....we have even done files for pes
> > series
> > > of football games aswell.
> > > in f1c / rfactor we have provided all types
> of
> > > files, from aero parts to showrooms....we do
> > not
> > > do complete tracks all though we have
> converted
> > a
> > > few..
> >
> > As far as I know you didn't yet release
> anything
> > for GP4. I am here since age and this year is
> the
> > first time I heard from you.
> > To be honest , we are not waiting anything from
> > you but if you want to release good stuffs for
> > GP4... that's fine.
> >
> > But, stop to be so arrogant and to give some
> > lessons at guys who provided high quality
> stuffs
> > which have been also so often converted
> > to others games.... like F1C/rfactor/ etc....
> >
> > Just do it !!!
> >
> > Be sure, we will have a special look at your
> work
> > when/if it will be released and we will see if
> you
> > are enough fair to provide from what/who
> > your work is based
>
>
> lol....... i rest my case.
>
> gen.


not very professional... for a professional !!!

YOU ARE NOT the only one who makes mods in this community... YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE who makes mods, who never releases his work for the community to enjoy !!!

In Belgium we have a saying:

" Veel beloven en weinig geven, laten de zotten in vreugde leven."

translation: " promise and give little, let the fools live in joy."

I think you're just a joke... and I'm not the only one... gezere is right !

I rest my case also with a big LOL !!!



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GPGSL-4: ONE Racing Driver, S8~S11 // TYRANT Racing Driver, S12:1st, S13:13th, S14:1st, S15:13th //
WREXHAM Motorsports Racing Driver S16: ?

in the UK we have a saying also.... what you gonna say when they are released....translated this means ... thank you.
but instead a constant stream of `doubt` and `silly comments`...only 1 page ago I was being offered a fight behind the bike sheds!......total madness.....a few renders and `boom` ...like kids in a sweet shop!!..

how about if I just say....i`ll release them when I am good and ready....does that make your life less stressful here?...

I could have released them way back when....but some dick decided to highlight errors because in the space of 3 weeks I had edited 22 cars/liverys but got slated because they were not quality!....that dick at that time was correct...but the aim was to give you `something` until the quality arrived....i am saying after all this time, and the fact I also have a life to lead!...I have produced 22 cars of decent quality, with also models from work in progress, livery templates for sponsor changes...this takes time....but you want quality right?......

your right ...i do not claim to be the `one and only `...you have the option to follow/open this thread.....why bother to do so?......you like everyone else is interested because you like what you see, yet you simply come here to express doubt or come out with some ship of fools saying!.... how does that look when you are downloading and enjoying the cars and extras ive added?....it makes you look pretty tarded.....so why not wait a little longer, then come out with all the lingo from Belgium...until then stock up your supplies as I have a mate travelling there next friday to pick up some cheap stocks....what would we do without our corner shop of europe!...

word on steering wheels.....am i right in saying just the rb10 does not use the lcd screens?

gen.

RB10, VJM07, FW36 don't have LCD screens. Off the top pf my head, maybe Caterham and/or Lotus, yoo?

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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager

i`ll have to check the onboards for verification...but i think you are right...ty anyway.

gen.

From the last renders, the dick (what a polite way to speak from somebody...) could still highlight a lot of things which don't smell quality...

genesis1966 Wrote:
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> in the UK we have a saying also.... what you gonna
> say when they are released....translated this
> means ... thank you.
> but instead a constant stream of `doubt` and
> `silly comments`...only 1 page ago I was being
> offered a fight behind the bike sheds!......total
> madness.....a few renders and `boom` ...like kids
> in a sweet shop!!..
>
> how about if I just say....i`ll release them when
> I am good and ready....does that make your life
> less stressful here?...
>
> I could have released them way back when....but
> some dick decided to highlight errors because in
> the space of 3 weeks I had edited 22 cars/liverys
> but got slated because they were not
> quality!....that dick at that time was
> correct...but the aim was to give you `something`
> until the quality arrived....i am saying after all
> this time, and the fact I also have a life to
> lead!...I have produced 22 cars of decent quality,
> with also models from work in progress, livery
> templates for sponsor changes...this takes
> time....but you want quality right?......
>
> your right ...i do not claim to be the `one and
> only `...you have the option to follow/open this
> thread.....why bother to do so?......you like
> everyone else is interested because you like what
> you see, yet you simply come here to express doubt
> or come out with some ship of fools saying!....
> how does that look when you are downloading and
> enjoying the cars and extras ive added?....it
> makes you look pretty tarded.....so why not wait a
> little longer, then come out with all the lingo
> from Belgium...until then stock up your supplies
> as I have a mate travelling there next friday to
> pick up some cheap stocks....what would we do
> without our corner shop of europe!...
>
> word on steering wheels.....am i right in saying
> just the rb10 does not use the lcd screens?
>
> gen.

Good lord, it's like listening to the shipping forecast with a dodgy radio signal.

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GPGSL: S6 - TafuroGP Tester (14th) /// S7 - ART Tester (6th) /// S8 - Demon Driver (13th) /// S9 - Demon/Snake Driver (13th) /// S10 - Snake Driver (???) ///]
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness" - Charles Bukowski

Guys take it easy.

Give Genesis his chance. He promised in the silverstone event to release it.

If Genesis cant deliver it could be wise to ask for help to an experience modder that released cars in the past.
Its no shame to ask for help.

Kind regards
Jorge.

Incident 2k9 Wrote:
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> genesis1966 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > in the UK we have a saying also.... what you
> gonna
> > say when they are released....translated this
> > means ... thank you.
> > but instead a constant stream of `doubt` and
> > `silly comments`...only 1 page ago I was being
> > offered a fight behind the bike
> sheds!......total
> > madness.....a few renders and `boom` ...like
> kids
> > in a sweet shop!!..
> >
> > how about if I just say....i`ll release them
> when
> > I am good and ready....does that make your life
> > less stressful here?...
> >
> > I could have released them way back when....but
> > some dick decided to highlight errors because
> in
> > the space of 3 weeks I had edited 22
> cars/liverys
> > but got slated because they were not
> > quality!....that dick at that time was
> > correct...but the aim was to give you
> `something`
> > until the quality arrived....i am saying after
> all
> > this time, and the fact I also have a life to
> > lead!...I have produced 22 cars of decent
> quality,
> > with also models from work in progress, livery
> > templates for sponsor changes...this takes
> > time....but you want quality right?......
> >
> > your right ...i do not claim to be the `one and
> > only `...you have the option to follow/open
> this
> > thread.....why bother to do so?......you like
> > everyone else is interested because you like
> what
> > you see, yet you simply come here to express
> doubt
> > or come out with some ship of fools saying!....
> > how does that look when you are downloading and
> > enjoying the cars and extras ive added?....it
> > makes you look pretty tarded.....so why not wait
> a
> > little longer, then come out with all the lingo
> > from Belgium...until then stock up your
> supplies
> > as I have a mate travelling there next friday
> to
> > pick up some cheap stocks....what would we do
> > without our corner shop of europe!...
> >
> > word on steering wheels.....am i right in
> saying
> > just the rb10 does not use the lcd screens?
> >
> > gen.
>
> Good lord, it's like listening to the shipping
> forecast with a dodgy radio signal.

whatever sails your boat....i prefer to watch sky sports....

belgium.....as for quality...easy use something else on the forum that has been produced by a skillful modder....or you can use your own and accept average as your benchmark....you have choice, how wonderful.


great to see Williams back at the sharp end.....

gen.

jcaranti Wrote:
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> Guys take it easy.
>
> Give Genesis his chance. He promised in the
> silverstone event to release it.

You do realise he has promised to release it about 15 times so far stretching back to March? I think it's reasonable people are sceptical.

As I said on the last page, this thread really should be closed until release as it will only cause further problems.

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X (@ed24f1)

SchueyFan Wrote:
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> jcaranti Wrote:
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> > Guys take it easy.
> >
> > Give Genesis his chance. He promised in the
> > silverstone event to release it.
>
> You do realise he has promised to release it about
> 15 times so far stretching back to March? I think
> it's reasonable people are sceptical.


Do you realise that i can have an opinion?

Do you know this is a forum? People comment on them ...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2014 07:36AM by jcaranti.

EDIT: deleted

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X (@ed24f1)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2014 08:58AM by SchueyFan.

Smells like a messy thread

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GPGSL -
GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager

or teen spirit......




it`s been made messy by the same fools that mess up most threads with silly comments, i had hoped to release this car pack a few weeks ago(1st edits were actually done in feb!)...as a finished article...some issues prevented me doing this (mainly frame rates due to car models and textures being to high and therefore on high car counts in-game there were issues)....we have lowered the textures and rear/front wing models to help with this.....in most games the LOD is made up of 3 models, high/med/low...our cars do not have med/low...so it was a long job having to reduce the wings...
i am not going to explain the issues in detail as it`s all pretty boring.....and i dont want to sound like the shipping forcast!..

the deal was silverstone gp weekend...and that is the target for release of all 11 teams, hopefully all with new steering displays and kers/ers roll hoop lights.
so if you want to have a tarded hissy childish fit like a bag of 3 month old urine then go ahead....but it might be wise to hold back until the British GP....otherwise you will make yourself look far worse...in the 1 year bag of piss zone!...

gen.

okay guys, time to shut your cakeholes and wait for the Silverstone race! I guess for the members here that genesis trust among the members here will disapear after that if the cars are not released.
That's his choise and his alone.

Im not taking sides, since I have all cars for the 2014 season and I don't feel in need of this carpack. If it's released, great. If it's not, shame that the community here has been lied to for almost 4 mounths. If the cars are, as I've read on the last pages, leeched, then he's not going to be able to hide it. And then his time around here is done.

Just please, stop running this community through the mud and keep it friendly! I visit this page almost daily, and hate seeing the @#$%& that's been happening here. As Lez said, if you need to fight, do it via PMs!


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