Monaco GP Thread **SPOILERS**

What a fantastic race. Lewis was a very lucky boy, but backed it up with awesome pace in the middle stint.

Sutil did a great job, such hard luck that he got hit.

Too much to think about really.

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Slash Wrote:
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> sorry for half the cummunity here (Kimi Lovers),
> but he's not that good compared to his teammate...


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DaveEllis schreef:
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> Massa - had an off
> Kimi - drove like a fool
> Lewis - had an accident
> Alonso - had an accident
>
> The real stars of this show were Webber, Vettel,
> Barricello and Sutil tbh. The top drivers lucked
> out so much.


Second that.

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marcl Wrote:
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> why do they keep sayinh lewis hit the wall on lap
> 1 he never


Because they are so busy masturbating at Lewis's win to get their facts right.

DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Massa - had an off
> Kimi - drove like a fool
> Lewis - had an accident
> Alonso - had an accident
>
> The real stars of this show were Webber, Vettel,
> Barricello and Sutil tbh. The top drivers lucked
> out so much.

Vettel missed the chicane about 3 laps in a row, so I'd take him out personally. Webber and Barrichello did well, but Sutil was stunning. So unfortunate for him. To be fair, Kimi should get a grid penalty for Montreal for that. Very well held (had Sutil not been there) though.

marcl Wrote:
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> remember though kimi just needs to finish its days
> like this you can loose all your points and lewis
> showed in china

Err, yeah. :P

y2cwr2005 Wrote - 1:17pm:
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> Nelson on dry tires, who's ready for a safety car
> then? :p

Damas Wrote - 1:19pm:
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> Brilliant Noob is in the wall!

ROFL!

Spectacular race! Such a shame for Sutil, he really deserved it. I hadn't expected Hamilton to win after he hit the barrier, I was quite surprised he came out of the pit 4th!

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villej Wrote:
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> "You are always as good as your last race..."
>
> Slash Wrote:
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> > sorry for half the cummunity here (Kimi
> Lovers),
> > but he's not that good compared to his
> teammate...


I see your point, but Kimi really isnt that good as people thinks..

Kimi, so, Massa Fernando Sebastian is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?

IWE schreef:
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> villej Wrote:
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> > "You are always as good as your last race..."
> >
> > Slash Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > sorry for half the cummunity here (Kimi
> > Lovers),
> > > but he's not that good compared to his
> > teammate...
>
>
> I see your point, but Kimi really isnt that good
> as people thinks..


Yeah, he lucked into the championship...

lewis clipped the wall on lap 6....he was lucky to get on and the pit was so close..

I guess Massa was on a full wets setup while Raikkonen was on a full dry setup..pity he hit Sutil as he was doing a great race but its a pure racing accident.

Driver of the day :
Sutil for keeping it smooth.

As predicting by alot Mclaren matched Ferrari, or even faster actually...luck played its part as well but that's racing...Canada will be a different story than it was last year as Ferrari improved a bit at these kind of circuits

da silva schreef:
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> but its a pure racing accident.

It was clearly not. Raikkonen lost control because he hit a damp/wet spot on the track.

kimi was not even trying to pass he lost it the same way dc did it happens not much u can do.

If you watch Sutil on the replay, it looks like he might bin it before he gets hit. He was already wide, the back is out, and he has an armful of opposite lock.
Terrific drive though, and damn unlucky if he was to have survived that moment

Nickv Wrote:
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> da silva schreef:
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> > but its a pure racing accident.
>
> It was clearly not. Raikkonen lost control because
> he hit a damp/wet spot on the track.


Is that part of racing and trying to go fast?? Alright bad mistake..but still a racing accident..

Using that reasoning no driver can do a mistake and as far as i know today alot did including Hamilton, Alonso, Massa, Raikkonen, Kovalainen (not sure if driver error!), Rosberg, Button, Glock, Bourdais, Coulthard.....some got lucky some didn't but that's racing

da silva schreef:
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> Nickv Wrote:
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> > da silva schreef:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > but its a pure racing accident.
> >
> > It was clearly not. Raikkonen lost control
> because
> > he hit a damp/wet spot on the track.
>
>
> Is that part of racing and trying to go fast??
> Alright bad mistake..but still a racing
> accident..
>
> Using that reasoning no driver can do a mistake
> and as far as i know today alot did including
> Hamilton, Alonso, Massa, Raikkonen, Kovalainen
> (not sure if driver error!), Rosberg, Button,
> Glock, Bourdais, Coulthard.....some got lucky some
> didn't but that's racing


They all made errors. All their own fault, as I haven't heard of any broken suspensions or whatever that can have caused it. If you reason like you, you can put every accident in the race-accident category. Kimi hit the damp spot, then lost control and crashed into Sutil. Hadn't he hit that spot, he wouldn't have hit Sutil.

I don't know what on earth Kimi or Nando were doing in this race, appalling drives by both of them! Truly appalling!

On balance, Lewis did a good job I feel. Yes he got lucky not to damage his car more on teh wall, but you make your own luck to an extent. Take Rosberg for example - he got off lightly with his accidents, like Lewis, but he KEPT HITTING THINGS lol ... and Hamilton's pace in the middle of the race was inspired.

Absolutely gutted for Sutil. I think that incident will be playing on Kimi's conscience for ages, but it's really harsh luck because there's not much he could have done about it. That would have surprised anybody, and he couldn't have directed his car anywhere else after that. In mitigation, Force India would have remained 10th in the Championship regardless of result due to the points scored today by Honda and Toro Rosso, but it's still really harsh.

This is turning out to be a great Championship! Montreal is always an excellent race, and I hope we see the title fight stay this close! Actually, a decent finish for Koby or Nando wouldn't go amiss.

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Locke Cole Wrote:
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> Absolutely gutted for Sutil. I think that incident
> will be playing on Kimi's conscience for ages, but
> it's really harsh luck because there's not much he
> could have done about it. That would have
> surprised anybody, and he couldn't have directed
> his car anywhere else after that. In mitigation,
> Force India would have remained 10th in the
> Championship regardless of result due to the
> points scored today by Honda and Toro Rosso, but
> it's still really harsh.

That's a irrelevant. They lose a LOT of money if they finish the season without points.

Sutil did have a bit of a slide on (he got a touch sideways at the exact same place Kimi lost it), but at the very least he'd have lost a place to Kimi, and even then it was unlikely. He was still very much in control, he'd just have not made the apex.

Kimi caused an avoidable accident. In the rules it is stated that avoidable accidents should be punished. I don't see how he can get away without a penalty in Montreal.

Nickv Wrote:
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> da silva schreef:
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> > Nickv Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > da silva schreef:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > but its a pure racing accident.
> > >
> > > It was clearly not. Raikkonen lost control
> > because
> > > he hit a damp/wet spot on the track.
> >
> >
> > Is that part of racing and trying to go fast??
> > Alright bad mistake..but still a racing
> > accident..
> >
> > Using that reasoning no driver can do a mistake
> > and as far as i know today alot did including
> > Hamilton, Alonso, Massa, Raikkonen, Kovalainen
> > (not sure if driver error!), Rosberg, Button,
> > Glock, Bourdais, Coulthard.....some got lucky
> some
> > didn't but that's racing
>
>
> They all made errors. All their own fault, as I
> haven't heard of any broken suspensions or
> whatever that can have caused it. If you reason
> like you, you can put every accident in the
> race-accident category. Kimi hit the damp spot,
> then lost control and crashed into Sutil. Hadn't
> he hit that spot, he wouldn't have hit Sutil.


I agree with Locke Cole, Kimi had nothing to do...Hitting the damp spot was a big mistake..but TBH Alonso trying to overtake Heidfeld at loews was much worse as he was way back and was impossible to overtake there.

It's true we do not expect such errors from a World Champion but mistakes happen.Shame Sutil was just there but that's racing.

gav schreef:
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> Locke Cole Wrote:
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> -----
> > Absolutely gutted for Sutil. I think that
> incident
> > will be playing on Kimi's conscience for ages,
> but
> > it's really harsh luck because there's not much
> he
> > could have done about it. That would have
> > surprised anybody, and he couldn't have
> directed
> > his car anywhere else after that. In
> mitigation,
> > Force India would have remained 10th in the
> > Championship regardless of result due to the
> > points scored today by Honda and Toro Rosso,
> but
> > it's still really harsh.
>
> That's a irrelevant. They lose a LOT of money if
> they finish the season without points.
>
> Sutil did have a bit of a slide on (he got a touch
> sideways at the exact same place Kimi lost it),
> but at the very least he'd have lost a place to
> Kimi, and even then it was unlikely. He was still
> very much in control, he'd just have not made the
> apex.
>
> Kimi caused an avoidable accident. In the rules it
> is stated that avoidable accidents should be
> punished. I don't see how he can get away without
> a penalty in Montreal.


normally you quit make some sense, except the last part, every accident is avoidable, so everyone who has an accident should be punished in montreal right?

Was a good race IMO. Quite alot of action.

Kimi was really slow today in the wet but as we saw with the fastest lap it could have been a different story if there wasnt rain.

Shame for Sutil, but comon Force india trying to get Kimi suspended. wtf. Racing incident..

Oh well hopefully Kimi can rejuvinate himself with a good result at Montreal