James Allen removal.
Posted by DaveEllis
Signed.
Where I feel it is unfair and slightly harsh to try and remove a man from a position he probably loves, its also unbelievable, ignorant and selfish of himself that he has not realised he clearly isn't suited to the job.
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Where I feel it is unfair and slightly harsh to try and remove a man from a position he probably loves, its also unbelievable, ignorant and selfish of himself that he has not realised he clearly isn't suited to the job.
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FRESCO Wrote:
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> Signed.
>
> Where I feel it is unfair and slightly harsh to
> try and remove a man from a position he probably
> loves, its also unbelievable, ignorant and selfish
> of himself that he has not realised he clearly
> isn't suited to the job.
Lol.
Its an online petition, whats it gonna do ?? A bunch of lads on the internet are not going to remove JamesA from his posistion... How far is this going to get other than ITV trash ?
If its the Lewis stuff thats bothering them, perhaps Mr Steve Ryder would be a better candidate.
And it us 'we' who do not think he is suited to the job, but others may do. I personally no longer have a problem with him...
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
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> Signed.
>
> Where I feel it is unfair and slightly harsh to
> try and remove a man from a position he probably
> loves, its also unbelievable, ignorant and selfish
> of himself that he has not realised he clearly
> isn't suited to the job.
Lol.
Its an online petition, whats it gonna do ?? A bunch of lads on the internet are not going to remove JamesA from his posistion... How far is this going to get other than ITV trash ?
If its the Lewis stuff thats bothering them, perhaps Mr Steve Ryder would be a better candidate.
And it us 'we' who do not think he is suited to the job, but others may do. I personally no longer have a problem with him...
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
that petition has been around for a long time, it will change nothing unfortunetly.
chet Wrote:
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> If its the Lewis stuff thats bothering them,
> perhaps Mr Steve Ryder would be a better
> candidate.
It's not up to Steve Rider what gets covered. It's probably not up to James Allen what he commentates on either (unless it's obvious, sitting in front of him, on fire). It doesn't make him any more competent though - he's still cringe worthily awful at his job, no matter what he's told to say/discuss/promote.
That said, I have to say I feel these online petitions are getting a bit silly - there's a petition from everyone for everything. Silly petitions (and this isn't particularly one of them) simply devalue any of some note. The effectiveness of worthy petitions are just diluted by some of the purely idiotic ones. We've been discussing the merits of online petitions for a good few years now, and even 5 years ago, when they were relatively novel, and thus had more chance of gaining momentum and publicity, they were barely successful. Now that you can choose to have a chance to speak against the amount of shine on new spoons, there's very little chance of any being useful. I think the only moderately popular one that gained any success at all recently has been the Mars one this month against them using animal rennet in their products.
ITV should know how we feel about James Allen by now - if they don't, then a petition is unlikely to open their eyes any. They're also not about to drop a guy when what we think is the worst piece of audio on TV in years (Button winning in Hungary) has just been part of winning ITV an award.
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mikef1 Wrote:
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> Stop the Cock!
>
> [www.sniffpetrol.com]
Been there, got the T-shirt.
//edit2: I've signed it anyway for what it's worth.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2007 06:07PM by gav.
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> If its the Lewis stuff thats bothering them,
> perhaps Mr Steve Ryder would be a better
> candidate.
It's not up to Steve Rider what gets covered. It's probably not up to James Allen what he commentates on either (unless it's obvious, sitting in front of him, on fire). It doesn't make him any more competent though - he's still cringe worthily awful at his job, no matter what he's told to say/discuss/promote.
That said, I have to say I feel these online petitions are getting a bit silly - there's a petition from everyone for everything. Silly petitions (and this isn't particularly one of them) simply devalue any of some note. The effectiveness of worthy petitions are just diluted by some of the purely idiotic ones. We've been discussing the merits of online petitions for a good few years now, and even 5 years ago, when they were relatively novel, and thus had more chance of gaining momentum and publicity, they were barely successful. Now that you can choose to have a chance to speak against the amount of shine on new spoons, there's very little chance of any being useful. I think the only moderately popular one that gained any success at all recently has been the Mars one this month against them using animal rennet in their products.
ITV should know how we feel about James Allen by now - if they don't, then a petition is unlikely to open their eyes any. They're also not about to drop a guy when what we think is the worst piece of audio on TV in years (Button winning in Hungary) has just been part of winning ITV an award.
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mikef1 Wrote:
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> Stop the Cock!
>
> [www.sniffpetrol.com]
Been there, got the T-shirt.
//edit2: I've signed it anyway for what it's worth.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2007 06:07PM by gav.
I like the guy, I cannot see why people are getting so wound up...
It is better to have someone genuinely passopate about F1 than the likes of Steve Ryder, who although good, is VERY generic. Look at his bland large range of interests.
Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it
It is better to have someone genuinely passopate about F1 than the likes of Steve Ryder, who although good, is VERY generic. Look at his bland large range of interests.
One of the things that really got me wound up today was the feature with Hakkinen driving that taxi.
I got all excited thinking Louise was going to ask him what sort of things he's up to these days, about his McLaren test during the winter and about the DTM.
But no, all Louise asked Hakkinen about was Hamilton's crash in practice, and that was it! What the other drivers past and present, think about being asked about lewis lewis lewis every five seconds by a member of the ITV team god only knows.
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I got all excited thinking Louise was going to ask him what sort of things he's up to these days, about his McLaren test during the winter and about the DTM.
But no, all Louise asked Hakkinen about was Hamilton's crash in practice, and that was it! What the other drivers past and present, think about being asked about lewis lewis lewis every five seconds by a member of the ITV team god only knows.
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there's a petition about the amount of shine on new spoons? 
i need the link desperately, please.
oh and the topic if this thread could be the name of James' new business if he ever leaves commentating and starts a removal company.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2007 08:52PM by Muks_C.
i need the link desperately, please.
oh and the topic if this thread could be the name of James' new business if he ever leaves commentating and starts a removal company.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2007 08:52PM by Muks_C.
i think he'd be better at selling moon shine LOL
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ITV should know how we feel about James Allen by now - if they don't, then a petition is unlikely to open their eyes any. They're also not about to drop a guy when what we think is the worst piece of audio on TV in years (Button winning in Hungary) has just been part of winning ITV an award.
Im not sure how the voting is done for such awards but to me that says people who dislike James are probably a minority over the whole public who watch ITV's coverage.
And what i got from the petition was the stuff about James talking about Lewis, but does not Steve do it worse?
I have not seen a commentry team current better than Martin and James. That doesnt include anyone before them... I mean on English speaking TV
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
sadly i've come to think that unless we get muzza back there isn't anyone who can do the job better than the cock :|
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mikef1 Wrote:
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> danm Wrote:
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> > I like the guy, I cannot see why people are
> > getting so wound up...
> >
> > It is better to have someone genuinely
> passopate
> > about F1 than the likes of Steve Ryder, who
> > although good, is VERY generic. Look at his
> bland
> > large range of interests.
>
>
> Steve Ryder is a presenter, not a commentator.
> Therefore he doesn't need to have so passionate.
> Bland large range of interests?! You mean
> football?
Allen is bearable, but I guess this stems from the fortunate ones here, who were fortunate to be fans, when Murray Walker was in the box. We were truly spoiled during his time. Steve Rider is F1 through and through I feel and has been around F1 paddocks since the late 1980's, unlike his predecessor, 'Grim' Rosenthal, who's real passion is boxing.
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> danm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I like the guy, I cannot see why people are
> > getting so wound up...
> >
> > It is better to have someone genuinely
> passopate
> > about F1 than the likes of Steve Ryder, who
> > although good, is VERY generic. Look at his
> bland
> > large range of interests.
>
>
> Steve Ryder is a presenter, not a commentator.
> Therefore he doesn't need to have so passionate.
> Bland large range of interests?! You mean
> football?
Allen is bearable, but I guess this stems from the fortunate ones here, who were fortunate to be fans, when Murray Walker was in the box. We were truly spoiled during his time. Steve Rider is F1 through and through I feel and has been around F1 paddocks since the late 1980's, unlike his predecessor, 'Grim' Rosenthal, who's real passion is boxing.
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mikef1 Wrote:
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> danm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I like the guy, I cannot see why people are
> > getting so wound up...
> >
> > It is better to have someone genuinely
> passopate
> > about F1 than the likes of Steve Ryder, who
> > although good, is VERY generic. Look at his
> bland
> > large range of interests.
>
>
> Steve Ryder is a presenter, not a commentator.
> Therefore he doesn't need to have so passionate.
> Bland large range of interests?! You mean
> football?
Oh no i know he is just a presenter, but generally talking about presenting and commentating to the public, Steve Ryder also does talking and intros over football, cricket, horse racing, tennis loads of stuff and with F1 he doesnt portray enthusism as James Allen does, as though F1 is just another to a list of chores to introduce to us.
I think its a totally wrong angle I have come into this thread, so lets leave my point for another time!
Concentrate on Allen, sorry!
Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it
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> danm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I like the guy, I cannot see why people are
> > getting so wound up...
> >
> > It is better to have someone genuinely
> passopate
> > about F1 than the likes of Steve Ryder, who
> > although good, is VERY generic. Look at his
> bland
> > large range of interests.
>
>
> Steve Ryder is a presenter, not a commentator.
> Therefore he doesn't need to have so passionate.
> Bland large range of interests?! You mean
> football?
Oh no i know he is just a presenter, but generally talking about presenting and commentating to the public, Steve Ryder also does talking and intros over football, cricket, horse racing, tennis loads of stuff and with F1 he doesnt portray enthusism as James Allen does, as though F1 is just another to a list of chores to introduce to us.
I think its a totally wrong angle I have come into this thread, so lets leave my point for another time!
Concentrate on Allen, sorry!
Steve Rider is an absolute F1 fan - he presented BBC's coverage of F1, held the broadcast together at Imola 94, presented BTCC also, and went to ITV solely to do the F1 coverage, leaving the BBC who offered him a wider sports role. Granted he has done some of the football since then, but most presenters get pooled during major tournaments etc.
He is a much better presenter than Rosenthal, who admitted that he didnt follow F1 before 97, and it showed IMO.
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He is a much better presenter than Rosenthal, who admitted that he didnt follow F1 before 97, and it showed IMO.
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I must be the only person who really does not mind JA. If he annoyed me as much as he annoys others i would mute the tv and make brumbrum noises with my mouth.
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