Honda to become formidable/unlikable?

I get the impression you think every Brazilian driver is a new Senna...

And three things is all you can think of why you hate Schumacher? Senna wasn't the sweetest boy ever either...

But that's quite another story.

Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> so that senna took prost out in the title battle in 1990 (?) isnt so
> worse, and senna used teamorders to, so your not a fan of senna
> anymore
>
> ......................................................................
> ....................................
> Greetings from Holland
>

1. 1990 was a payback for 1989, he had good reasons to do it (ie Ballestre)
2. he never used team orders to win a race, never needed to ask Berger to let him pass, he always did it by himself

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

you know in the time at mclaren senna almost get all engineers and prost much less then senna? how you wanna descripe that? and payback or not its wrong, did you saw villeneuve after 97 taking schum out? or did hill?

Nickv Wrote:
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> I get the impression you think every Brazilian driver is a new
> Senna...
>
> And three things is all you can think of why you hate Schumacher?
> Senna wasn't the sweetest boy ever either...
>
> But that's quite another story.
>
>
> Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your story!

Dude, we dont expect a new Senna. Some of my friends yes, but not me. Like in Soccer, we dont expect a new Pele in Brazil squad because Pele was unique. The same applies to Senna. We just want another F1 hero, he dont need to be better or equal to Senna, he just need to deliver some good sundays watching F1 like Senna did.

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

That's what Barrichello did. He is a decent driver. He was just overshadowed by MS, because MS was so good.

Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> you know in the time at mclaren senna almost get all engineers and
> prost much less then senna? how you wanna descripe that? and payback
> or not its wrong, did you saw villeneuve after 97 taking schum out? or
> did hill?
>
> ......................................................................
> ....................................
> Greetings from Holland
>

Team orders is shouting to a teammate on radio to let him pass (ie. Austria 2002). What you said had nothing to do with this.

Oh, c'mon, Villeneuve won it in 97, so he didnt had any reason to do it with MS. Hill didnt had Ballestre on your back helping his rival - looks familiar, heh? yeah, Alonso-FIA-MS)

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

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> That's what Barrichello did. He is a decent driver. He was just
> overshadowed by MS, because MS was so good.
>
>
> Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your story!


180 millions of brazilians dont agree with you

He wasnt overshadowed by MS, he let him overshadow him. Rubens showed at Austria 2002 and Silverstone (cant remember the year) that he had pace to catch MS but Ferrari didnt let him do that with their favorite boy. Massa is proof of that theory.

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

Senna schreef:
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> Nickv Wrote:
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> -----
> > That's what Barrichello did. He is a decent driver. He was just
> > overshadowed by MS, because MS was so good.
> >
> >
> > Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your story!
>
>
> 180 millions of brazilians dont agree with you
>
> He wasnt overshadowed by MS, he let him overshadow him. Rubens showed
> at Austria 2002 and Silverstone (cant remember the year) that he had
> pace to catch MS but Ferrari didnt let him do that with their favorite
> boy. Massa is proof of that theory.
>
>
>


180 million? i bet 90 million of them lives in the bush and doesnt even know what a f1 car is:P

Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> Senna schreef:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nickv Wrote:
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > That's what Barrichello did. He is a decent driver. He
> was just
> > > overshadowed by MS, because MS was so good.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your
> story!
> >
> >
> > 180 millions of brazilians dont agree with you
> >
> > He wasnt overshadowed by MS, he let him overshadow him. Rubens
> showed
> > at Austria 2002 and Silverstone (cant remember the year) that he
> had
> > pace to catch MS but Ferrari didnt let him do that with their
> favorite
> > boy. Massa is proof of that theory.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 180 million? i bet 90 million of them lives in the bush and doesnt
> even know what a f1 car is:P
>
> ......................................................................
> ....................................
> Greetings from Holland
>

LOL :P Its just because our president is a noob, lots of corruption is going on in our government and when asked about it he just says "I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT" and he thinks that we'll believe on it, with a decent president we could take them out of the bush

But still have other 90 million that dont agree with Nick

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2006 05:33PM by Senna.

Senna schreef:
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> Nickv Wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's what Barrichello did. He is a decent driver. He was just
> > overshadowed by MS, because MS was so good.
> >
> >
> > Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your story!
>
>
> 180 millions of brazilians dont agree with you
>
> He wasnt overshadowed by MS, he let him overshadow him. Rubens showed
> at Austria 2002 and Silverstone (cant remember the year) that he had
> pace to catch MS but Ferrari didnt let him do that with their favorite
> boy. Massa is proof of that theory.
>
>
>

And Irvine is a proof of that theory too. MS was clearly number one and the drivers who drove alongside him were clearly second. Ferrari will denie it, but it's true. But that doesn't make Barrichello a shitty driver. And maybe those 90 million Brazilians should buy some glasses, because if you can't see that Barrichello was a fairly decent driver, you need some.

Nickv Wrote:
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> Senna schreef:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nickv Wrote:
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > That's what Barrichello did. He is a decent driver. He
> was just
> > > overshadowed by MS, because MS was so good.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your
> story!
> >
> >
> > 180 millions of brazilians dont agree with you
> >
> > He wasnt overshadowed by MS, he let him overshadow him. Rubens
> showed
> > at Austria 2002 and Silverstone (cant remember the year) that he
> had
> > pace to catch MS but Ferrari didnt let him do that with their
> favorite
> > boy. Massa is proof of that theory.
> >
> >
> >
>
> And Irvine is a proof of that theory too. MS was clearly number one
> and the drivers who drove alongside him were clearly second. Ferrari
> will denie it, but it's true. But that doesn't make Barrichello a
> shitty driver. And maybe those 90 million Brazilians should buy some
> glasses, because if you can't see that Barrichello was a fairly decent
> driver, you need some.
>
>
> Nickv is your WGP/W300 press release service! PM your story!


My point wasnt to say that he isnt a decent driver. I dont like him because he's passive and accepted easily what happened with him at Ferrari.

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

"you know in the time at mclaren senna almost get all engineers and prost much less then senna? how you wanna descripe that?"

He can't because it's not true.

Senna Wrote:
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> chet Wrote:
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> > Oh dear ...
> > hmm.
> > i think the problem has come with people who disagree with the
> way
> > Senna is expressing his opinion, thas their problem isnt it?? the
> ONLY
> > problem i see here is the swearing ie shitmacher but no-one has
> > mentioned that yet.
> >
> >
>
> Exactly. As a brazilian, I am more passionate, but I dont have a
> problem to say what I think, regardless of what other people would
> think.
>
>
>

Biggest amount of @#$%& i have seen posted in my life.
The fact you are latino doesnt make you more passionate than anyone. Utter bullshit.
I read your posts Senna and sometimes wonder on your mental capacity.
You post like a 10yr old having a tantrum.
The day you started posting on Schumacher and other in this forums was the day it turned useless in regards to discussion.

"you know in the time at mclaren senna almost get all Honda engineers to suit his driving style and prost much less then senna? how you wanna descripe that?"

Fixed.

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Mini Maestro Wrote:
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> Senna Wrote:
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> -----
> > chet Wrote:
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Oh dear ...
> > > hmm.
> > > i think the problem has come with people who disagree
> with the
> > way
> > > Senna is expressing his opinion, thas their problem isnt
> it?? the
> > ONLY
> > > problem i see here is the swearing ie shitmacher but
> no-one has
> > > mentioned that yet.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Exactly. As a brazilian, I am more passionate, but I dont have a
> > problem to say what I think, regardless of what other people
> would
> > think.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Biggest amount of @#$%& i have seen posted in my life.
> The fact you are latino doesnt make you more passionate than anyone.
> Utter bullshit.
> I read your posts Senna and sometimes wonder on your mental capacity.
> You post like a 10yr old having a tantrum.
> The day you started posting on Schumacher and other in this forums was
> the day it turned useless in regards to discussion.
>
>
>
>
>

[IRONIC MODE ON]
Oh, well, just another MS fanboy having a go at me, but thank you for adding your share of $#%#$##@ here, you are always welcome in this thread and have a nice day.
[/IRONIC MODE OFF]

>>>> Like I said to other guy in page 2 or 3, its you who is posting like a 10 yr old boy, because insulting other forum members is an action expected from a 10 yr old boy. Remember it - I have never insulted you

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

He is not an MS fanboy.

Pay attention.

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But just because I dislike Rubens and MS it doesnt give to you and others the right to have a go at me. I am not obliged to respect both or like them. Basically what I said earlier was "I dont like Rubens because he accepted what Ferrari did with him, thats why I want him out of Honda" simply as that. Why it is hard to understand?

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2006 06:33PM by Senna.

tripleM Wrote:
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> He is not an MS fanboy.
>
> Pay attention.
>
>
>
> Bonzo!

hes a bit slow on the uptake i guess.
go on arguing Senna. the drivel that you post surely entertains many.

I'll be the first brazillian then to say that Rubens is a very good driver. He may not take what needs to be a champion, but he's still very good. Want a good example?







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2006 08:15PM by Joe_Satriani.

Joe_Satriani Wrote:
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> I'll be the first brazillian then to say that Rubens is not a very
> good driver. He may not take what needs to be a champion, but he's
> still very good. Want a good example?
>
>
>
>


Thats what I said. He doesnt have what takes to be a champion.

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."