Montoya who?

Seems JPM had a shitty day. Still don't understand what the hype about him is? If Schumi could of passed him today early, he would of won the race cause MS was so much faster than everyone else. Coulthard drove prefect but he had no traffic in front of him.

Even MS said he had a barrel of laughs watching JPM drive.



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i don't understand the meaning of this post?

JPM retired with a engine problem, you say that MS was fastest but he never looked liked taking either JPM or DC

and if he was so much faster than everyone else why was'nt he pole today?


what is laughable is that MS got beat fair and square today and all you can come up with is hypothetical theorys towards a MS victory






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even though i am an ms fan,i did think dc drove an excellent race,i did think his engine was going to go at mid distance with it giving out smoke signals,but his car held together and drove a great race.
as for montoya,
yes good in qualifying but did start to drop away,and dc pulled out a gap,as for ms,6 more point over jpm don't think he'll be too dissapointed.overall it was good to watch right up to the end.

What are you talking about?? Montoya was as fast as MS before he had his problem. And he retired through an engine failure, you muppet.

JPM had a shitty day? I don't see how you think this and that MS didn't as Montoya would have beaten schumacher, just accept that he was beaten for once and don't be so pathetic

I'd say Montoya was slower than Michael, because Michael was all over him. However, the Williams wasn't so great in race trim, was it? Ralf got an easy third, but couldn't match Michael or David. Or even Juan.

And Juan's pole lap was awesome. 'Nuff said.

the Williams wasn't so great in race trim, was it? Ralf got an easy third, but couldn't match Michael or David. Or even Juan.



from what i saw could it be ralf knew he was'nt going to be a front runner and instead opted to play the waiting game and see how the race panned out?

he adopted the same philosophy at hockenheim last year and it paid dividends

also ralfs pace dropped off dramatically after JPM's engine failure, and you can bet your life that the team were on the radio straight away to tell him to ease off, to secure a few points rather than push for position and perhaps blow the engine


i was'nt impressed at all about ralf today, MS said that ralf was his main title rival this year and did'nt consider JPM a threat, but until JPM's retirement he was second in the championship.

ralf opted to wait and see how the race panned out, and it earned him a podium place.


and do you really in your heart of hearts expect ralf to push his sibling?

we've seen this before when ralf has been behind his brother and kept his distance, if it were mika, DC, or JPM they'd be pressurising him all the way

ralf only races against MS when he's in front, not behind


with this mindset from ralf perhaps his seat at williams would be better used by a driver prepared to actually race & battle






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You guys are to clouded into thinking that JPM is F1 material. JPM sucked today. MS WAS all over him. Did you read the press release? MS said he had a laugh watching JPM clip walls and jump curbs.

The only reason MS came in 2nd was cause JPM held him up or else he woujld of passed DC while he pitted. DC drove a great race but if MS was in 2nd from the start, I'm 100% sure MS would of won.

Everyone thinks JPM is the greatest driver since Senna, well why doens't he frigin prove it? Cause he's not the greatest driver. He's good, but from from great.



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Wanker.

One question for you CDN_merlin. Could MS overtake him? Actually I'll re phrase that. DID MS overtake him?


NO.

JPM's qualifying lap shows his speed. If that doesnt prove it, I don't know what does. Anyway, the williams werent that good in the race. I think your being way too harsh on a guy driving a tough track for only his second time. Mark my words, he'll 'prove himself' smacking down your godlike Schumacher.


Chris J


btw are you annoyed cos he held MS up?



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CDN_merlin, wtf are you talking about?

Well we ALL know the williams aint as good as the ferrari, but JPM was miles faster than Ralf. You really should be moaning at Ralf if you feel you have to moan about someone

In a worse car, at only his second time at Monaco, he beat the 'master of monaco' (as alot of MS like to think of him) by quite a bit

yreah yeah, traffic is your excuse for that (yeah right, bulls**t)

"MS said he had a laugh watching JPM clip walls and jump curbs."

well it didnt damage the car so is it acceptable? Doesnt this mean hes exciting to watch? Did it keep him ahead? Yes, so didt it work? Yes!

"Everyone thinks JPM is the greatest driver since Senna"

who has said that?




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DC drove brilliantly yesterday, I was very impressed. I was expected something a bit more from Montoya though, I have to say. Really, he should have been quicker than Coulthard and hounding him all the time he was in the running. Instead, DC kept a decent gap between him and the Williams, and JPM had to concentrate on the Ferrari in his mirrors.

Then it was Coulthard's turn, and he with stood the pressure that Schumi applied fantastically well, and thoroughly deserved a great victory. And what on earth does Raikkonen have to do to get a result? I feel really sorry for him at the moment, he deserves more than a single podium. I never really thought I'd say this, but I'd like to see McLaren in the fight more often, because despite the fact it's very hard to pass at Monaco, that was a really exciting race from lights to flag.

And I think Fisichella, Frentzen and Webber deserve a mention also, fantastic drives from all of them. And if Trulli keeps his 4th place, congratulations to him too.




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I think its quite clear that CDN_merliin doesn't know what he's talking about and is unable to have a sensible conversation without licking his 'gods' ass. he's the reason is can't stand most schumacher fans, although some (like alex) are well informed and are able to have a good debate without resorting to arse kissing there are far to many who just blindly follow 'his greatness' no matter what he does. and schumacher didn't say he was laughing at JPM (not from what i've heard) he said it was interesting watching JPM drive but not so much DC because he was driving much more cleanly. schumacher is himself a very ragged driver because he always drives on the limit (not so much the last few years because he's had the best car) so I doubt he would laugh at him. and if he did it just proves that he's as arrogant as I think he is.

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MS: Not really, because it was quite entertaining to watch Juan. He was clipping a few barriers, locking up, going sideways. He was overdriving a bit. It was actually sometimes I thought he would be close to that he is going to hit something and if I was staying too close it could be a problem, so he didn't, he kept his concentration together, but we were both not fast enough to keep up with David.




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I am not blinded by MS, I'm just trying to prove that JPM is not the greatest driver a lot of people think he is. I don't know how many times I've been argued that MS is all crap on here and that JPM is so much better. A few races this year JPM was good in qualifying yet he sucked in the race.

Alex, thanks for quoting that phrase from MS, no he didn't say he was laughing but I can garauntee he was. Just look at how he said it.

JPM thinks he's king @!#$ "I'm not scared of MS, I'll pass him when and where I want to", he proved this in Brazil last year and he proved how dangerous he could be in Austria of last year.

I wish people would stop trying to prove how great JPM is when he is not great at all. MS is great. Check his stats. The facts don't lie.



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I wish people would stop trying to prove how great JPM is when he is not great at all. MS is great. Check his stats. The facts don't lie

Give Montoya a break, he's only in his second season. I can't remember Schumacher being so great in his first few seasons. On occasion yes, just as it is the case with Montoya right now. You have to understand that there from a different generation.

As for the greatness of MS, we've discussed it. A lot of people think his records are highly overrated because of his position in the teams he drove for and the people around him.

MS won the title after 2 yrs. From my history that I looked up, he started in 92 and won in 94, 95, then in 2000 and 2001.



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dc pulled out a 5 second lead before montoya had his engine problem,thats why ferrari brought ms in so he didn't get stuck behind him for even longer.

if he was having such a great race why did he allow a five second gap to develop,yes ms didn't overtake dc,neither did montoya he had a crap start,

dc had a good race and deserved his win

Mark, totally agree. But the that people failed to mention is MS caught DC fast. The unfortunate part is that it's impossible to over take in Monaco. so MS had no chance of winning. Monaco is decided in qualifing and who ever is in the lead after corner #1.



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DC had a loss of engine power after the smoke started coming out, if he hadn't he might have been faster at the end, plus he knew that he was in control and that MS couldn't get past him so he didn't need to push