ok i stand corrected on benetton having 0 wins in 96.but it surely is a point that no anti schumi is answering,9 wins for michael in benetton renault,4 for hill in williams renault in 1995,then as soon as michael leaves benetton who still have the same engine as williams and even the anti schumis state that it wasn't a bad car,how come when he leaves the next season they win no races, surely michael makes a massive difference,and putting all the focus on one driver as benetton did reaped rewards.
no ms fan is saying they agreed with sundays actions,the gap michael had to montoya didn't justify it,and we are not disagreing about rubens,he has driven very well this year no ms fan is saying otherwise.the car you refer to that ms stole was the spare car,ms has the spare car for himself so he can't steal his own car,even in warm up he'll use both and it's not unknown for him to switch to it for a race,
even though he used the spare in barcelona,because of problems with his race car,it still won the race,so it doesn't matter what car ms or rubens used,it would still of won the race.
and yes michael has copied rubens set up,so what he even used irvines the odd occasion,i don't have a problem with it or think he is any less a driver for doing it,austria seemed to suit rubens so michael copied his setup.
the reason the mclarens were used in jerez was because jacques was unsure of irvine,he couldn't predict what he would do,whether he would try and take him out,as we know michael was the one.
ron dennis and frank williams had an agreement they would keep irvine behind them,if you remember irvine chopped jacques in the pit lane,
the race was manipulated to the benefit of williams and mclaren.
i've heard on here when other drivers have let team mates through it was sportsmanship,but where do you draw the line,dc being asked to move over in jerez wasn't sportsmanship it was team orders,if the australia 98 was sportsmanship why was dc told to move over,and to show his frustration he done it on the main straight.
can you honestly say if you were ferrari bosses in sepang in 99 with irvine going for the championship, that you wouldn't of asked ms to move over,which he did twice for eddie,and the same at hockenheim asking ms replacement mika salo who was leading the race to move over,of course you would,people would expect you to,its still fixing a result,
just remember those 2 races where ms and mika salo have moved over for irvine,and you should see it's not just a schumacher thing and unfair to blame him,it's ferrari so there is no need to keep blaming this one on michael.
all replies welcome,and try and answer for the third time why benetton didn't win a single race without ms in a car that was the current constructers champions
hope it's readable and i apologise in advance for going on a bit