i am suprised that the ms alonso incident warranted a thread, i saw it at the time and thought no more of it.but you can rely on the anti schumi brigade to make something out of it. the only nasty incident of the weekend was jv having a swipe at button and i'm sure if it had been ms you'd be moaning about that as well.is this the same alonso that ignores yellow flags and puts others inby Mark - F1
considering michaels world championship was at stake he had every reason to be pissed off,dc admitted he could of killed him. considering the previous posts we have had on this incident with you all convinced dc had moved off the racing line and hadn't backed off and blamed ms for causing the incident.it seems only dc admitting his guilt has changed your mind,seeing the incident for yourselfby Mark - F1
ive downloaded and succesfully installed the mod or so i thought,but when i launch gp4 i still get the 2001 season,any ideas would be appreciatedby Mark - Grand Prix 4
it's what we knew all along,and all the schumi haters laying the blame at michael.well clearly he says he lifted and that he was still on the racing line. so michael accusing dc of trying to kill on reading the piece seems michael was right,pity it took dc so long to realise his error. i'd like to hear what all the ms haters think as most them blame him for everything even this one whiby Mark - F1
i think you'll find he can get assistance as the rules were changed,if you'd bothered to watch the whole race before posting you would of heard sam michael confirm this.by Mark - F1
you really are stupid.the pit lane which he went down on the last lap is b4 the flag. other point the penalty was invalid other point with an invalid penalty would any other team surrender the lead it was on the last lap,that lap they were entitled to bring him in and they did. ms didnt chaet ferrari didnt chaet doesnt the fact that the marshalls lost their license get through to you,ms didnt paby Mark - F1
i thought everyone knew mclaren made him an offer,it was well documented. in the paddock in argentina april 98he had a public discussion with haug and ron dennis and listened to ther offer but chose ferrari instead. against the deal was the fact that mclaren allwoed no personal sponsorship deals and ms had them with nike and dekra and the fact that mclaren kept its drivers under strict control.by Mark - F1
they have 3 laps 2 call ms in,it is not their fault 1 of them is the last lap,they have called ms within the 3 lap limit,because of balls up over time issuing penalty it was invalid,try and understand that,it isn't difficult ferrar i have replied 2 the penalty within the required time even though it was invalidby Mark - F1
he took it on the last lap so it was during the race.he had 3 laps to come in from when the penalty was issued and he came in on the 3rd.besides the marshalls issued the penalty after the obligatory 25 minutes of the offence occuring,the stewards also failed to post the details on the official timing screens which made it invalid. ms and ferrari did all they could,the penalty was issued and it waby Mark - F1
and dozy damon twice taking michael off,i'm sure if it had been the other way around you'd all be calling ms a cheatby Mark - F1
rubbish if 2 drivers have the same set up and ms is quicker on his team mates data what is ur point,why isn't his team mate faster on his own set up.by Mark - F1
dc had the best car,98 99 yet in 98 he still finished behind ms,his problem is he can win the odd race but cant put a champonship together,even after mika his team mate still has the advantage over himby Mark - F1
the fact that ms is faster on his team mates data than they r should answer ur point,the fact that they both have the same set up and ms is faster.by Mark - F1
i doubt he was suffering as ms took the piss out of montoya all season,like ms lapping montoya at hungary.to see montoya suffering at schumachers hands.montoya couldnt put a championship together if he tried,kimi in last years mclaren has wupped his assby Mark - F1
if it was that comfortable why did it go to the last raceby Mark - F1
mikas first win was easy as it was gifted to him,then again so was his secondby Mark - F1
jerez is definatly a stain on michaels career and as an ms fan i was dissapointed with what he attempted to do that day,in fairness i don't think he was really punished by the sport,a ban would only of kept spectators away and a financial penalty would hardly affect ms or ferrari. when michaels career is over and evaluated people all over the world will always remember the word jerez,even iby Mark - F1
you say the fuel is out of the teams hands,so why mention benetton and williams being disqualified.if ferrari as you alledge cheated in canada 94 surely the car would of been disqualified,and you can't point to ms on this one as he wasn't their. i thought mclaren won 3 races in 97 though one they colluded with williams to win.ferrari didn't get the 3rd pedal banned. the stewards ofby Mark - F1
im afraid you do,there have been that many threads re-94 benetton being illegal but when we ask for proof there doesn't seem to be any.im afraid a guess that because they had it they must of used it isn't enough.it seems because it's ms it has to be true. if a mclaren mechanic switched to ferrari and claimed that mika had illegal software you would dismiss it.yet with ms you all beby Mark - F1
are we still going by hearsay that schumachers 94 car was elligal,if you are going to make a statement that it is illegal can you back it up with proof. none of this what a mechanic said to frank stuff.f1 is full of rumours but when we ask for proof there seems to be none.by Mark - F1
ms didnt have the best car 94/95,he had a good car but made excellent use of it,although they both had the renault engine for 95 where as benetton were a one man team,williams didn't have any team orders so damon was having to fight with his team mate as well as ms.i'm sure damon would of wanted dc to have backed up his championship rather than fight him it just shows williams were moreby Mark - F1
for a start we don't know benetton had used traction control in 94.we know that it was on the car but they found that removing the software corupted other software on the car and decided to leave it in place but disable it. i think to say we know it was used is wrong,schumachers car got checked as much as anyone elses during 94 and the checks are done by marshalls at the individual race as iby Mark - F1
and how many times has rb moved over he knows as much about f1 as he does about acting and hes crap at thatby Mark - F1
and mclaren never conspire with other teams to affect the result,two teams conspiring a finish between them is far worse than one team switching its drivers,mclaren r cheats because they conspired with williams to defraud the public of the rightful winnerby Mark - F1
yeah, almost as funny as mclaren never employ team ordersby Mark - F1
i agree with some points ls but not all,yes ms did ram jv off at jerev and take out hill in 94,but by not allowing the mclarens to race at certain stages of the race, such as when frentzen found himself in the lead with the mclarens p1 and p2,and frentzen slowing the field by up to two seconds a a lap to allow jv to catch ms up still amounts to mclaren not allowing their drivers to race,both ms aby Mark - F1
thats fine,all i heard regarding this was max mosley saying before the race he wanted no funny business and that he wanted the race won on the track and not ending up in the gravel trap,i don't think he meant in any way that other cars such as mclaren couldn't race to there potential,i believe that if mika and dc where fast at any point in the race then they could of overtook whoever waby Mark - F1
i will dispute this ellis,mika went passed dc a few laps from the end and it was after ms steered into jv not beforeby Mark - F1
thats a new one, can't imagine them saying any such thing i take it you have evidence of this. the only thing that was obvious was that the mclarens kept out of jv's way in exchange for a one-two finish.by Mark - F1
the jerez 97 result was fixed between williams and mclaren,how often where members of mclaren and williams team in the others garage,the two mclarens where faster the the williams but made no attempt to overtake during the race. imagine if ferrari had conspired with another team to achieve a win,as usual dc was ordered over.if jv was worried about damage to his car why was it the last lap he letby Mark - F1