so netKar Pro is finally out...

For anyone interested there is a public beta available at [www.netkar-pro.com] of the new 1.1 version

Downloaded it (Im a big fan of NKP even if Im only with the minority ) and have to say other than a few beta bugs obviously the cars/tyre model feel even better than before and the interference is going in the right direction!

The first beta release has had 2 updates already which is postitive.

The next beta release will include the Fiat 500 Abarth and a new track with 15 diffrent layout's too!

Also for this month only you can purchase NKP for only 19.90EUR, which I think is a bargain.

Current NKP user's will not need to pay for the new V1.1 release, just copy over your driver/licence folder and controller config.

The Osella & Hill Climb is planned for V1.2 AFAIK.

Does it actually work yet? Does it have AI? Does it have net code which works? Does it have people playing it that would actually warrant paying for it?

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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Does it actually work yet? Does it have AI? Does
> it have net code which works? Does it have people
> playing it that would actually warrant paying for
> it?

It works fine on my machine (but then again it always has) and the few people that have had problems with the game solved it by downloading the latest DirectX package and 3.5net framework.

Everything in game appears to work fine. It doesn't have AI but there is a ghostcar config so maybe we will see that soon?

Netcode appears to be better, especially the crash detection. I have been wheel to wheel online in this version, where as in previous versions your suspension would just break for no reason so thats a big positive. Haven't had any major online bugs or lag, although a fair share of bad servers have played their part before. A well setup server config seems to be the trick, V1.1 seems to be less temperamental eg you dont have to get the bandwith settings etc exactly perfect for it not to have a fit.

Online appears to be picking up, there have been some near full servers on there.

Tbh best thing to do is download the Beta and give it a go Dave, 99% of people are racing the FF1600 atm anyway

It works fine on my machine (but then again it always has) and the few people that have had problems with the game solved it by downloading the latest DirectX package and 3.5net framework.

I mean does it have a use now? I'm not into hot lapping.

It doesn't have AI but there is a ghostcar config so maybe we will see that soon?

Ghost car and AI are completely different though. I don't think we'll see AI. It is 3.5 years since this game was released now and it doesn't seem to have added any significant features.

Online appears to be picking up, there have been some near full servers on there.

Have been (past tense) some (not lots) near full (not full) doesn't really cut it for me. I'll pass.

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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> I mean does it have a use now? I'm not into hot
> lapping.

I have been using it online yes but as your iRacing 12 people online in a race probably wont cut it for you

> Ghost car and AI are completely different though.
> I don't think we'll see AI. It is 3.5 years since
> this game was released now and it doesn't seem to
> have added any significant features.

True. I don't think there will be AI either tbh, Kunos has always said it's an online sim though.


> Have been (past tense) some (not lots) near full
> (not full) doesn't really cut it for me. I'll
> pass.

Lmao Fair play there, time will tell I suppose if people will stay and have regular full servers.

How do you make the force feedback so it doesn't try to destroy your wheel? What settings do you recommend?

Admittedly I have only a momo racing and not a g25 or anything of such quality though.

Also, when setting up the controls does it actually mean to steer to exactly 90 degrees? Or does it want you to steer to full lock?

H E L L O

Daniel Knott Wrote:
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> How do you make the force feedback so it doesn't
> try to destroy your wheel? What settings do you
> recommend?
>
> Admittedly I have only a momo racing and not a g25
> or anything of such quality though.
>
> Also, when setting up the controls does it
> actually mean to steer to exactly 90 degrees? Or
> does it want you to steer to full lock?

What FFB settings are you running in NKP & in the Control Panel Controller settings mate?

It mean's steer to 90 degrees, don't worry about getting it perfect though there is some give and take. It's just how NKP determines how much lock you are running on the wheel

My settings for my wheel are:

Global Settings:

Force Feedback settings:

Overall effects strength: 99%
Spring effect strength: 0%
Damper effect strength: 2%

Enable centring spring in ff games: true
centring spring strength: 0%


I don't really know what most of this means.


For netkar:

Default ff settings are:

FF strength: 200
Damper strength: 0
friction strength: 0


Don't really know what these mean either :S but i changed the overall strength down to 70 and that helped a bit - however it was still rather spiky and harsh over curbs and bumps and whatever and also with damage. Also having it at 70 gave not much normal ff - it was very faint, which ruined it really.


Er yer so perhaps you could explain the magical world of ff to me.

H E L L O

So any more word on this or not for another 2 years?

Guimengo Wrote:
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> So any more word on this or not for another 2
> years?

V1.1 Beta 2 Released, which includes the Fiat 500 Abarth and new track.

[www.netkar-pro.com]

v1.1 beta 2 changelog

- Fixed driver race number not being set on driver's panel opening
- Fixed licence file not being generated
- Removed "speeding in pits" message during replays
- Added click noise for cockpit buttons
- [TO CHECK] Fixed top bar only showing flags
- Fixed top bar not switchable and appearing in full mode
- Increased the highest driver race number to 500
- Dirty visor is back
- Fixed "use beep" in chat
- Tyre vibrational modes are now damped down going through the steering wheel
- Fixed FF friction applying forces in the wrong direction
- Added "cancel" button to password message box
- Fixed replay not showing custom skin
- Moved application saved files to "My Documents"
- Fixed incorrect rounding of setup values generating different numbers when moving up/down
- Added audio mixing functionality
- Added X360 controller native support
- Fixed a potential divide by zero when pedals are not properly configured
- Added an top level dead zone for the clutch preventi the car from moving slightly with 1st and clutch down
- Fixed limited slip differential adding too much locking torques
- Fixed F1600 front tyres, not enough grip
- New formula to calculate Force Feedback contributions from caster
- Added sort functionality to server list for Name, Car, Track and Ping
- Added Race, Qualify, Practice indicator in server list
- Added color codes to server list
- Fixed video resolution list reporting the same combination more than once
- Fixed incorrect "ghost" collisions in multiplayer
- Improved car bottom/ground collision detection and response
- Fixed BACKSPACE starter button interfering with chat
- Fixed controls configuration potentially crashing the system due to different locale culture settings
- Fixed fuel consuption for the F2000
- Fixed tyre temperature going very cold on grass and sand
- Fixed key control when device lock is > steer lock
- Added antialias settings
- Added remote cars details settings
- Fixed controller panel not updating controller configuration after executing controller wizard
- Online Race panel now checks if a track is available on the client before launching the simulator
- Fixed engine sound source for 5.1 and 7.1 systems
- Added custom tracks cubemap support

What about my forcefeedback? hehehe

H E L L O

Congrats Daniel. You are the first member that has actually made me add your sig to AdBlock. I was nearly getting epillepetic.

Daniel Knott Wrote:
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> What about my forcefeedback? hehehe

These are the settings I run give them a try and see how it feels.

Force Feedback settings:

Overall effects strength: 100%
Spring effect strength: 0%
Damper effect strength: 0%

Enable centring spring in ff games: true
centring spring strength: 0%

For netkar:

Default ff settings are:

FF strength: 100
Damper strength: 0
friction strength: 0

Just tried it. Really not impressed. It runs even worse than it used to, whilst I can run rFactor and iRacing on full details. The sound is *terrible* and the menus are just bodged together to stop people complaining about the lack of menus previously.

This game just isn't worth driving for free. Paying for it is insulting, especially since it took 3.5 years to get from 1.0 to 1.1 and it is still broken.

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A long, long time ago I tried it, hated it and uninstalled it.

It drove very well the first one I tried but it was so limited... it was like a cheap iRacing thing, not worth it for me

Mind you, still better value than iracing, and certain aspects such as the damage and tyre wear have more depth. Looks nicer too. Considering the budget of it compared to iracing that is impressive. In terms of what you get it's not great but it's still better value than iracing. Also those new 500s look reasonable.
Drives a lot better if you change the setup so it's not a horribly understeery one.

H E L L O

still better value than iracing

Depends what you want to do with it. Quite frankly, it looks like crap now. The graphics engine and it's various shades of grey that it uses to do highlighting and shading dated very badly. The textures are overdone to hell to make up for the poor lighting. It still has nobody to race online, and when you do get online the net code is still crap. So in terms of value, nK Pro is the worst value of any game since it has no functional use. Sure it is cheap - but it doesn't work.

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They aren't even in the same ball park in terms of quality or accuracy.

If I'd paid money for nK Pro I'd be feeling mighty screwed right now. Get shipped a completely broken product, watch the dev bugger off with all the money. Turn up 3 years later and put out a patch which has addressed absolutely nothing at all.

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Hold on... I was just looking at iRacing... You mean people, including members here, actually, really, honestly, truthfully, pay $13 a month for a video game??

Seriously?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2009 05:08PM by madotter.

People also pay $13 for WOW. Now compared to the crap that WOW is, paying $13 for iRacing is dirt cheap.