GPG 24hrs of Toban (2hr rFactor Endurance Race)

Yeah I use one, you tried the settings I posted on VT forum?

i have to say it really felt so nice whenever i pittted for new tyres.

i especially felt it in the hairpin and slow bottom section at the start of the lap.

so are we doin this again or??

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

I don't race with a FF wheel matt so can't comment on it It could just be due to the fact that i've hardly raced rF, done several hours of testing at Daytona over the past few days.

I don't think you can compare GTP to the ZRs really though tbh.... at the end of the day a GTP car has big fat wide slick tyres, the ZRs have £2 remoulds on them Until we get the games "like for like" it's going to be difficult to judge. When there's GTP mod for rF with the Daytona Road Course, then i'll compare

matthewp Wrote:
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> Yeah I use one, you tried the settings I posted on
> VT forum?

Not yet no, but I've tried a few settings from RSC, which improved it a good bit.

It's nothing critical... it's just where I might give NR2003 90% for FF, I'd give rF 75% at the moment. It's the only real negative for me, and hardly a big one at that.

@ matthewp

Would you be so kind and post those Logitech settings here too. Would love to give them a go.

Ok lengthy post (i'm using the racing force btw, should be fine for the other logitech ffb wheels though)

Firstly in the global settings in the logitech profiler set overall strength and spring strength to 97%
Damper effect to 0%
centering spring force ticked but at 0%

Then go to the steering wheel specific settings, set sensitivity to 75% (although that one is more down to youre preference than anything)
Deadzone 2%
range 100%

The PLR and controller.ini files are both in you're rfactor->userdata->yourname folders, open them with notepad.
first of all in you're .PLR file turn off the equivelant of GPLs low speed steering hack:
Steer Ratio Speed="0.00000"
This is the force feedback section of my Controller.ini think this should cover all the settings I got from RSC

[ Force Feedback ]
FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel, 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad.
FFB Effects Level="4" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects, 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom.
FFB Gain="1.00000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0.
FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.20000" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.03500" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point).
FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB steer force average weight="0.60000" // How much weight is given to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0). Lower values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency.
FFB steer force exponent="1.00000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity.
FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction).
FFB steer force output max="5.00000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
FFB steer force grip weight="1.00000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force.
FFB steer update thresh="0.01500" // Amount of change required to update steer force/vibe (0.0 - 1.0). Lower values = steering force updated more frequently = lower frame rate.
FFB steer friction coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering friction. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
FFB steer friction saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering friction. Range: 0 - 1.0
FFB steer damper coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering damper. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
FFB steer damper saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering damper. Range: 0 - 1.0
FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.17000" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency. Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50
FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.09000" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point).
FFB throttle vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude).
FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB throttle vibe update thresh="0.08000" // Amount of change required to update throttle vibe (0.0 - 1.0)
FFB brake vibe freq mult="0.90000" // Scales actual brake rotational frequency to force feedback vibration frequency.
FFB brake vibe zero magnitude="0.10000" // Magnitude of brake vibration at 0mph (reference point).
FFB brake vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB brake vibe zero magnitude).
FFB brake vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB brake vibe update thresh="0.05000" // Amount of change required to update brake vibe (0.0 to 1.0)
FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.35000" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect.
FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.60000" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev.
FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB rumble strip pull factor="-1.50000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5.
FFB rumble strip update thresh="0.07500" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0)
FFB jolt magnitude="2.00000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.
FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[00] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[01] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[00] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[01] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[02] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[03] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[04] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[05] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[06] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Pos="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Pos="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Saturation Neg="1.00000" // DirectInput Saturation to use for spring
FFB Joy[02] Axis[07] Spring Coefficient Neg="0.00000" // DirectInput Coefficient to use for spring





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/06/2005 11:02AM by matthewp.

i had gr8 time even when i dnf.

Got to say I was surprised with the high quality of the driving, both in terms of pace and in terms of dealing with traffic. In the past in GPL and GTP when we've arranged a race just by posting on this forum and let anyone turn up its been a complete mess but there was none of that it was really clean. Maybe we should have another one sometime

Ye, and hopefully I won't get hit off at the first corner, and then one turn later there won't be a Neil sitting in the track :p

My pace wasn't too bad, and when I was going the right way I was probably about 6th or 7th fastest, but my first pitstop (on lap 1) was so long, about 10s longer than Neils, and he was faster, so it meant I had a gap of about 50s to the next person that I was faster than. Was going to be a long race...

I was really bricking it in the first start because my controller had lost all FFB so it was all floppy. I was actually asking for a restart before the warp happened, cos it would be race over for me

With FFB back though, things didn't really go to plan when I went a tad wide on the exit of the turn 1 section, bouncing off the wall and across the track. This really did screw up my car and race, but more importantly, Baz got caught up in it too Realllllllllly sorry about that, because it pretty much screwed your race up.

The car was quite @#$%& though for the race, because on new tyres a mid 46 was a stunning lap. After loosing so much time though 7th wasn't too bad of a finish. Quite annoying though I spun so much early on, yet managed to push like buggery for the last 40 mins without a mistake to close a 30 sec gap to Koop, and battle with a few other cars too.

For me, the back markers were pretty good, except in one case in the last 40 mins (wont mention names) when I got really held up for several laps. Tried flashing the lights, beeping the horn to which he beeped it back!

The blue flags are a bit dodgy though I thought. Once I had Chet behind me for position, and Rich lapping Chet. Thats when I got the blue flags, but Rich hadn't passed Chet yet so I kept on the pace, but got a stop and go because I passed too many blue flags. It seems the only option is to loose the positon and then retake it

Still, the day to night transition was great. Driving in semi light is pretty tricky though, but the way the game does shadows is simply stunning

Ye, the flags are @#$%&. I only remembered after we started, and really they need to be turned off. The blue flag men are too eager to get waving. There wasn't really much either of us could have done about that first section crash though Neil. You were there, and there was a guy to my left, so I had nowhere to go. Still, it gave me the chance to learn the track a bit, and get used to concentrating for longer spells. The fact I was chasing though meant I kept trying to push that little bit too hard.

We should do it again though, and maybe try and get a bigger grid. I know if it wasn't on a Wednesday or Thursday I might be able to get more interest in it. If we had 20-30 cars lapping round for a couple of hours I'm sure everyone would be kept busy!

would be great with that amount, although it was a pretty decent turnout as it was for a race like that.
Didnt know you got stop & gos if you pass to many blue flags, can you turn that off but have them still display the flags?

ye, they still display

just no penalties for ignoring them. so we'd have to rely on people using common sense.

yeah the blue flags was a pain - there were times when all i could do was follow cause if i overtook i'd only have to let back pass and then there were guys behind me who if they didnt get blues i would have just let go

yea that was bad.. but i was lucky.. some1 went off in front :P

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

I wondered why people were diving out of my way as soon as i let them back past... :/ that does kinda suck really so we'll have to scrap the stop gos next time

I'd be up for another race sometime - perhaps make it 4.8 hours this time with a 5x time scale?

yea :D

the 2 and a half hours wasnt so bad actually..

i look forward to another race :D

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

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yeah well after my second or third stop - i could only manage 15 lap stints i was a minute behind and a minute ahead so didnt really have anything to drive for until i got lapped and had something to chase

:O well i planned for full 29 lap stints but each time i think i could only manage 24 laps.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

I did a shorter first stint of 25 to close the Gap on Gav because we were all losing so much time on the old tyres, then middle stint was the max I could run (think 29 or 30)