iPad 2
Posted by MikaHalpinen
Use of any non-Windows tablet in any half decent school is going to be limited to internet access only, and that's only if you've got a particularly understanding and casual network admin... and that's coming from a school network admin. 
gav Wrote:
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> Use of any non-Windows tablet in any half decent
> school is going to be limited to internet access
> only, and that's only if you've got a particularly
> understanding and casual network admin... and
> that's coming from a school network admin.
I lied slightly - I'll actually be using it in Sixth Form, but as it's our school Sixth Form, it will still feel like school :p
In Sixth Form, we get access to the school WiFi, and I can play games n stuff when I'm not in lessons...so yeah, it should all be good...
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> Use of any non-Windows tablet in any half decent
> school is going to be limited to internet access
> only, and that's only if you've got a particularly
> understanding and casual network admin... and
> that's coming from a school network admin.
I lied slightly - I'll actually be using it in Sixth Form, but as it's our school Sixth Form, it will still feel like school :p
In Sixth Form, we get access to the school WiFi, and I can play games n stuff when I'm not in lessons...so yeah, it should all be good...
Order a giffgaff SIM from my link and get £5 credit, free!
Season 1 and Season 3 GPGSL World Champion!
Member of CTDP - Cars Tracks Development Program - 3D Carshaper
i really have no idea why you would prefer a tablet as opposed to a cheap laptop (er yer i don't know what the difference is between notebooks, netbooks and all that it just seems pointless confusing categorisation to me).
£500? That is shedloads! you can buy a good desktop for that? and i imagine a good laptop? Mind you i haven't exactly looked, but even years ago, the original eee pc was less than £150 or something if i remember.
Yes, having a touchscreen is good but i think you can get laptops with those? Or are they expensive? Hopefully companies will incorporate them into laptops more often. It would be nice if they made ones that would work with actual pressure sensitive pens, that would be ideal. i think you can get this already but again, it's cost.
I don't get how you say that a tablet will run better than a laptop of that price. £500 is a lot and i'm pretty sure you can get laptops that will run windows 7 well for that unless it's really quite bad.
If you can't then from what you've said you want from it there is always linux which will probably run a whole lot faster and better than your tablet ever could on the same hardware anyway. And for small versions of linux you could even get puppy or something like that depending on what you want to do, and that seems really fast (though i still wouldn't choose it unless my hardware was @#$%& cos the interface looks a bit errr not to my tastes haha).
But honestly, android runs on top of linux so i don't get how you can magically think that an android tablet will be faster than a laptop can be for the same price - particularly considering that a tablet has to squeeze it all into a much smaller package. You can even install android on your laptop apparently if you really wanted to (so i've heard) - but i don't really get why you'd want to as it would be more restrictive than a normal os.
I dunno, i can see why these are good for phones but i really don't get the appeal of tablets.
Touchscreens and all these sensors are things that should be incorporated into normal laptops to extend functionality, not put effort into making bigger, restrictive dumb 'phones' which is what these tablets essentially are.
Also i have no idea how you plan to do development on an actual tablet. I assume you can plug a keyboard into it or that is going to be "fun". I have been pleasantly impressed with the typing on my zte blade's onscreen keyboard but it still doesn't replace a real keyboard at all.
And i haven't looked but can you even get good development tools for android anyway? I mean i know you can use just a text editor but once you've gone beyond using that it really isn't the most fun. Can't see many people developing directly on a tablet.
Unless you just meant for testing, which would make all of this moot.
In summary, i really don't get it.
H E L L O
£500? That is shedloads! you can buy a good desktop for that? and i imagine a good laptop? Mind you i haven't exactly looked, but even years ago, the original eee pc was less than £150 or something if i remember.
Yes, having a touchscreen is good but i think you can get laptops with those? Or are they expensive? Hopefully companies will incorporate them into laptops more often. It would be nice if they made ones that would work with actual pressure sensitive pens, that would be ideal. i think you can get this already but again, it's cost.
I don't get how you say that a tablet will run better than a laptop of that price. £500 is a lot and i'm pretty sure you can get laptops that will run windows 7 well for that unless it's really quite bad.
If you can't then from what you've said you want from it there is always linux which will probably run a whole lot faster and better than your tablet ever could on the same hardware anyway. And for small versions of linux you could even get puppy or something like that depending on what you want to do, and that seems really fast (though i still wouldn't choose it unless my hardware was @#$%& cos the interface looks a bit errr not to my tastes haha).
But honestly, android runs on top of linux so i don't get how you can magically think that an android tablet will be faster than a laptop can be for the same price - particularly considering that a tablet has to squeeze it all into a much smaller package. You can even install android on your laptop apparently if you really wanted to (so i've heard) - but i don't really get why you'd want to as it would be more restrictive than a normal os.
I dunno, i can see why these are good for phones but i really don't get the appeal of tablets.
Touchscreens and all these sensors are things that should be incorporated into normal laptops to extend functionality, not put effort into making bigger, restrictive dumb 'phones' which is what these tablets essentially are.
Also i have no idea how you plan to do development on an actual tablet. I assume you can plug a keyboard into it or that is going to be "fun". I have been pleasantly impressed with the typing on my zte blade's onscreen keyboard but it still doesn't replace a real keyboard at all.
And i haven't looked but can you even get good development tools for android anyway? I mean i know you can use just a text editor but once you've gone beyond using that it really isn't the most fun. Can't see many people developing directly on a tablet.
Unless you just meant for testing, which would make all of this moot.
In summary, i really don't get it.
H E L L O The only way I can see a touchscreen being beneficial is on a phone, over having old-school keys(like I still have on my current phone, which dates back to 2008). In that situation the touchscreen is a huge help. In any other situation, with a computer, I'm very happy using a conventional keyboard and even think it's better than a touchscreen - much cheaper, and it's more difficult to accidentally click/press the wrong thing on the screen.
Regarding the iPad, the more I read about it, the more I absolutely hate it and fail to get why anybody is buying it. I have liked the iPhone for a while, and I would've got one before now if it wasn't for the very expensive price of them too. But as pointed out already, this thing is bigger and heavier(and more expensive) than the iPhone and it does less. It should be the marketing definition of a fail, and yet people are buying it... Why?!
Even with this iPad 2, they've added cameras(Woohoo!) and made it a bit smaller and lighter, but not much else. And the storage capacity, even on the highest currently available version, is only 64GB, which seems ridiculously small. So yeah, it's less crap than the original was IMO, rather than better.
If I wanted a frisbee I'd be spending a lot less on it than this costs.
Regarding the iPad, the more I read about it, the more I absolutely hate it and fail to get why anybody is buying it. I have liked the iPhone for a while, and I would've got one before now if it wasn't for the very expensive price of them too. But as pointed out already, this thing is bigger and heavier(and more expensive) than the iPhone and it does less. It should be the marketing definition of a fail, and yet people are buying it... Why?!
Even with this iPad 2, they've added cameras(Woohoo!) and made it a bit smaller and lighter, but not much else. And the storage capacity, even on the highest currently available version, is only 64GB, which seems ridiculously small. So yeah, it's less crap than the original was IMO, rather than better.
If I wanted a frisbee I'd be spending a lot less on it than this costs.
The Xoom has the same base processor as the iPad 2, the ARM A9, though with a different (and rather lacklustre) GPU, but yeah, that's pretty @#$%&.
Hopefully it's just the Motorola implementation or the early version of Honeycomb, and they can sell at such a high price as rival manufacturers are still readying their Android devices. Google have proven they're capable of accelerating development at a frightening pace when they want to (just look at Chromium and the speed increases pushed into that over the past year), so hopefully for the good of the market the playing field will level out.
Not that it bothers me - I still don't have any desire to buy a tablet.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2011 09:16PM by gav.
Hopefully it's just the Motorola implementation or the early version of Honeycomb, and they can sell at such a high price as rival manufacturers are still readying their Android devices. Google have proven they're capable of accelerating development at a frightening pace when they want to (just look at Chromium and the speed increases pushed into that over the past year), so hopefully for the good of the market the playing field will level out.
Not that it bothers me - I still don't have any desire to buy a tablet.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2011 09:16PM by gav.
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