Social Experiment : Online Dating

Posted by Locke Cole 
Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 14, 2010 03:27PM
Posted by: Morbid
The conversion rate, from the initial response, to actual sex, is the truth telling marker on your endeavors - and yes all romantic relationships are consummated by sex. Otherwise it is not a relationship, it is a friendship or a failed attempt at establishing a romantic relationship.

However, the process from initial response to actual sex, as long as the site lets you communicate unhindered, has nothing to do with the sites services. All they provide is the marketplace, some measure of transparency in selection (hopefully), and the tools for the initial communication. The rest is all about YOUR method of operation - which I might add, with most people the MO sux, and can be considerably improved.

So, from there, the investigation is over. Perhaps it is time for a new one?



It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2010 03:29PM by Morbid.
Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 14, 2010 05:16PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
I'm not done with the legal side yet. ;) Gonna speak to a few people, amongst them a former teacher of mine who trained as a solicitor, about the issues I've flagged up. I'm also not done with the experiment yet. I've only contacted approx. 100 people for starters - hardly a conclusive sample. Plus I'm not drawing a line under any of my communications thus far. it ain't done yet.

But for now, it's (hopefully) intriguing to read about the progress that has been made. Morbid, I know you are a keen advocate of the "effective" methodology for seducing women. This study, if anything, supports your ideas. It wouldn't do your ideas justice to end its testing now, with so little supporting evidence. ;)



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Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 14, 2010 07:27PM
Posted by: Morbid
Well I am not so much into seduction. It has this connotation of getting innocent women to do things they otherwise would not do. I don't believe in tricking women, and I don't believe there are any innocent women either. You probably would not believe it, but girls want men far more, than we want them. Anyway, I am much more into attraction.

I believe that men are very visual and are attracted mainly to physical features that signal fertility. For us, it is automatic, and pretty much uncontrollable. It is like spotting a well-cooked steak. We automatically begin to drool in anticipation of... well eating it. The same parallel (the drooling) has been made many times with men and attractive women. We just do it, and just can't help it.

I believe that women work EXACTLY the same way. They are not as attracted to physical features in the same way men are. Sure, they will go for the good looking guy or the wealthy guy, if there is nothing better to choose from. But there is something better to chose from, and it is much more rare, than physical beauty. I see hot women almost every day, but don't see men that have their act together, all that often. A couple of times a year, tops. I really do believe that many women settle, because deep down inside, what they really want are character traits.

There are many of these traits, and different configurations create different types of men. I won't list them here, but confidence is one such trait. Try to display almost pathological overconfidence around women, and you will see that they react in much the same men do, when they spot big boobs. They just act weird around you, do excessive things to be around you, challenge the authenticity of your confidence, question the source of it, create drama where you can display it, and in general just mentally ogle, fondle and grope it.

So there are two ways you can approach this. Either you can fake those traits that create attraction in women (the quicker, easier way - i.e. the dark side, also called seduction, because it really is trickery in the same sense makeup and push-up bras are), or you can turn to character development, so you become one of those guys that automatically turn women on, without even trying. This is harder, and takes a lot more work, but once you have it up and running, it is like riding a bicycle.

And you know with yourself, that you are the real deal ;-)



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Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 14, 2010 07:45PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
Save yourself the effort of copying & pasting, just post the link to the online book you nicked that from. ;) lol - I know they exist, and I'm pretty sure you're reading one and reeling off this acquired "knowledge".



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Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 14, 2010 08:14PM
Posted by: Morbid
I typed up all this up myself, but I won't lie and say that I have not researched a lot on the subject. I have...

I have plowed through god knows how many pages, and gigabytes of audio and video material, and tried all kinds of crazy things. There are a lot people out there, that say they can help you. The most popular and those that gather the most publicity are definitely not the best. Quite a lot push product that doesn't work, and many sell theories they have stolen from other people, but cannot implement themselves. Ironically, if you know where to look, you can find all the material you need for free, without doing any copyright infringement.

"Book of Pook" would be one of them. His system can basically be reduced to one sentence: "Up your testosterone level (no doping) and everything else will sort itself out over time". And it does work surprisingly well! Another of my favorites, and this one charges money, has only two rules and his system revolves around being honest, trust and respect. A third of my favorites wrote a book about being honest and let the women know what you're really thinking. He runs a free internet radio show too.

There are at least two very good blogs out there too, and that is also free material. However, they are quite cynical and are rock hard realists in their presentation, so I am hesitant to point to them. The romantics tend to blow a fuse and react with a frenzy of nerd rage when they read them.

But in any case, reading/hearing/seeing this stuff is only 10%. It is like judo or learning to speak foreign language. If you don't practice and spar, you won't be up to snuff. So 90% of the work will be done, with real live interactions with women.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2010 08:17PM by Morbid.
Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 17, 2010 06:22PM
Posted by: Gigi4
Morbid Wrote:
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> For us, it is automatic, and pretty
> much uncontrollable. It is like spotting a
> well-cooked steak. We automatically begin to drool
> in anticipation of... well eating it

My phisic teacher usually says: " Men have only 1 neuron: if it is used to operate "that thing between your legs" (don't want to be too explicit, there are underage people on this forum, aren't they? ;)) it can't be used to operate brain at the same time"







Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 18, 2010 12:19AM
Posted by: EC83
Morbid, I have to say your posts here are very insightful, and make great reading. That character development thing sounds very interesting, and it sounds like you understand women much better than most of us.
Thanks for sharing!



Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 18, 2010 12:41AM
Posted by: Morbid
You are welcome :-)



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Re: Social Experiment : Online Dating
Date: February 20, 2010 10:02PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
I've sent out a load of different e-mails tonight. I'm enjoying this actually, it's fascinating seeing what things are responded to. :)

I spoke to someone today who alerted me to the existence of a Facebook page entitled "Too nice to be single" which basically operates as a free dating service. I urge people to join up and experiment. I might even join myself.



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