Windows 7

They should rename this. If you count all the windows releases, it should be Windows 8. But I like this better. "Windows Vista the revenge. This time it's personal." Or "Windows Vista First Blood, part 2" Or even "Windows Vista 2, the search for more money."

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mortal Wrote:
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> They should rename this. If you count all the
> windows releases, it should be Windows 8. But I
> like this better. "Windows Vista the revenge. This
> time it's personal." Or "Windows Vista First
> Blood, part 2" Or even "Windows Vista 2, the
> search for more money."

That's the ticket. No new releases, no new cashflows. Who cares if the potential of the old OS is far from exhausted? Who cares if there is even a need for a new OS? Who cares if the new OS even works better than the old one? Just load it and bloat it with all sorts of extra twinkly and shiny new features, and the public will marvel over it like so many ravens...

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Morbid Wrote:
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> mortal Wrote:
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> > They should rename this. If you count all the
> > windows releases, it should be Windows 8. But I
> > like this better. "Windows Vista the revenge.
> This
> > time it's personal." Or "Windows Vista First
> > Blood, part 2" Or even "Windows Vista 2, the
> > search for more money."
>
> That's the ticket. No new releases, no new
> cashflows. Who cares if the potential of the old
> OS is far from exhausted? Who cares if there is
> even a need for a new OS? Who cares if the new OS
> even works better than the old one? Just load it
> and bloat it with all sorts of extra twinkly and
> shiny new features, and the public will marvel
> over it like so many ravens...


I thought that was Vista?!

Perhaps this should be "Windows done right".

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Windows will never be done right. If they do, there won't be a need for more updates and new releases, which means no new sales... They need to sell it with imperfections, so you have a need for a new OS later down the line.

It is an essential part of the design, marketing and sales strategy of the modern capitalist mogul. What's even worse is the people that identity with the new releases, as it had something important to say about who they are as people or how they live their lives.

As Tyler Durden puts it in Fight Club, while he and Jack are drinking beer, after Jack's apartment has been bombed:

Tyler: Do you know what a ‘duvet’ is?

Jack: A comforter.

Tyler:
It’s a blanket.
Just a blanket. Why do guys
like you and I know what a ‘duvet’ is?
Is this essential to our survival
in the hunter-gatherer sense of the word?
No.
What are we, then?

Jack: I don’t know. Consumers.

Tyler:
Right. We’re consumers.
We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession.
“Murder, crime, poverty.
These things don’t concern me.
What concerns me are celebrity magazines,
television with 500 channels,
some guy’s name on my underwear. Rogaine.
Viagra. Olestra…”

Jack: Martha Stewart.

Tyler:
@#$%& Martha Stewart.
She’s polishing the brass on the Titanic.
It’s all going down.
So @#$%& off with your sofa units
and Strinne green stripe patterns.
I say never be complete.
I say stop being perfect.
I say let’s evolve.
Let the chips fall where they may.
But that’s me, and I could be wrong.
Maybe it’s a terrible tragedy.

Jack: It’s just stuff. Not a tragedy…

Tyler: You did lose a lot of versatile solutions
for modern living.

Jack:
@#$%&, you’re right.
I don’t smoke.
My insurance is probably gonna cover it, so…
What?

Tyler:
The things you own, end up owning you.
Do what you like, man.

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It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.

Regardless of how you feel about capitalist society and posessions, Windows 7 is here to stay for a while. And it's good. Sure, it's not perfect - which OS is? - but it's a great step in the right direction for Microsoft. I hope the world actually embraces this one, unlike what everyone did with Vista. Which is still a good OS.

Vista might be a good OS (I think it is has been patched sufficiently to be worth considering, after all you guys have beta-tested it for me!), but was there ever actually a real NEED for it? I think not. What was so essiential for my life, and many others for that sake, that Vista was something that had be installed, which we could not accomplished with XP?

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mortal Wrote:
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> They should rename this. If you count all the
> windows releases, it should be Windows 8.

If it's given a number technically, it should be Windows 6, but that wouldn't be a good commercial decision. MS are a company which has a legal obligation to make money for their shareholders, after all.

Major releases:

Windows 1.01
Windows 2.03
Windows 2.11
Windows 3.0
Windows 3.1
Windows 95 (4.0.950)
Windows 98 (4.10.1998)
Windows ME (4.90.3000)
Windows 2000 (NT 5.0.2195)
Windows XP (NT 5.1.2600)
Windows Vista (NT 6.0.6001)

Windows 7 is just what '98 was to '95 - an incremental refinement which builds on what made Vista good. That it also covers a lot of what XP is currently about can only be a good thing.

I'm seriously looking at rolling this out at work upon release if I can secure the budget. Server 2008 (which I've just tested as we only have an MSDN license) with Vista is a seriously powerful combination, but Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7 is looking very tasty, as we could use it on even the old PCs and netbooks.

what about poor Windows 3.11 =D



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It was just an evolution of 3.1, like Win98SE or the 2 updated versions of the original Win95 which were available.

.... do not put down Windows 3.11 =D
I still have the floppy disks!



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Put it on a partition, oh the memories lol

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Does anyone still remember Windows RG? That was my favourite edition.

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Morbid Wrote:
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> Vista might be a good OS (I think it is has been
> patched sufficiently to be worth considering,
> after all you guys have beta-tested it for me!),
> but was there ever actually a real NEED for it? I
> think not. What was so essiential for my life, and
> many others for that sake, that Vista was
> something that had be installed, which we could
> not accomplished with XP?


I really don't think we were beta-testing Vista anymore than any other application or operating system has early problems. Vista was never as bad as the fanboy tech blogs and bad press made it out to be. It ran better than XP, it ran more stable than XP, and it was easier to use than XP. Half the reason it got torn apart was because companies like Creative made drivers in a very 'arse from elbow not knowing' kind of way.

For me, the reason Vista had to be installed (and this only became clear after installing it) was XP can't cope with Photoshop CS3 and 3D Studio Max 8 at the same time, if you are using them extensively. After an hour or so of those being open, it is reboot time in XP, even on fresh installs of XP. But in Vista, its seamless. Vista copes with it so well that I'm beginning to get to the limits of what Photoshop CS3 can handle, long before I'm stressing XP - a first for me since using graphics apps since the days of Windows 95.

All of the money-making and business decisions aside (tbh I don't really care about those - I use what version of Windows suits me best, and I don't think I've paid for a MS OS yet), Vista was, and still is, a fantastic operating system that suffered from bad press.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2009 07:51AM by DaveEllis.

More on the money making side. People with any real knowledge won't buy Windows 7 unless they know what it's about, and know it will bring them something they want. Most of us only moved to Vista when they upgraded machines anyway, so their license was invalid (most buy OEM licenses, let's face it) - it'll likely be more of the same with 7.

I expect most companies who missed Vista (which is the vast majority) to move to it if they are able to (probably a few months after they've completed testing, so around what is normally SP1 time). It will replace Vista on the new machines and laptops that Average Joe buys, so it won't end up costing them more anyway.

The only people who do buy Windows 7 outright will be us techies who've seen it, likely tried it, know what it will bring and have decided that it brings enough. Probably not all that many of us really. It's going to be the OEM sector where the money lies. That's not changed since... well ever. They'll put the latest Microsoft OS on there, just like they always have.

W7 looks fantastic, but it is just an evolution of the base - like 95 to 98 and XP to 2000. It doesn't bring anything new to the table - it just refines a fairly new platform.

Well i got bored of waiting for another hard drive so i have backed up my data and made a new partition instead

Got to say Windows 7 seem's fantastic, even in beta stage

It is a bit faster for me but Vista alway's ran very fast for me too (I don't understand the whole Vista bashing saga tbh).

Seem's very stable aswell considering it's in beta stage.

Only thing is they have robbed me of the classic startbar! (Send's feedback )

I can't see any reason so far why i won't upgrade to it when it's released

Does anybody know if it's possible to persuade win7 that the graphic card is good enough to run everything? I'm testing the beta in VMware and as far as I know there's no possibility to use Nvidia graphic drivers, because VMware has it's own generic drivers. I've tried to get forceware to work, but then win7 don't recognize that graphic card is connected.

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SpaceAce Wrote:
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> .... do not put down Windows 3.11 =D
> I still have the floppy disks!


Me too!! And funnily enough, it runs fine in a PlayStation Portable! hahahaha

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Installed Windows 7 and everything works fine! All my games work 100% fine, sound works, network works. Excellent